Access Consciousness

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[Episode 47]
Access Consciousness to Heal Your
Life with Dr. Dain Heer
Audio Title: Access Consciousness to Heal Your Life with Dr. Dain
Heer [Episode 47]
Beryl:
Hello
and
welcome back to another
episode of
http://www.wiredforsuccess.tv. I am Beryl Thomas and with me is my cohost, Melanie Gabriel. Say hi, Mel.
Melanie: Hello everyone.
Beryl: So our mission at Wired for Success is to provide you with people
who are doing the extraordinary. People who maybe just like you, have hit
some roadblocks in life. And despite boosting the profits of Amazon
purchase of self-help books, starting on that cause, wrapping one leg
behind the other to balance your chakras and gazing adoringly at gurus,
still go through life with a crippling emotional ball and chain around one leg.
Todays guest was a successful chiropractor who to the outside world,
appear to have it all. However on the inside, a different story was going on.
Deep unhappiness was turning to despair. Despite looking in every
conceivable nook and cranny of the personal development world for help,
he was on the point of giving up on trying to make his life work on this
planet.
However, the universe had other plans for this young man. And his final
plea for help was answered. As a result, he now travels the world sharing
this life-changing wisdom. Today, hes going to share with us exactly how
the shift happened and why he believes with every cell in his body that
these powerful tools that he calls Access Consciousness can help each of
us create a life where we no longer need to be held back by unhelpful
thought patterns. We are thrilled to welcome Dr. Dain Heer.
Dain: Hi.
Beryl: Hi.
Dain: Thank you for having me. Im thrilled to be here all the way across
the world.
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Beryl: Indeed.
Dain: Wonderful.
Melanie: Delighted to have you.
Beryl: We know youre a busy man so we are honored that you found time
for us today.
Dain: Thank you.
Beryl: So Dain, you have this corky little phrase that I just cant get the
hang of. Its strategically placed in your work.
Dain: Yes.
Beryl: And what is it? Give us the phrase.
Dain: Well, OK. Here is the phrase, Right and wrong, good and bad, POD
and POC, all 9, shorts, boys, and beyonds. And you hear that the first time
and you go, What the heck? It sounds like gobbly gibberish and in foreign
language even. And basically, its like this. Its basically asking the energy
and the consciousness of you to go back to any time you ever made a
decision that you wanted to change and actually changed it. And it literally
works to change it.
Its based on the idea, its like the walls in our room look solid but science
tells us theyre not. Theyre 99.999% space. Well, what if the limitations in
your life were exactly the same way and you could access the space and
actually allow yourself to walk through them instead of being stuck by
them?
Melanie: So these words already charged with meaning then. You mean
anybody can use it and not even have the faintest idea of what theyre
saying?
Dain: Yes, yeah. And thats part of the beauty of it. From my point of view,
its like the universe actually wants us to have as many tools as we can
have available to start changing things. And it even works if you just use
the two words in the middle, POC and POD which stands for the point of
creation of wherever you planted the seed of the limitation or the point of
distraction of wherever you planted the seed of the limitation and ask it to
induce. So anything you want to change, you could go POC and POD all
that or you can say, all that weird stuff Dain said the other day and it still
works.
Beryl: So, let me just get clear on this because my mind kind of gets a bit
tussled with all this. So are you saying, you made up this phrase and
somehow infused it with power from the universe? Is that what youre
saying?
Dain: That would be awesome. I like that. Lets say that from now on. I like
your version. Yes, thats exactly what Im saying.
Beryl: Im going to have to copyright that very quickly.
Melanie: So we can make up our own phrase and say, let it behave like
Dains and wed be OK.
Dain: Well, a very possibly good work but so this particular phrase
though, it actually was part of Access Consciousness before I came along
13 years ago. And it was in a different form at that time. The form sort of
changed as we realized, Wow! Here is another thing that would create
limitation. Lets undo that too. And theres another thing, lets undo that
too. But it started by asking to go to the point of creation of the thoughts,
the feelings, and the emotions immediately preceding your decision to
create some limited point of view.
Because what Gary Douglas, the founder of Access realized prior to my
coming along, was if what most people tried to do is they try to work
backwards to their problem and its like you have to peel layer after layer
after layer after layer after layer after layer. But if you go and you take a
different tact and instead of going backwards to the problem like lets
imagine the problem of your life or whatever it is you want to change.
Its like a big oak tree standing in the middle of the road of your life that you
want to go down and theres a mountain to this side and theres a cliff on
this side and heres this big oak tree and you cant go around it. Its like,
wait a minute. You got to do somehow almost magical. Go back in time.
Follow a branch down back in time to where deceit started and vaporize
deceit out of existence. The whole tree disappears.
And Gary discovered this long before I came along and Im so grateful
because its part of what actually saved my life and sort of given me the
tools to truly create change that lasted not that sort of change were like,
Oh my gosh! I feel so good for about two days. You know what I mean?
Beryl: We know that, Dain.
Dain: Yeah. And Im so frustrated and tired and fed up with that feeling.
Thats where I got to that place 13 years ago where I was going to end it all
because of that feeling because I felt like Ive tried everything under the
sun. Ive read every freaking book I can get my hands on. Ive gone to
every seminar I can afford and then lots of them that I couldnt and still,
here I am depressed and unhappy. I needed different tools and this was
one of those.
