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MSM8974/MSM8926 DSDS/DSDA RF Software
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Contents
 MSM8974/MSM8926 Platform Information

 DSDS/DSDA Overview
 LTE+GSM DSDA
 Opportunistic SxLTE+G DSDA
 Priority Scheme for Subscription Activities
 SAR Management
 RF Coexistence Management
 References
 Questions?
MSM8974/MSM8926 Platform
Information
MSM8974/MSM8926 Platform Information
 Understand the differences between MSM8974/MSM8926 and MSM8x26.
MSM8974/MSM8926 MSM8x26
Family members  MSM8974  MSM8626
 MSM8974 Pro  MSM8526
 MSM8926  MSM8226
 MSM8126
Key feature  Integrated Dual SIM Dual Standby  Integrated DSDS/DSDA
(DSDS)/Dual SIM Dual Active (DSDA)  No LTE
 Supports LTE (Carrier Aggregation (CA))
MSM8974/MSM8926 DSDA Roadmap
MPSS MSM8974 MSM8926 Requirements summary

MPSS.DI.3.0 MSM8974.LA.3.0 MSM8926.LA.2.0 March CS for DimePlus only
 DSDS for DimePlus (L/W/G+G, T/G+G, C+G)
 DSDA for DimePlus (W/G+G, C+G)
April CS for DimePlus only
 Opportunistic SGLTE/SGTDS with DSDA L/T/G+G
 Opportunistic SVLTE with DSDA C+G
 DSDS for DimePlus (L/T/G+G)
 DSDA for DimePlus (T/G+G)
 TSTS W/G+G+G
MPSS.DI.4.0 MSM8974.LA.4.0  gSRLTE
 1xSRLTE
 1xSRLTE+G DSDS
 TSTS L/W/G+G
MSM8974/MSM8926 SGLTE and DSDA
 All relevant RAT combinations are supported for DSDA

 L/W/G+G
 L/C/G+G
 L/TDS/G+G
GPS RF W/T/C/L RF G RF
Front End Front End Front End
WTR1605/
WTR2100
WTR1625L
MSM8926
MSM8926 DSDS/DSDA Band Configuration
 MSM8926 supports LTE/WCDMA/GSM/TDSCDMA/CDMA

 MSM8x26 supports WCDMA/GSM/TDSCDMA/CDMA
Primary chain Secondary chain
Mode
LTE (FDD) WCDMA CDMA TD-SCDMA LTE (TDD) GSM 3G GSM
MSM8x26 Global B1, B2, B5, BC0, BC1 Quad Quad

DSDA B8
MSM8x26 Global B1, B2, B5, BC0, BC1 Quad DRx
nonDSDA B8 B1, B2/BC0,
B5/BC1, B8
MSM8x26 B1 B34, B39, Quad Quad
TD-SCDMA DSDA B40
MSM8x26 B1 B34, B39, Quad
TD-SCDMA B40
nonDSDA
MSM8926 TD-LTE B1, B5 B34, B39, B39, B40, Quad Quad
DSDA B40, B41 B41
MSM8926 ATT-CA B1, B2, B4, B1, B2, B3, B40 B40 Quad CA
B5, B8, B5, B8 B2-B17, B4-
B12, B14, B17, B4-5,
B17, B25, B2-FLO,
B26 B4-FLO
MSM8926 EU-CA B1, B3, B7, B1, B2, B3, B38 Quad CA
B8, B20 B5, B8 B20-B3,
B20-B7
MSM8926 Verizon B3, B4, B7, B1, B2, B5, Quad SV
SV/CA B13, B20 B8 BC0, BC1
DSDS/DSDA Overview
High-Level Block Diagram for DSDS
RFFE
GPS
WTR1605L
LTE/TDS/W/G
LTE/TDS/W/G PRx
LTE/TDS/W/G Tx
Tx0 RX0 LTE/TDS/W DRx

