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ICAS - Advanced - Topic 3 - Progeny
ICAS - Advanced - Topic 3 - Progeny
TOPIC 3 – PROGENY:
Progeny: promised or not? Progeny: early / late / denial? Concept of Beeja Sphuta
/ Kshetra sphuta, Santana tithi / Santana Guru / Santana yoga sphuta, putra
saham, Curses of Past birth, Nava Doshas related to progeny
• Combinations for adoption / dattu sphuta
• Determination of no. of children through : Parashara yoga, ashtakavarga,
sapthamsha
• Male or female progeny, classical method, Saptamsha Method
• Happiness from progeny, child parent relationship
Timing of child birth : dasha / Antardasha method / transit analysis, Ashtakavarga
of Jupiter, Shodya Pinda Method.
Significator house
2nd house (house of family and family member), 5th house (house of progeny, child,
feotus), 11th house (house of gain, fulfillment of desire, 5th house from 7th house).
Significator planet
If 5th house and lord of the 5th house placed with benefic planet indicates favourable
chances for getting child.
Delay in childbirth.
Influence of malefic on 5th house (house of child) indicates delay in child birth.
If 5th house or lord of the 5th house are placed with malefic planet, which is not good or
there may be delay in childbirth.
If Jupiter (significator of child) is become week or is placed with malefic planet (like Rahu,
Ketu, Saturn) or placed in malefic house (6th house, 8th house, 12th house), which may
create problems for childbirth.
If Ketu is placed with 5th house or lord of the 5th house, it may create problems related
to conception, small size of uterus or childbirth. Sometimes, Ketu causes miscarriage.
Similarly, Rahu and Saturn are also creating problems if both or any one is placed with
5th house or lord of the 5th house.
For childbirth, Mercury and Saturn are perceived as frigid & barren planets. Mercury and
Saturn in 5th house or with lord of the 5th house, would not give good result for childbirth
or progeny.
If Venus is combust in the horoscope indicates low semen count in male because Venus
signifies fertility and semen.
If Moon and Mars are placed with Rahu or Ketu in female chart, this planetary combination
showing problems related to menstruation, problem related to ovary
Sun signifies vitality, father, energy. Placement of Sun with malefic planet also indicates
problems related to childbirth. Sun and Rahu are placed in same sign, it forms Pitru
Dosha.
Generally, watery signs Cancer, Scorpio and Pisces are considered as fruitful signs.
Taurus, Libra, Capricorn and Sagittarius signs are comparatively less fruitful sign. While
Virgo, Aries, Gemini and Leo are sometimes considered as barren sign.
However, it is generally perceived that person who has Gemini or Virgo sign in 5th house
or lord of the 5th house is placed in this sign, may have twins. Lord of the Gemini and
Virgo sign is Mercury and Mercury signifies dual nature.
If Sun or Mars is strongly placed in 5th house, this may give male child in first issue.
Male planets (Sun, Mars and Jupiter are the male planets) are placed in 5th house, would
give male child and female planets (Moon and Venus are female planets) are placed in
5th house would give female child.
Timing of event
5th house (house of child, progeny) indicates chances of having child. Jupiter is natural
Karaka (significator) of child and 5th house.
When transiting Jupiter passes through the 5th house or aspecting to the Lord of the 5th
house or passes through 1st house, 2nd house, 5th house, 9th house, 11th house,
indicates conception and child birth.
During major period or sub period or lord of the 5th house or planet placed in 5th house
indicates chances of childbirth.
Moon
16.10.1981 Rahu
Ketu Mars
Asc, Sun,
Ven Mer R Jup, Sat
5th bhava lord, Sat is combust with Sun along with Jup in Virgo. Bhagyadipati
Venus is aspected in Mars, Sat and Rahu. Hence no children for the native.
Adoptions :
• The Saturn and Mercury associated with the 5th house/lord and the
connection of 6th house/lord shows astrological combinations of adoptions
in a native’s chart.
• The 5th house falls in Gemini, Virgo, Capricorn or Aquarius and has association
or aspect of Saturn or Mandi.
• The 5th Lord is weak and has no connection with Ascendant Lord and 7 th
• The 9th House is afflicted by Saturn with Mandi and Ascendant Lord badly
disposed to 9th house and it’s Lord.
• Lord of the 5th house is in a sign of Saturn in Navamsha and is in conjunction
with Mercury and Saturn.
• The 5th house from Jupiter in the AshtakaVarga of Jupiter contains more benefics
points contributed by planets occupying the signs of Saturn either in Rashi or
Navamsha.
• The Moon is placed in 5th house either in Rasi or Navamsha in a sign owned by
Saturn and is associated with planets other than Saturn.
• If the Lord of 5th house is in Saturn’s sign in Navamsha and Jupiter and Saturn
are in their own sign then a son is born after adoption.