Beryl: So Dain, are you saying then that this clearly is not a talking
therapy? Its not a counseling kind of therapy. Its not like this is my story.
Are you saying you dont even need to know what the story was? You just
trust that your unconscious will know when that time was before you just
created that stuff?
Dain: True. In using the clearing statement, yes. You do not have to know
when the limitation got created because a lot of times what we see in our
lives right now is actually a limitation thats been repeated over and over
and over and we dont even know when the germinal point of it was. We
dont even know when the seed was. But the universe does. And the
consciousness of you does. And the only time we ever created difficulty is
when we function from unconsciousness which is unawareness or anticonsciousness which is where were choosing against the consciousness
that we have.
If youve ever known, dont turn right and you turned right and it turns out
just as bad as you know it would, thats an example of unconsciousness
and anti-consciousness or you knew, dont start this relationship and you
started it anyway or dont start this business because we always know.
And so, what this does is it unlocks the choices that have been made
based on going against our knowing by bringing consciousness to the
situation. And literally, its undoing the positive and the negative so that
what youd like to choose can just be there. So it takes away the positive. It
takes away the negative and allows everything to be as it is.
Beryl: So its a very clever kind of time travel.
Dain: Yeah, exactly.
Melanie: I was just thinking that.
Dain: That is exactly what it is. And very brilliantly put because and what
happens is, the interesting thing is it works whether the point of creation of
that limitation wherever it got started was last week or hundred billion years
ago. It doesnt matter. It literally will go back wherever like you said like
time travel.
Melanie: So it cleared generational stuff.
Dain: Yeah, it clears thats the other thing that it clears so dynamically is
generational stuff. And if you believe in past lives, you can see that it would
work on that too. And if you dont, it will still work on it. And thats the
beauty of it is believe what you know. And one of the prime tools of Access
[0:08:19] [Inaudible] is whats true makes you feel lighter and lie makes
you feel heavier.
So what I say is even if I say something and it sounds weird, if it makes you
feel lighter, its probably true for you. If it makes you feel heavier, its
probably not. Please dont take anything that makes you feel heavier and
try to buy it whether I say it or anybody else says it. Apply it to everything
everybody says. Apply it to everything you read and start realizing that truly
its only what makes you feel lighter thats actually true for you. And all
kinds of other things can be true for other people but when you try to take
that into your own life and make it true for you, you end up creating a lot of
heaviness because its not your life youre living anymore.
Beryl: So lets go back then Dain to your story because that just reminded
me. You appeared to the outside world to have it all. And yet, on the inside,
you felt the heaviness of unhappiness and despair.
Dain: Yeah.
Beryl: So what do you think was really going on there?
Dain: Well, heres the thing, is I appeared to have it all the only thing that
I didnt that I was still struggling everybody would tell me, You have the
perfect life. You live in Santa Barbara which is paradise and youre a
chiropractor. And you have this beautiful girlfriend and blah, blah, blah.
And I was like, well, Im kind of struggling financially. Im kind of struggling
emotionally. Im struggling with all these things.
But basically what was going on, one of the in addition to feeling like I
tried so many things to make my life work and they were not succeeding.
But the only thing I acted on with at that time was I was doing something
wrong. I just wasnt good enough. I wasnt smart enough. I wasnt bright
enough to do these things. And a technique, if they said, OK, well, set your
goals. I would set the goals and I would try to head towards them and then
I would have one day where I missed out of 300 and judged myself so
harshly that I might as well have just laid face down to eat worms. It was
like so I was in such judgment of everything that I was choosing.
And heres another tool that started getting me out of it was is actually if
you can have the awareness that 98% of your thoughts, your feelings, your
inner emotions dont actually belong to you. They actually belong to the
people around you and you pick them up like a big psychic radio receiver
and have your entire life. And if youll ask, who does this belong to, the
thoughts, the feelings, the emotions, the judgments, the points of view, the
heaviness of your life, if it lightens up at all, its not yours. Youre just
picking it up from the world around you. Return it to sender with
consciousness attached because its not yours and you cant do something
about something thats not yours.
So in my case, sadness was one of the biggest things that was going on,
well, sadness and depression and lack of hope. And so, when I got this
tool, I was in the middle of it one morning. And so what happened was Id
gone for this Access Consciousness session with something called the
Bars. And the Bars are these 32 points on the head, and when you hold
them, they just dissipate all the stuff thats compressing your head and
compressing your life. And it makes it gives you the sense of kind of like
when you are when youre out in nature. After youve been there for 45
minutes or an hour and it feels like the weight of the world comes off of
your shoulders. Well, thats what the bars did for me.
So I had this Bars session and literally, the girl puts her hands in my head
and I said, Look, whats the effect of this? She said, Well, at the worst,
you feel like you had a good massage. At the best, your whole life will
change. And in the back of my head, Im going, Well, my whole better
change or Im killing myself. I can try this. Who cares if its weird?
And so literally, she puts her hands on my head and I feel this energy run
through my body that was like peace and space. And it was the first sense
of peace I had in almost three years. And I was giggling like a little kid for
the entire hour and 15 minutes of this session. And I get up after the
session and I was like, Wow! Has the universe always looked this
beautiful? I mean I remember looking at the clouds going, Youre so
amazing. I remember looking at the table that I had this pleather table. You
know what pleather is? Its plastic that looks like leather.