Rx1 Tx1 Rx2
LTE LTE none none
LTE
TDS TDS
TDS
W W
W
G G
MSM8926
LTE/TDS/W/G/GPS
SIM1 SIM2
Overview for DSDS
 Chipset platform
 MSM8974/MSM8926 (FDD-LTE/TD-LTE, W, TDS, G capable))
 WTR1605L
 DSDS
 Two independent subscriptions
 When one subscription is on voice call the other is suspended
 When one subscription is on data call, the other subscriptions can operate in
Idle state by TuneAway
 Radio resources are shared in time. TRM is used to arbitrate on which RAT gets
the radio
 Combinations requested
 TD-LTE/TD-SCDMA/G+G
 TD-LTE/W/G+G
 FDD-LTE/W/G+G
LTE/W/G Associated with SIM1 and G with SIM2
DSDS state (SIM1 + SIM2) Rx0 Rx1 Tx0 Comment

L Idle Wake + G Sleep L L None
L Idle Wake + G Idle Wake G/L None/L None G/L collision arbitrator makes
decision
L Idle Wake + G Access G None G L is Suspended
L Idle Wake + G Voice G None G L is Suspended
L Access + G Sleep L L L
L Access + G Idle Wake G/L None/L None/L Delay L Access until G is done
L Access + G Access G/L None/L G/L First come first served. If L Access
is first, G Access starts when L is
connected unless voice call
L Access + G Voice G None G LTE Access not possible
L Connected + G Sleep L L L
L Connected + G Idle Wake G/L None/L None/L Suspend LTE during G Idle
L Connected + G Access G/L None/L G/L Suspend LTE during G Idle
L Connected + G Voice G None G LTE connected not possible
Suspended
DSDA High-Level Architecture
RFFE
GPS
WTR2650 WTR1605L
GSM LTE/TDS/W/G
LTE/TDS/W/G DRx
LTE/TDS/W/G PRx
LTE/TDS/W Tx
GSM PRx
GSM Tx
Tx0 Rx0 Tx1 RX1 Rx2

LTE LTE
G LTE
G TDS
TDS TDS
MSM8974/MDM9x25 W W
W
G
LTE/TDS/W/G/GPS G
SIM1 SIM2
Overview for DSDA
 Chipset platform
 MSM8974/MSM8926 (FDD-LTE/TD-LTE, W, TDS, G capable)
 WTR1605L, WTR2605
 Dual SIM Dual Talk (DSDT)
 Two independent subscription
 Call hold and call waiting support across subscriptions
 Simultaneous data support – One data session per subscription
 Simultaneous voice and data support across two subscriptions
 Combinations requested
 TD-LTE/TD-SCDMA/G+G
 TD-LTE/W/G+G
 FDD-LTE/W/G+G
High-Level DSDA Requirements
 Voice call requirements

 The DSDA device shall be able to display incoming call information on one
subscription irrespective of the state of the other subscription.
 The DSDA device shall be able to perform call waiting and call hold function
across subscriptions.
 The DSDA device shall be able to receive or make voice calls on both
subscriptions but have only one voice call in conversation state at a time. The
other voice call(s) could be in Waiting/Local Hold/Hold state.
 3-way conferencing across subscriptions is not required.
 Data call requirements
 The DSDA device should support dual simultaneous active PS session, one per
subscription.
 The DSDA device should support simultaneous data calls on the subscriptions.
 The DSDA device should support MMS on both subscriptions.
LTE+GSM DSDA
LTE+GSM DSDA Coexistence
 Solve the RF coexistence issue of L+G DSDA
- DSDA L+G analysis, Udara Fernando, June 10, 2013
 Interference caused by proximity of two RF chains and RF nonlinearity