Ketu Jup
5th bhava is occupies by Sat along with Moon and 5th bhava lord is debilitated
and aspected by Jupiter. Native had to adopt a Child.
Remedy
The chanting of Santan Gopal Mantra is helpful for pacifying the bad effects of
malefic planets causing problem in progeny.
• The Vedic astrology also suggest spiritual remedies as per the Poorva
Janma Shrapa Adhaya of Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra for the problem in
progeny. The Hindu astrology believe that problem in childbirth comes from
the bad Karma’s of past life.
• A strong lord of fifth house or putra bhava promises good progeny
• A strong karaka Jupiter would promise support to male child.
• Any malefic influence of 6/8/12 house entering into fifth house or affecting the
lord of fifth house from moon or ascendant could lead to problems with Progeny.
• Placement of lord of fifth in 6/8/12th house means delay or denial of progeny.
• The D-VII Divisional chart is also studied for kids,
Concept of Beeja Sphuta / Kshetra sphuta, Santana tithi / Santana Guru /
Santana yoga sphuta, putra saham
SPHUTA
Beeja sphuta is obtained by adding the longitude of Sun, Venus and Jupiter in the
husband's chart. The sum indicates a sign and its Navamsa. If both of these are in odd
signs, virility is present and the chances of an offspring are good. If both are in even signs,
virility and the chance of progeny are both absent. If one is odd and the other is even, the
progeny may be delayed.
Husband Mars,
30.06.1959 Mer, Ven
Sun + Ven + Jup = 74.37 + 209.09 + 110.49 = 403.51 – 360 = 435’ i.e. 43.51
Rishaba Rasi navamsha, Rohini 2nd Pada, which falls in Vrishaba Navamsha only. Since
rasi and Navamsha both fall in Even houses – it is not good. Even signs are not
favourable. If 5th bhava and lord are strong, children can be predicted.
Kshetra sphuta is worked out by adding the longitudes of Jupiter, Moon and Mars in the
wife's natal chart. If the sign and Navamsa thus obtained are both in even signs, fertility
and chances of progeny are assured. In case both are in odd signs, the progeny will be
delayed or even denied. If one is odd and the other is even, there may be a delay but the
progeny can be expected.
Wife
Rahu 25.08.1970
Sun,
Ketu,
Mars
Moon + Jup + Mars = 60.12 + 188.00 + 121.08 = 369.20 – 360 = 9.20. This comes in
Aries sign, Mithuna Navamsha – both are odd signs for the lady, it is not favourable.
Multiply the longitudes of natal Moon and Sun separately by 5, subtract the result obtained
from Sun from that of Moon, and convert the result into degrees, minutes, etc. Divide it
by 12. The quotient plus 1 gives the tithi required.
Jupiter-Curse of brahmins
Ketu-Curse of sadhus
Moon-Curse of Mother
Sun-Curse of father
Mercury-Curse of Uncle
Venus-Curse of spouse
Mars-Curse of brother
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Happiness from Children
JupR Ketu
14.10.17
9.10 Sat, Mars
Mer,
Moon,
Rahu Asc, Ven Sun
The native has 12 children. 7 Boys and now only 3 children are alive. He is very happy
from children. Even though 5th lord is retro, fifth bhava is aspected by lords of 9,10,11.
Sukha sthana from 5th bhava is Mithuna. Lord of Mithuna is exalted in his own house,
placed in 11th along with the lord of 9, 10. In the bhava kundali, Sun has moved to Libra
and Mars to Leo.
12.12.1940
Mars,
Mer, Sun Ven Asc/Rahu
The native has 3 children but he is not happy with them. Only pain. 5 th bhava lord, Sat is
retro and debilitated. He is placed in 8 th house and aspects his own house. Jup is also
retro, placed in 8th and is aspected by 3rd and 8th lord – Mars. Fourth from 5th bhava is
troubled. Hence no happiness from children.
1 - Self
Sample Charts
The fifth and tenth lord Mars, being a yoga karaka for this chart is exalted in seventh
house. This placement caused another Maha Purusha Yoga called ‘Ruchaka Yoga’. This
yoga gives power in politics. This is the main planet for the success of Karunanidhi in
politics. But a natural malefic planet in seventh house is not considered as good
placement with respect to married life. This would cause separation from spouse.
Karunanidhi lost his wife at very young age. But since seventh lord is exalted, he married
twice after that.
Fifth house is occupied by another benefic planet and ninth lord Jupiter. But Jupiter is
retrograded here. Jupiter is the planet for spirituality and religious beliefs. Since Jupiter is
retrograded it made him an atheist. If Jupiter is in fifth house, native wouldn’t have male
heirs. But since Jupiter is retrograded and fifth lord Mars is exalted he has more number
of male children.
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