Melanie: OK.
Dain: I had this pleather table that I did my sessions on, my chiropractic
sessions on. And I dont know if youve ever been in a place where it feels
like youre doing everything wrong. But what I realized was, like in that
place where I was, it was like I was in judgment of everything I had any
connection to. And always, I thought, God! This freaking ugly table and I
cant afford another table. And I looked down after this Bars session and
this really pretty blue pleather that had this green through it and I remember
looking down at it going, Oh my gosh! Has this always been this
beautiful?
And so, it changed the sense of space that I had having this Bars session.
And what the girl did was she said, Look, I want to tell you this thing, 98%
of your thoughts, feelings, and emotions dont belong to you. Youre really
sensitive and aware. Youve been picking this stuff up. Heres a tool. And
she wrote down, Who does this belong to? on a sticky note.
Well, in emptying my pockets that night when I got home, I put all this stuff
on my nightstand and left it there. In three mornings later, I wake up and
one of the things that would happen for me is I would wake up in tears
crying because I didnt know how I was going to make my life work. And so,
this started again. And I looked over at my clock to see how much longer I
have to wallow in pity before I have to go act like Im a doctor who know
something to try to help other people change their lives.
And I look over and I see on this little yellow sticky note in her scrolled
writing, Who does this belong to? And so, I read it and all of a sudden, it
goes away, that tears.
Melanie: Wait, youre saying, just asking that question works exactly like
the POD and POC statement there?
Dain: Yeah.
Melanie: Carry on.
Dain: And it literally and I got to say, I would not have believed it. I mean
I seriously would not have believed it. If it hadnt happened to me exactly
that way, theres no way I would have believed it because I was like, I
mean really? Because when it happened, I was overjoyed and pissed off all
at the same time.
I was overjoyed because it was like, Oh my gosh, this changed! because I
had never been able to change it. It took me days to get out of it when I had
gone into that space in the past, if I ever got out of it at all. And then with
one sentence, it changed. So I was like, OK. So I was overjoyed but I was
really angry that somebody didnt tell me this a long time ago.
This should be handed out when you first get your reading, riting, and
rithmetic. The three Rs we have here in the US. And most of us probably
spell arithmetic without an A now. But thats a story for another time.
Beryl: So, I want to ask you here Dain, this experience that you then had
with Access Consciousness and you just felt this amazingness and this
contact with life like Im going to ask you, like youve never had it before or
was this like, Oh, I remember this. This is how it used to be before I had
this chunk of depression. or was this something that youd never
experienced before consciously?
Dain: Both. And what I mean by that is when I was a child, my dad married
a woman who was a Born Again Christian, which was very interesting to
me because I wasnt brought up around Bibles, church, or anything else.
And so, we started going to this Baptist Church and I went to a childs camp
and they said, If you want to, if this feels right for you, you can go out in
the woods with your Bible and ask Jesus into your heart to forgive your
sins. And I was like, What is that mean? They said, Well, Hell forgive
everything youve done wrong. And Im like, OK, Im in. Im going to do it.
Because even at that age, I had a sense of happiness but I also had a
sense of the wrongness. So much in my life I was like I was always the
one trying to heal everybody and try to make everything right that
everybody else felt was wrong. And thats and so, I go out into the woods
and I say, Jesus, I dont know if you exist because quite frankly, the people
that are talking about you are some of the most judgmental people ever.
And they say one thing on Sunday and do another thing on Monday. But if
you actually exist and like the preacher said, this is between you and
between me then Im inviting you into my heart to wash away my sins. And
it had the same energy.
So there was this sense of space and peace and it was like everything was
peaceful. It was overwhelmingly so. And for me, that lasted for two years.
Everything I would do, Id say, Give it up to Jesus. Everything that was a
problem Id say, Give it up to Jesus. I didnt know I was becoming a Born
Again Christian at the time and I would definitely not consider myself that at
this point. But because I dont have the points of view that go with it but
that sense of peace was something I remembered.
But what I found with Access is it actually I think theres something true in
anything that has been around for any length of time. And so, its like what I
found is a lot of people know that theres something true in what theyre
doing but they havent yet found the tools to make it work in this reality. And
what I see with Access is you can believe whatever you want to believe but
if you actually use it to create use the tool and make it work easier. Make
your life easier and make your life a better place. And then you also share it
with other people not share it. But by being that, you give other people
the awareness that their lives can be different too. They can be more of
what they really like them to be.
Beryl: So tell me, do you have bad days?
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Dain: Oh yeah. But heres the thing about it is it used to be that I had bad
months. And when I started doing Access, it went from bad months to bad
weeks to bad days where a day was a bummer. Now, if it lasts longer than
two hours, Im like, This is a big thing. How do I get through this? And
thats what Ive seen with the people that have come to Access and actually
used the tools is this thing starts to happen where more of your life is
lighter. The highs are in a sense, I would say, higher but its more like sort
of the general level of your life gets raised to a sense of more ease, more
space, more possibility. And the lows, you dont go as low. And you know
you can get out of them.