 PA thermal noise (RxBN), inter-modulation distortion (IM), harmonics, blocking, etc.
 Up to several 10’s dB
 → Receiver performance degradation and emission failure
 Example
 CMCC (GSM – 20M at 900M, 25M at 1.8G TDD-LTE – (likely) 20M at 1.9G
 PA RxBN noise, 37 dB above thermal noise (without notch filter)
 CU (GSM – 6M at 900M, 20M at 1.8G FDD-LTE – 30M at 1.8G)
 IM3 interference, 40 dB above thermal noise, plus PA RxBN
LTE+GSM DSDA Coexistence
 Software solutions
 CxM provides the interference timing and threshold information
 Rx blanking – Skipping or freezing DL operations → Mitigate interference
propagation from aggressor
 Tx blanking – Skipping or freezing UL operations → Avoid interference to victim
Blanking1
Band Baseband
Issues
L Rx blanking L Tx blanking L Tx blanking avoidance2 IC3
while G is transmitting while G is transmitting while G is receiving
RxBN   4
IM   
Harmonics    
Blocking    
Reciprocal
  
mixing
Emission  
1Interfered data samples cannot be recovered
2Usage is restricted by the RF spectrum availability
3Usage is limited by the interference power level
4RxBN can be reduced but cannot be fully eliminated
LTE DSDA RF Card Band Configurations
SIM1 (WTR1605L) SIM2

Region/
DSDA mode CDMA Priority
GSM WCDMA LTE (FDD) TD-SCDMA LTE (TDD) GSM operators
(BC)
W/G/L + G G900, G1800 B1, 2r, 5r, 8 1TDD/FDD – TBD, 40 G900, G1800 2 (India); China
LTE CT-LTE plans Unicom, India,
Roaming - TBD TBD APAC
W/G/L + G G900, G1800, 1,5 43 , 7 G900, G1800, 3 Brazil, SEA
G850 G850
W/G/L + G G850, G1900, 2, 5 4, 7 41TBD G850, G1900, 3 Rest of
G900 G900 LATAM
W/G/L + G G900, G1800 1, 8 1, 3, 7, 8, 201 G900, G1800 3 EU (mostly
Eastern
Europe)
C/G/L + G QBGSM2 BC0, 1 4, 7 QBGSM 4 South
Americas
C/G/L + G G900, G1800 BC0, 1 40, 41 G900, G1800 2 (India); China
CT-LTE plans Telecom,
TBD India
TSD/L/G + G G900, G1800 1r, 2r, 5r, 8r 1r, 3r, 7, 17r 34, 39, 40 38, 39, 40, 41 G900, G1800 1 China Mobile
(SGLTE may
be needed)
1. B20 is an addition to cover EU operators.
2. Devices require QBGSM. Tier-1 OEMs going to this market would require QBGSM + QBGSM.
3. B4 is an addition to cover AWS LTE operators in South America.
4. BC10- CT holds this spectrum and has tentative plans to deploy either C2k or FDD LTE on this spectrum.
– 20 –
Opportunistic SxLTE+G DSDA
Opportunistic SGLTE+G DSDA
 MSM8926 and MSM8974Pro, MSM8974 chipsets support SGLTE using

two transceivers WTR1605L/WTR1625 and WTR2605/WTR2100 for
single SIM functionality.
 Opportunistic SGLTE+G DSDA (dual SIM and dual active) uses the same
hardware (two transceivers) to support DSDA functionality with the
additional SIM supporting G functionality.
 The additional G functionality is shared with L and T PS domain
functionality of the multimode SIM on the same transceiver
WTR1605L/1625. The UE has to selectively enable DSDS on G (of the
multimode SIM) + G (of the G-only SIM) or L/T (of the multimode SIM) + G
(of the G-only SIM) depending on the UE state on each RAT. This makes
SGLTE+G DSDA opportunistic.
Opportunistic SGLTE+G DSDA Hardware Architecture
 The hardware required for

opportunistic SGLTE+G DSDA is
GPS
the same as SGLTE including
WTR16x5L WTR2100/WTR2605
 L+G hardware coexistence solution L/T/W/G/GPS G
 T+G hardware coexistence solution

 Additional hardware required to
support G on the WTR16x5L RF Tx1 Rx2
Tx0 Rx0 Rx1
chain. LTE
TDS
LTE
TDS
LTE
TDS
G G
W W W
 In summary: G G G
 The UE shall support a multimode MSM8974PRO/MSM8926