Beryl: Exactly. Thats what I was going to ask you because its sounding
like now, you have the tools. Once you have the tools, theres nothing to
fear in having a little bit of a dip because its like you are driving and you
think your car is a bit dodge but youre OK because the breakdown van is
right behind you all the time.
Dain: Thats right, exactly.
Beryl: You can always get out of it. So thats going to give you a much
higher level of confidence, isnt it?
Dain: Yes, absolutely. And the beauty of that confidence is then you go
through the world without fear. You actually go through it with a level of
enthusiasm and you start embracing things that in the past, you might have
tried to reject or tried to do without. And all of a sudden, youre like, Wow!
OK. Ill try it out. I mean how bad could it be? Or a question Id like to ask,
how does it get any better?
Melanie: So you spoke about the Bars, are the Bars a natural extension of
Access Consciousness? Can you just differentiate between the two?
Dain: Yes, absolutely. The Bars are in essence, the beginning of Access
Consciousness, where Access Consciousness started. And thats how
Gary Douglas, the founder, sort of knew, OK. Im on to something different
here. And realized, Not only am I on to something different but Ive
actually got to let other people know this is available because it will help
contribute to change in their lives.
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So the Bars is this hands-on process on the head and then theres also
some energetic stuff that I do that Ive developed actually when Gary
Douglas walked into my office for a session and said, Look, the first two
levels of network that youre doing I was a network chiropractor at the
time. He said, The first two levels dont work on me. You have to go
straight to the third level. I had no idea how to do that. He said, Look, just
talk to my body. Ask it what it wants. Youll know what to do. It was the first
time in my life anybody who had created any technique who was coming to
me for anything said I would know what to do.
And there was an energy that came through and at one point, his body was
flapping on the table like a fish and I was standing 15 feet away not even
touching him and I went and I was looking at my hand going, Have you
always been able to do this? Shouldnt you have told me long before now?
So theres all kinds of aspects to it but really, I think the fundamental aspect
is that its got the tools to change whatever it is you desired to change
whether its taking a different perspective on something, whether youre
somebody whos actually a healer like you have the capacity or desire to
make peoples lives a better place. And so, youre trying to take on their
pain and suffering or take on their depression or take on their physical stuff.
Its looking at things from this different point of view and then also using our
friend, our POC and POD that we talked at the very beginning to start
changing things from a totally different perspective than most of whats out
there right now or any of whats out there right now.
Beryl: So, I mean this is fascinating, Dain. Its absolutely fascinating. Im
wondering now, can you help people who are physically ill? Because I think
were touching on emotional ill health now.
Dain: Yeah.
Beryl: Well number one, what would you say about the link between
emotional and physical health or ill health? And then so how you do then
tackle physical health? Can you talk around that topic?
Dain: Well, heres the thing. The emotional well, Id say theres such a
link. In fact, one of the things that Ive been explaining to people lately is
see, what happens is your point of view creates your reality. And with your
point of view, you also end up creating your physical reality in your physical
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body because what happens is you have energy and what it does is with
your points of view, it will form itself into whatever your point of view is.
In other words, the energy turns into matter based on the point of view that
you take. So, when you have a point of view like for example, Gary was
working with the lady who had breast cancer and he said, What are you
dying to get out of? And she said, My relationship. And he went, OK.
Youre creating breast cancer to get out of your relationship. She said,
Yup. He said, OK. Would you consider changing that? She said, No.
He said, Well, would you consider getting a divorce? No, I could never do
that to my children. Now, the lady was 70 years old. He said, How old is
your youngest child? She went, 52. OK. Wait a minute, you dont think
your kids would understand you getting a divorce and theyre in their 50s?
And she said, No. And literally, he gave her money back and she ended
up dying of breast cancer.
Well, thats a choice she made. See, we have the tools to give a different
choice if somebody is willing to have it but its always their choice. And with
things like cancer, HIV, the sort of the biggies, its like, what weve seen is
about a 50% success rate in helping people change it. But its always their
choice. Were not the ones doing it to them. If you have to do it to them,
there will be one thing and thats not us. Its like its got to be their choice
because otherwise, were not actually creating more consciousness in the
world.
So basically, theres link between emotions and physical. Its there but its
not always a cognitive choice. In fact, its very seldom a cognitive choice
that someone has made to create something. Most of our choices have
been non-cognitive. Most of the things that stick us have been noncognitive. And most of the things that will unlock us are actually noncognitives which is why this clearing statement works so well because if
you can imagine one of those days when you wake up and you feel like the
elephant is on your head and you are just buried and you are like argh!
Well, try putting words to that. You could put thousands of words to it and
still not 100% describe it.
Well now, if you just go with the energy of it and go, OK. So, everything that
allows this to exist POC and POD all that and literally, it can start to
change. And Im giving a simplified version. They are more in a sense,
more complex verbal processes if you will that address specific energies of
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things. But this is one way to get started and started realizing that you can
change things just by asking for it and changing the energy of it.
Beryl: I was on one of your webinars well, I recorded it and listened to it
one day. It was one in a new year. And I tweeted you about it because I felt
such a shift in my torso just listening to you and do the POD and podcast
thing. And I just listened to you and I felt in my chest particularly this
lightness and I wasnt conscious that I had any particular problem at that
day. I wasnt listening I was listening because we were going to be doing
this with you.
Dain: Right.
Beryl: So I wasnt looking to be healed as it were and yet, this really nice
feeling was going on. Actually, I can feel it again now. Im talking about, I
can feel it again now.
Dain: Yeah. And pardon me, Im grabbing a power supply.
Beryl: Thats OK. Feel free.
Dain: Well that see, thats one of the things that is exactly what happens
is you have these changes in things that you werent even cognitively
asking for because cognitively, you didnt actually know it was there. And
all of a sudden, its like, Wow! Ive got more lightness. Ive got more space.
Ive got more ease. And thats one of my favorite things about this is
pardon me, heres the view of hotel room, one of my favorite things about
this. Im working, yet again. No, I did the ironing. Yeah. I wanted to look
good for our video interview. But I actually have to go to work right after
this. So I did the ironing a little earlier.
So yup, Im just showing it all to you. OK. So but it changes so many
things. And for me, getting to the place 12 years ago or 13 years ago now,
it is 2013, getting to the place where I was going to end it all has given me
this huge freedom to demand that my life is either a joy or I dont have to be
here. And so, giving somebody a tour of my hotel room or whatever, its like
thats fun. I mean its like so many people are so uptight about everything,
trying to do everything perfectly and trying to do everything right.
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But you sit on a telecall like that and you hear it and you feel this sense of
space. And what it does I think is what were doing with Access is
unlocking what doesnt like you to be the being you know you are, the
being you want to choose to be in every situation because you dont want
to be frustrated with people. You dont want to feel separated from people.
You dont want to feel mean. You dont want to feel unkind. But sometimes
those are the choices we make because those are the energies that are
driving us.
What it does, it changes those energies so you can be that being, it is that
lightness. And a lot of times, you feel it in your body because a lot of the
impact that we place on ourselves by being in this reality and the decisions
and judgments that weve made and taken on from others, we impact our
body with. And thats what a lot of Access will unlock whether we
specifically work on the body or whether we do this verbal processing
because theyre all connected.
Beryl: Why am I feeling tearful now? Why is this all welling up now?
Release.
Dain: Well, yeah. And there are times where we get the chance for
whatever reason to acknowledge whats true for us, to acknowledge the
beings that we are. And there are so little of that on this planet that we get
from other people or that we get in their presence. And what if the tears like
you said, are release and also an acknowledgment of you and of us and of
how we can be.
Melanie: So, one of the things I wanted to ask, so clearly, what these
statements do or the whole Access Consciousness process does is it
raises our awareness especially of the things that are going on that we tend
not to realize is going on. Now, we can be so conditioned that we dont
realize theres anything that needs to change. And Im thinking of this
because Beryl was saying she was just listening to, what was it a podcast?
I dont know.
Beryl: A webinar, yeah.
Melanie: A webinar. And she noticed a lightness in her. So Im wondering
whether the statements that are made, are they meant to be a kind of a
provocation to bring things to the surface so they can be cleared?
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Dain: Actually in a sense, what we do is we ask questions. So I would ask

and heres the thing about asking a question is anytime you ask a
question, you bring up the energy of whatever that question is that you
were asking. So for example, if you ask a question, whats it going to take
to change my money situation? Well, the energy of that comes up and its
there. You dont necessarily can touch it but theres an energy that comes
up when you ask that question.
And so, what were doing is so for example, I would say, OK. So, what
invention are you using to create the upset or unhappiness you were
choosing? Because unhappiness is always an invention. Its always
something we invent and create. So you say, what invention are you using
to create the unhappiness youre choosing? And then we go right and
wrong, good and bad, POD and POC, all 9, shorts, boys, and beyonds. Or
what invention are you using to create the money problem you are
choosing? And then I ask, will you destroy and uncreate it?
And people sometimes especially if theyve been in the realm of looking at
doing self-help work and that sort of thing, I say, Destroy it. And they go,
No, I wont destroy. And I say, You know what? I totally understand that. I
would have been in the same point of view 13 years ago. But if youre
going to heal someone of cancer, dont you have to destroy the
unconsciousness thats creating the cancer? If youre going to heal yourself
of your money situation, dont you have to destroy the limited points of view
that create you not having the money you desire?
So I ask, will you destroy meaning, will you take the structure away that you
built? And then will you uncreate which means stop putting your creative
energy into that limitation and doing both of those together, undoes the
place where this thing can limit you anymore. And the way we get to the
thing thats limiting you is by asking the question which brings up the
energy and then we POC and POD it and then it changes.
Melanie: Actually, its funny. While you were talking about that and you
used money an example, I suddenly was aware of ohh and then OK. So
you then have a conversation with the person around whether theyre
willing to destroy it. And they say yes. You then go ahead and POD and
POC.
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Dain: Exactly. And this is the thing about it that its always got to be their
choice to let something go or to let it change because otherwise, were
doing the same thing weve done for thousands of years in trying to make
somebody else responsible for our lives. And its part of the reason we
have the world we have that doesnt work. Whats required is something
different.