RF device and a G-only single L/T/W/G/GPS+G
mode RF device.
 The multimode RF device shall
support full L, W, T, and G operation. SIM1 SIM2
 The single mode RF device shall
support full G operation.
Primary Subscription Secondary Subscription
Opportunistic SGLTE+G DSDA Operation Description
 The opportunistic SGLTE+G DSDA UE supports a combination of two

subscriptions – One multimode subscription and a GSM only (G-only)
subscription.
 In this document, SIM1 refers to the multimode subscription and SIM2 to
the G-only subscription.
 SIM1 (the multimode subscription) of the opportunistic SGLTE+G DSDA
UE operates in the SGLTE mode. SIM2 (the G-only subscription) of the
opportunistic SGLTE+G DSDA UE operates in the GSM only mode.
Opportunistic SVLTE in C+G DSDA Hardware Architecture
 This hardware architecture has the

following impact:
 EV-DO measurements for LTE→EV-DO
RFFE
will take place on a WTR that is different GPS
from that for LTE WTR1605L/

WTR2605
WTR1625
 LTE measurements for EV-DO→LTE 1x/DO/GSM
LTW/W/GSM
cell reselection will take place on a
LTE/W/G PRx
LTE/W DRx
LTE/W/G Tx
1xDO/GSM
1XDO/GSM Tx
WTR that is different from that for
EV-DO
Tx0 Rx0
 LTE→EV-DO connected or idle 1x
DO
1x
DO
Tx0
LTE
Rx0
LTE
Rx1
LTE
TDS TDS TDS
measurements cannot take place when G G
W W W
G G G
1X is awake
 LTE→EV-DO IRAT cannot take place MSM8974AB/MSM8926/MSM8962
when 1X is awake
 1X and EV-DO will operate in hybrid
mode when UE is out of LTE coverage SIM2 SIM1
and in EV-DO coverage
Opportunistic SVLTE in C+G DSDA Operation Descriptions
 For a UE that is configured with SIM1 operating with multimode modem

and SIM2 operating in GSM only mode, it shall operate in opportunistic
SVLTE (simultaneous 1X and LTE) mode spanning the two WTR’s when
camped on LTE, and hybrid 1xEV-DO mode on WTR2605 when camped
on EV-DO. Current design does not include MRD for 1X/DO.
 LTE in opportunistic SVLTE pertains to LTE from SIM1 and GSM from
SIM2 operates in L+G DSDS on WTR1605L/WTR1625.
 The UE operates in SVLTE mode opportunistically when GSM from SIM2
is sleeping or when GSM is preempted to accommodate LTE.
 The UE operates in C+G DSDA mode when LTE from SIM1 is sleeping or
when LTE is preempted to accommodate GSM.
 The descriptions above are based on a mandate that SIM1/multimode
SIM shall be the Dedicated Data Subscription (DDS), and the UE shall
disable support for data on SIM2 in all non-roaming scenarios other than
for the purpose of sending/receiving MMS on SIM2. When SIM2 is
sending/receiving MMS, the UE shall be configured as SIM1 1X
(CS)+SIM2 G (CS, PS) DSDA.
Priority Scheme for Subscription
Activities
Priority Scheme for Subscription Activities
 Priority Scheme is needed to identify and prioritize activities such as

voice, data, etc., of each subscription in the following perspectives:
 Dynamic Tx power backoff for SAR compliance in simultaneous Tx modes
 Coexistence desense mitigation
 Battery current limiting in G+G
 MIPS throttling
Priority Scheme for Subscription Activities – Properties
 The five possible states of a subscription arranged in descending

order/priorities are:
 Voice – High priority
 Originations for voice
 Voice call user is conversing on
 Only one voice call
 Data or no data is irrelevant
 Voice – Low priority
 Voice call in psuedo-hold; i.e., the call that the user is not conversing on
 Requires the presence of a call with priority = Voice – High Priority
 Data or no data is irrelevant
 Mobile Terminated (MT) voice call signaling
 Page response for incoming voice call, i.e., Tx operations for a call before it is answered by
the user
 Baseline
 Registrations for voice/data without HLOS being aware of them
 In idle and Tx is OFF
 Unknown
 Data only
 Originations for data
 Data call in Active/Connected/Traffic states
 Assuming data is best-effort data
Priority Scheme for Subscription Activities – Tiebreakers
 When both subscriptions are performing similar activity, e.g., Voice +