And so, yes, its like if the person is willing to, even if they dont know how
thats going to happen. They dont have to know how the change is going to
occur. They just go, Yes, Im willing to allow this to change. Cool. Right
and wrong, good and bad, POD and POC, all 9, shorts, boys, and beyonds,
and that gets to start it. And then there is that next thing that will come up
that we can work on because what people dont realize is a lot of people
know its going to take a journey of a thousand steps.
So they have this point of view, it will take a journey of a thousand steps to
get the change theyre looking for. But their point of view is that they dont
see all thousand steps and know how to navigate every single one of those
steps to the next step, to the next, and to the next, and to the next one. Of
all thousand, theyre not even going to start on a journey. Well no, thats
never going to work. What you need to do is be willing to take the first step
because only after youve taken the first step does a second step even
show up.
So what happens with this clearing statement is we POC and POD which
shows us whats underneath it and then we work on that and then we clear
more and more and more. And all of a sudden, the thing you were working
on doesnt exist as a problem anymore. Its just gone. Its just different.
Beryl: So I think what Im hearing you say here, correct me if Im wrong,
Dain, is I mean this is a massive journey, isnt it? But it could be quite fun
I think. Its not necessarily because were perhaps in personal
development of kind of a classical, youve made my brain go a bit funny
here, of a classical mode where were encouraged to have goals, arent
we? And where do you want to be in a year? Where do you want to be in
five years? And so forth.
And Melanie and I have come to understand that that can actually be a bit
limiting because you could set your goals quite a little bit too small.
Perhaps, the only goal to have is like where there are no limits to where we
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can go. And I think this is kind of what youre encouraging. If you were to
use this as a coaching tool with people, to just let it all unfold to not
necessarily know where youre going to go but it sounds like everything we
want is on the other side of fear. We know that. That everything we want is
on the other side of that fear. We dont know what could be there because
we probably havent been there before. Is this making sense? Is this kind of
the way that you would work with people?
Dain: Yes. And let me make a couple of distinctions if I may that hopefully
will help people, clear a little bit for people on this particular subject. Will
that be OK?
Melanie: Yeah.
Beryl: Yeah, do, do. Love to.
Dain: OK. Cool. So here is one of the things that sticks us dynamically is
where we set a goal, we achieve it but we dont acknowledge it which
means we then take ourselves back to the beginning to try to set out
achieving the same goal that we just achieved. Now, this works
dynamically with money as an example because there are people who set
a goal to have a certain amount of money and dont realize they have
achieved it and they achieve it in this lifetime or some other lifetime. It
doesnt matter. And then they go back to the beginning to try to achieve
what they just did.
And so, what I suggest is rather than setting goals, set target. Set a target
because you can take aim at the target and shoot and shoot and shoot and
even if you miss, you can always shoot again. And you dont have to judge
yourself for missing because its a target. Its not that you didnt make your
goal which is a huge source of judgment for most people. So set targets
because even if you hit a bulls eye with a target, you can split that same
arrow if thats of desire to you or you can move a target further on.
And so, it freezes up this whole area of goals. So lets use this clearing
statement to undo the sticking places that weve created based on goals.
And one of the things I want to say about this is one of the ways Access is
so different in a lot of what I had done prior to Access is we would have this
conversation about targets if they had had the technology or the
awareness, and then wed have the conversation about goals, and youd
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be, Oh cool. Im going to do targets from now. And then go on your way
except you hadnt cleared all those limiting beliefs and all that stuff that is
still sticking you from every goal youre judging yourself for not achieving.
But with Access, we have the conversation about both and then we change
the baggage. So you go forth baggage-free.
So all that goals that youve set in any lifetime that you achieved and didnt
acknowledged which means youve gone back to start over and how much
of your life is starting over, goals youve already achieved in some lifetime,
will you destroy and uncreate it, please? Yes?
Beryl: Yes.
Melanie: Yes.
Dain: Thank you. Right and wrong, good and bad, POD and POC, all 9,
shorts, boys, and beyonds. And how many judgments do you have of you
for not achieving your goals, for not being good enough, for not being smart
enough, for not being bright enough, and of course, it must be you thats
wrong not the fact that you said something that was just impossible for
anybody to ever achieve. And so, that was going to motivate you. Yeah,
motivates you right in the judgment of you.
So all of those and all the judgments you thought you had to heap on you
as though if you judge you then youd get better. No, when you stop judging
you, thats when you get better. Everything that is time is a godzillion. And
a godzillion is a number so big, only God knows. Will you destroy and
uncreate it, please?
Beryl: Yes.
Melanie: Yes.
Dain: Right and wrong, good and bad, POD and POC, all 9, shorts, boys,
and beyonds. Oh, thats got a bit of energy to it. This goal thing is
apparently stick oh, my hand just moves as the energy does. I apologize.
I know sometimes people are like, What are you doing? Im like, I dont
know. Its not my fault. It just happens. And I thought I was making an
upbeat for and what would happen is Id be working with somebody and all
of a sudden, Id looked down on my hand and it would be wriggling. Im like,
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Well, guess Im not making it up. I would stop it if I could. It just moves
when the energy does.
So with this thing with the goals and the targets, if you can imagine no
longer having to judge you for what you havent accomplished, for what you
havent been, and realized that we bought this lie somewhere that judging
us is somehow going to make us better. But it doesnt. Judgment is a
distractive force. Coming out of judgment, coming into creation, coming into
question and choice and possibility and contribution, are creative forces.