Voice or Data + Data), tiebreakers will be used.
 Default Voice Subscription will be overloaded to use as a tiebreaker for Voice +
Voice scenario
 Dedicated Data Subscription will be overloaded to use as a tiebreaker for Data
+ Data scenario
 Priority Subscription will be overloaded to use as a tiebreaker for Baseline +
Baseline scenario
Priority Scheme for Subscription Activities – Summary
Scenario Sub1 Sub2 Expected result

1 Voice High Priority Voice High Priority Default Voice Subscription Wins
2 Voice High Priority Voice Low Priority Sub1 > Sub2
3 Voice High Priority MT Call Signaling Sub1 > SUB21
4 Voice High Priority Baseline Sub1 > Sub2
5 Voice High Priority Data Only Sub1 > Sub2
6 Voice Low Priority Voice High Priority Sub2 > Sub1
7 Voice Low Priority Voice Low Priority Priority Subscription Wins
8 Voice Low Priority MT Call Signaling Priority Subscription Wins
9 Voice Low Priority Baseline Priority Subscription Wins
10 Voice Low Priority Data Only Priority Subscription Wins
11 MT Call Signaling Voice High Priority Sub2 > SUB12
12 MT Call Signaling Voice Low Priority Priority Subscription Wins
13 MT Call Signaling MT Call Signaling Priority Subscription Wins
14 MT Call Signaling Baseline Sub1 > Sub2
15 MT Call Signaling Data Only Sub1 > Sub2
16 Baseline Voice High Priority Sub2 > Sub1
17 Baseline Voice Low Priority Priority Subscription Wins
18 Baseline MT Call Signaling Sub2 > Sub1
19 Baseline Baseline Priority Subscription Wins
20 Baseline Data Only Sub1 > Sub2
21 Data Only Voice High Priority Sub2 > Sub1
22 Data Only Voice Low Priority Priority Subscription Wins
23 Data Only MT Call Signaling Sub2 > Sub1
24 Data Only Baseline Sub2 > Sub1
25 Data Only Data Only Dedicated Data Subscription Wins
1New MT call on Sub2 not yet accepted by user
2New MT call on Sub1 not yet accepted by user
SAR Management
SAR Management
 Same model as SGLTE, SVLTE

 Need to provide a framework for OEMs to specify Tx power limits in all
possible coexistence tech Tx scenarios
 RF software already supports single Tx scenarios (standalone case)
 MCS supports SGLTE/SGTDS scenarios
 In DSDA, the priority of the two techs can change dynamically, e.g., a call
in local hold
 Simultaneous Tx use cases for MSM8926 modem
 G+G
 W+G
 1X+G
 HDR+G
 TDS+G
 LTE+G
SAR Management – High-Level Design
 Tech L1s provide the following inputs to MCS:

 Tx on/off state indications (enter/exit Access/Connected state)
 Current band
 Time averaged Tx power periodically
 MCS will know if more than one tech is transmitting. It will also know the
priorities based on the priority scheme.
 MCS will read the Lookup Tables (LUT) in EFS to arrive at Tx power limit
to be applied to the low priority technology.
 LUTs are configured by OEMs.
 This limit will be communicated to the tech RF software module to apply
the backoff.
SAR Management – Block Diagram
SAR Management – SAR EFS File Structure
 SAR power EFS file location – /nv/item_files/mcs/lmtsmgr/sar

 The record structure for G+X (G is GSM technology and X is non-GSM
technology), has the following fields (in order):
Field name Size in bytes Type

HP Technology Band Identifier 4 Unsigned Int
LP Technology Band Identifier 4 Unsigned Int
HP Technology Backoff Flag 1 Boolean
HP Technology Power limit 2x2 Signed Int
Num valid rows in LP tech LUT 1 Unsigned Int
Lookup table for LP technology power backoff 5x2x2 = 20 Signed Int
GSM Tx power (dBm*10) LP Tech Tx power limit (dBm*10)

x1 y1
x2 y2
x3 y3
x4 y4
x5 Y5
SAR Power table for GSM+X technology mode
Here constraint is (x1 < x2 < x3 < x4 < x5) and (y1 > y2 > y3 > y4 > y5)
SAR Management – SAR EFS File Structure (cont.)
LTE band class Band identifier
 Band identifier B1
B2
0
1
B3 2
1X band class Band identifier GSM band class Band identifier B4 3
BC0 0 Band 850 0 B5 4
B6 5
BC1 1 Band 900 1 B7 6
BC2 2 Band 1800 2 B8 7
BC3 3 Band 1900 3 B9 8
B10 9
BC4 4
B11 10
BC5 5 B12 11
WCDMA band class Band identifier
BC6 6 B13 12
Band IMT 0 B14 13
BC7 7
Band 1900 1 B15 14
BC8 8
BC3 2 B16 15
BC9 9 B17 16
BC4 3
BC10 10 B18 17
Band 800 4 B19 18
BC11 11
BC8 5 B20 19
BC12 12 B21 20
BC9 6
BC13 13 B22 21
BC11 7
BC14 14 B23 22
BC19 8 B24 23
BC15 15
B25 24
BC16 16 B26 25
BC17 17 TDSCDMA band class Band identifier B27 26
BC18 18 B28 27
B34 0 B29 28
BC19 19 B39 1 B30 29
B40 2 B31 30
B32 31
HDR band class Band identifier B33 32
B34 33
BC0 0 B35 34
BC1 1 B36 35
BC2 2 B37 36
B38 37
BC3 3
B39 38
BC4 4 B40 39
BC5 5 B41 40
BC6 6 B42 41
B43 42
B44 43
RF Coexistence Management
RF Coexistence Management
 In simultaneous multitech operations, there can be interference due to:

 PA noise or Rx Band Noise (RxBN)
 Desense can be up to several 10s of dB
 Intermodulation products
 IM2/3/5/7
 Desense can be up to many 10s of dB
 Harmonics
 Desense can up to several 10s of dB
 Blocking
 Tx band of one technology overlaps with the Rx band of another technology
 Desense is many 10s of dB
 Reciprocal mixing
 Tx of Technology A is downconverted to Rx baseband of Technology B by Local
Oscillator (LO) phase noise of Technology B
 The technology that is getting desensed is the victim and the other
technology is the aggressor.
 The necessary mitigation needs to be applied to avoid desense.
RF Coexistence Management – CCSA Desense Spec
 China Communications Standards Association (CCSA) desense spec
WLAN
GSM900 GSM1800 1X (800) 1X (2.1G) WCDMA TD-SCDMA
(2.4G)
GSM900 10 dB 5 dB 10 dB TBD TBD TBD 5 dB
10 dB
(CH228-278)
GSM1800 5 dB 10 dB TBD TBD TBD 5 dB
5 dB
(others)
1X (800) 5 dB 5 dB 5 dB
1X (2.1G) TBD TBD 5 dB
WCDMA 5 dB
TD-SCDMA TBD TBD TBD
WLAN 5 dB 5 dB 5 dB 5 dB 5 dB TBD
RF Coexistence Management – High-Level Design
 G+G
 GL1 Arbitrator will identify the collision and take the necessary action
 X+G where X is C, W, TDS or LTE
 A common coexistence library that will exist either in MCS or common firmware
 Each technology registers its timeline activities with this common library
 The common entity will then provide the following information to the technology
when requested before Rx/Tx operation
 Is there a collision?
 With which technology/band/channel?
 Is there a possibility of desense?
 Technology priorities?
 MCS will also provide the technology the amount of desense expected in the
coexistence scenario
 Each technology then takes the necessary predetermined actions based on the
above information
 Blanking Tx or Rx
 Power backoff
 Expanding DC loop bandwidth
 Single slot Tx, etc.
X+G DSDA RF Coexistence Issues
 Summary of RF coexistence issues in DSDA