And thats what I would suggest people do.
Beryl: So now, were on a roll here, Dain. Can I just stop you here?
Dain: Yes, please.
Beryl: Because this is getting exciting. What Ive just remembered is how I
give myself a hard time for failing, for all the failures Ive ever done. Could
you do a quick thing on that?
Dain: Absolutely. So lets do this. So let me ask you a question. Did you
truly fail or do you only fail at those things that you truly dont deserve to
succeed at?
Beryl: Oh gosh.
Dain: Whats true makes you feel lighter.
Beryl: OK. Perhaps, I didnt want them that badly.
Dain: Well, and its not if you look at it, like for example, I was working
with a lady who had just lost her job and she said, Ive never been fired
from a job before and Im so scared and so depressed. And I said,
Excuse me. She went, What? I said, Is this the same job that 12
months ago you were telling me you so wanted out of? And I said,
Everything that does not light, leave it with total ease and your timing. Will
you destroy and uncreate it, please? Right and wrong, good and bad, POD
and POC, all 9, shorts, boys, and beyonds. where she answered, Oh
yeah! And she smiled and started laughing. And I said, Good. Were
going out for a champagne to celebrate.
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Because truly, if you look at it

Beryl: Yeah.
Dain: OK? So everything youve done to judge that youre a failure for
making the things for all the things that you actually didnt want to
succeed at for whatever reason whether theyre relationships, whether
theyre jobs, will you destroy and uncreate it, please?
Beryl: Yes.
Dain: Time is a godzillion. Right and wrong, good and bad, all 9, POD and
POC, shorts, boys, and beyonds. And everywhere where you bought that
judgment of being a failure from anybody else, will you destroy and
uncreate it, please?
Beryl: Yes.
Dain: Time is a godzillion, right and wrong, good and bad, all 9, POD and
POC, shorts, boys, and beyonds. And everything youre doing to try to
validate other peoples realities with your choices, with your judgments of
you as a failure, will you destroy and uncreate it, please?
Beryl: Yes.
Dain: Right and wrong, good and bad, POD and POC, all 9, shorts boys,
and beyonds. Because unfortunately, one of the things we do rather
dynamically is we validate other peoples realities with our lives which is
kind of insane. But what we do is like lets say, mom had the idea that
money was a struggle. And I know were talking about money a lot but
apparently somebody out there will benefit from this. Because so lets
say, mom thought money was a struggle. Well, in order to not spit in her
face and say, Oh, your reality is wrong. You make money a struggle even
if it doesnt have to be for you.
And some people, they never get out of it. Some people, it takes them
years to finally have a different choice. So how many peoples realities
around money are you all listening and watching, how many peoples
realities around money are you validating? Everything, that is. Time is a
godzillion. Will you destroy and uncreate it, please?
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Beryl: Yup.
Dain: Right and wrong, good and bad, POD and POC, all 9, shorts, boys,
and beyonds. So this is how this works. We ask a question like that and
then we change it. Thats my favorite part is we dont just talk about it and
get ourselves more judgments and more confused. We change it along the
way. And what that does is, it creates more space with each time you run
this and then by the time youre done with either a session or a class or
something else, its like you have more clarity about the entire thing not
less.
Because whats been keeping you from having clarity in the areas of your
life are all these points of view and all these stuck places that weve
where we fix things in place and so thats the way it had to be. This thing of
validating other peoples realities is just one example. And if you start
coming out of that then you can see, Wait a minute. Oh, heres another
place where I do it. And then you go, Well POC and POD all that too.
And then, Oh, heres another place where oh my gosh! I just did it this
morning with my husband. Well POC and POD all that too. And then all of
a sudden, you walk around and you notice where youre doing it and you
have the tool to change it and then you find yourself one day, youre not
validating peoples realities, youre actually creating your own and you dont
even know how you got there.
Beryl: So heres the thing then. So this is what other people talked about
that were in too quite often. If you meet somebody, lets say, you meet
somebody who is very angry. Somebody very angry comes into your life. Is
that do you believe that is showing an aspect of you thats got some
unresolved anger? Could you just POD and podcast that?
Dain: Yes, and I like the POD and podcast. Thats awesome. I like that.
Beryl: Thats my own.
Dain: Were doing a new thing. Thats it. Like well just have them
downloadable on iTunes. POD and podcast, lets do this thing. Lets
change the world. Download it. So its so funny that you brought up that
particular example with that particular example because if you want to see
me get angry, tell me that the universe is a freaking mirror. When people
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tell me that, I just want to kick them somewhere. Im like, Give me some
flash. Let me kick it. Because and why do I say that? Because its been
so many things like that awareness that was once an awareness thats
been used as a legend against us.
Just because somebody is coming into your life thats angry doesnt mean
that all that you have anger, it means they have anger. Thats not your
fault. Thats not your problem. Now, if then you go to look for, How am I
angry? Where is my suppressed anger? What if its not true? So what I
say always is ask a question. When somebody says this to me, if they say,
Oh well, that person came in to your life because youre secretly angry.
And I ask, Am I truly secretly angry? If it makes me feel lighter, I know its
true. Even about something like that, if it makes me feel heavier, I know its
not true.