 Does not include spurious emissions
 Expectations are emission spec for dual active will be the same as single active
 Each combination in X+G DSDA will encounter RxBN
 Combinations in dark gray are not deployed and have not been characterized
 TDS + G
 Hardware solution is in-place…..at $1 increase in BOM
 Software solution is work-in-progress
X+G DSDA RF Coexistence Issues (cont.)
 Summary of RF coexistence issues in DSDA
Chain1/Chain2 GSM 850 GSM 900 GSM 1800 GSM 1900
Blocking
GSM 850 RxBN RxBN RxBN
RxBN
Blocking
RxBN
Blocking
RxBN
Blocking
RxBN
RxBN Blocking RxBN
CDMA/DO BC0 RxBN
IM3/5/7 Rec Mix IM2
Blocking RxBN
CDMA/DO BC1 RxBN RxBN
Rec Mix, IM3 IM3/5/7
RxBN Blocking RxBN
WCDMA B5 RxBN
IM3/5/7 Rec Mix IM2
RxBN RxBN
WCDMA B8
IM3/5/7 Second Harmonic
RxBN
WCDMA B2 RxBN RxBN
IM3/5/7
RxBN
WCDMA B1 RxBN
IM3
 Summary of mitigations for RF coexistence issues in DSDA

Potential software solution for
Issues Hardware solution for mitigation
mitigation
RxBN Filter after GSM PA Robust Rx/Tx interference processing
IM Isolator after GSM PA Robust Rx/Tx interference processing
Blocking/reciprocal mixing None Robust Rx/Tx interference processing
Emissions Isolator/filter after GSM PA Robust Tx interference processing
Harmonics Diplexers at the antennas filter after GSM PA Robust Rx/Tx interference processing
 Hardware solutions will incur extra BOM cost and potentially extra path
loss
 Software solutions are not complete replacements for hardware solutions
 While software solutions mitigate severe desense, software solutions will incur
degradations in link performance when compared to the no desense cases
 Software solutions for DSDA RF coexistence

 Robust receive interference processing is AKA Rx blanking
 Robust transmit interference processing is AKA Tx blanking
 C/W Rx blanking entails
 GSM UL timing is known
 Null received samples during GSM UL slots
 Freeze DL/FL loops and filters
 RL/UL closed-loop power control set to “hold”
 Schedule searches or search sample collection to take place when GSM is not
transmitting
 C/W Tx blanking entails
 GSM DL timing is known
 Tx digital gain is zeroed out during GSM DL slots
 PA/Tx OFF over blanked duration
 RL/UL closed-loop power control commands are ignored over blanked duration
 Software solutions for DSDA RF coexistence (cont.)

 G Tx blanking for C FL or W DL provides protection for:
 C/W RF warmup (including ACG acquisition) + pilot reacquisition coming out of DRx
sleep
 PLL tuning + AGC acquisition in inter-frequency measurements
 cdma2000 Other/Candidate Frequency Searches (OFS/CFS)
 WCDMA Compressed Mode (CM) gaps
 WCDMA PICH, PCH, and AICH decode
 C/W reacquisition searches after call ended
 G to Tx blank for up to 20 ms immediately after a call ended
 If reacquisition failed, then G will Tx blank for up to 20 ms every TBD sec (a few seconds)
 G Tx blanking scheme after C/W call ended is for both G voice call as well as G data call
 Plan is to improve OoS algorithms to account for DSDA in Triton 2.0 or 3.0
 Software solutions for DSDA RF coexistence (cont.)
C/W Rx blanking when C/W Tx blanking when C/W Tx blanking when

Issues
G is transmitting G is transmitting G is receiving
RxBN 
RxBN + emissions  
IM 
IM + emissions 
RxBN + IM 
RxBN + IM + emissions  
Harmonics/blocking 
Harmonics/blocking + emissions  
RxBN + harmonics/blocking  
RxBN + harmonics/blocking + emissions   
 Determine thresholds to invoke Rx/Tx blanking for RF coexistence issues

 Pertains to periodic evaluations of whether interference power is overwhelming the
victim
 Motivation is to invoke blanking only when interference issue requires mitigation
 For IM + RxBN, threshold for Rx blanking will be based on Tx power of each
transmitter
 For RxBN only, threshold for Rx blanking will be based on Tx power of aggressor
 For emissions, threshold for Tx blanking will be based on Tx power of each
transmitter
 Tx blanking for emissions in essence renders the 2 Txs being mutually exclusive
 Tx blanking for emissions also eliminates IM issues…, but RxBN can remain in effect
 LUTs for blanking thresholds will be based on combinations of technology and band
 Blanking thresholds will be based on sensitivity plus an offset instead of actual
interference power
 For N GSM UL slot(s) desensing C FL/W DL, amount of desense is based on N/8 duty-cycle
 Sensitivity testing is a well-established procedure that can be executed by all/most tiers of
OEMs
 Characterization of actual interference power is likely to require new or more customized
procedures, and concern is that not all OEMs can take on such tasks
 Characterization of blanking thresholds will be done on a per-handset design basis
instead of a per-unit basis
References
Ref. Document
Qualcomm Technologies
Q1 COEX EFS Items for RF Interference Mitigation in Dual SIM Dual Active 80-ND928-89
(DSDA) Devices
Q2 Coex EFS Dual Technology Operation 80-NH099-1
Q3 SAR EFS Dual Tech Operation 80-NG451-1
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Revision Date Description

A Feb 2014 Initial release

 MSM8974/MSM8926 Platform Information

 Understand the differences between MSM8974/MSM8926 and MSM8x26.

MPSS MSM8974 MSM8926 Requirements summary

 All relevant RAT combinations are supported for DSDA

 MSM8926 supports LTE/WCDMA/GSM/TDSCDMA/CDMA

MSM8x26 Global B1, B2, B5, BC0, BC1 Quad Quad

Tx0 RX0 LTE/TDS/W DRx

DSDS state (SIM1 + SIM2) Rx0 Rx1 Tx0 Comment

Tx0 Rx0 Tx1 RX1 Rx2

 Voice call requirements

 Solve the RF coexistence issue of L+G DSDA

- DSDA L+G analysis, Udara Fernando, June 10, 2013

 Interference caused by proximity of two RF chains and RF nonlinearity

SIM1 (WTR1605L) SIM2

 MSM8926 and MSM8974Pro, MSM8974 chipsets support SGLTE using

 The hardware required for

 T+G hardware coexistence solution

 The UE shall support a multimode MSM8974PRO/MSM8926

 The opportunistic SGLTE+G DSDA UE supports a combination of two

 This hardware architecture has the

from that for LTE WTR1605L/

cell reselection will take place on a

and in EV-DO coverage

 For a UE that is configured with SIM1 operating with multimode modem

 Priority Scheme is needed to identify and prioritize activities such as

 The five possible states of a subscription arranged in descending

 When both subscriptions are performing similar activity, e.g., Voice +

Scenario Sub1 Sub2 Expected result

 Same model as SGLTE, SVLTE

 Tech L1s provide the following inputs to MCS:

 SAR power EFS file location – /nv/item_files/mcs/lmtsmgr/sar

Field name Size in bytes Type

GSM Tx power (dBm*10) LP Tech Tx power limit (dBm*10)

 In simultaneous multitech operations, there can be interference due to:

 China Communications Standards Association (CCSA) desense spec

GSM900 10 dB 5 dB 10 dB TBD TBD TBD 5 dB

1X (2.1G) TBD TBD 5 dB

TD-SCDMA TBD TBD TBD

 Summary of RF coexistence issues in DSDA

 Summary of RF coexistence issues in DSDA

Chain1/Chain2 GSM 850 GSM 900 GSM 1800 GSM 1900

 Summary of mitigations for RF coexistence issues in DSDA

Blocking/reciprocal mixing None Robust Rx/Tx interference processing

Emissions Isolator/filter after GSM PA Robust Tx interference processing

 Software solutions for DSDA RF coexistence

 Software solutions for DSDA RF coexistence (cont.)

 Software solutions for DSDA RF coexistence (cont.)

C/W Rx blanking when C/W Tx blanking when C/W Tx blanking when

 Determine thresholds to invoke Rx/Tx blanking for RF coexistence issues

Q3 SAR EFS Dual Tech Operation 80-NG451-1

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