And so, I just go, OK. Am I secretly angry or is this person just doing their
own thing? And what I found in working with people who have been
invalidated by others, by others telling them the universe is a mirror. Im
like, No, it is not. If the universe were a mirror, things will look a lot
different. There would actually be a lot more happiness for the people like
you guys that are and us guys, all of us that are actually the seekers of
the world, there would be a lot more happiness in our world if the universe
were a mirror because basically what we do unfortunately is we try to take
on the pain and suffering of everybody else trying to make the world a
better place because we havent seen any other options.
Well now, we have some other options, POC and POD. And so, this thing
about anger though is a big one and there is so in Access, we have some
totally different points of view about anger and also fear. See, fear doesnt
exist in my world anymore. And it used to run my life. I mean literally, I was
starting my second chiropractic practice in Santa Barbara. I had moved out
of first practice which was in Hollywood. Thank goodness. But I had I was
starting from scratch.
And literally, the only thing I could think of doing was calling other people
on the phone, other practitioners and creating some sort of referral system
or something. And so, thats what I did. And literally, I would pick up the
phone and I would start shaking with fear because I didnt know all the
things I didnt know. I didnt how I was going to make the freaking and I
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would literally start shaking and then Id start crying. Theres a great picture
of a doctor, right?
But I had so much fear that this is what was going on for me at the time.
And I would hang up the phone. It would take me an hour using the tools I
had, this was prior to Access, take me an hour to get to the point where I
could actually make the phone call. Now, I would make the freaking phone
call, I got to tell you because I was not going to let that own me and I was
not going to be stopped. But now, I dont have fear at all. It does not exist in
my world.
So and everybody that has come to Access that has actually used the
tools that Ive given them, it doesnt exist in theirs either about anything
from IRS audits, to car accidents, to relationships, to money, they dont do
fear. Even when the global financial crisis happened, the people who had
been in Access any length of time and were using the tools, they didnt
have fear about it.
In fact, most of them some of them, their net worth went down but most of
them, their income didnt actually go down. Most of them, their income
actually went up. Why? Well because they didnt go into fear which meant
they werent looking for how it was going to be bad and wrong. They were
looking for, Wow! Whats the possibility here that this is presenting?
Whats it going to take to change this? And if I can change it, you never
show me how and POD and POC everything that doesnt allow it to
happen.
So the I want to say that about the fear thing because from my point of
view, its so important because it runs so much of our lives. What if it didnt
have to anymore? What if instead, its like, you know what, enough? So I
can tell you the three things about fear if you want, if you have any desire.
Beryl: Sure.
Melanie: Please.
Beryl: Love to.
Dain: OK. So one of the big ones is fear is actually excitement that youve
misidentified and misapplied as fear. And you go, What? What are you
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talking about? Well physiologically, fear and excitement are exactly the
same. Its our point of view that we attached to it where we go, Oh my
gosh, this is fear.
Like the lady who lost her job and called me, Im so afraid. I said, Are you
afraid or are you excited? She went, Oh my gosh! Im excited. I know.
You wanted to lose this job for a long time. You just didnt have the courage
to jump. They forced you to jump. And she went, Oh my gosh! Yes, youre
right. So true. And because she knows whats true makes you feel lighter. I
wasnt trying to put a point of view on her. I was trying to let her know the
lightness that could be there. So its either excitement that youve
misidentified and misapplied as fear.
And Gary tells a great story of being a 6-year-old and he was going to go
on the Ferris wheel for the first time. And hes pulling on his mommys skirt
and hes like jumping up and down pulling on her skirts and she looks down
and goes, No, dont be afraid, dear. And he was like, Oh, this is fear. It
wasnt until many years later that he realized it wasnt. So fear, thats one.
The second one is its a case of who does this belong to. In other words,
youre actually picking it up somewhere from the world around you thinking
its yours. So if and heres the way it works. When you have fear, you
want to go through these three things of which Ive given you two. First one,
you ask yourself, is it fear or excitement? If its excitement, what will
happen is it will get lighter and it wont feel like fear anymore. If thats what
it is because whats true makes you feel lighter and youre actually
acknowledging whats true. And fear by the way is always a lie.
So you ask, is this fear or excitement? If it changes, youre done. If not, you
ask, who does this belong to? If it lightens up and goes away, youre done.
If it doesnt, theres one more thing that we found that is rather interesting
that we can use our friend POC and POD to change, and that is actually an
implanted point of view. And I dont know where you get the implants. I just
know that they answer to implanted points of view.
So fear is actually something called a distractor implant. Its something
designed to distract you from moving forward in your life so you stay
running around in a circle. Now, I have no idea why. I have no idea how. I
just know that it actually works. So what you do is if any of it is lingering
after the first two things, you just go, OK. So all the distractor implant is
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creating this fear, POD and POC or right and wrong, good and bad, POD
and POC, all 9, shorts, boys, and beyonds or all that stuff Dain said the
other day and it will work.
So the three things about fear, its either excitement which is what its going
to be most of the time, its somebody elses, who does this belong to, or
you POC and POD the distractor implants. And I know that can sound
weird and I get it especially if people are watching this video, theyve never
heard of me, theyve never done any of these processing, theyre like, No!
Ive never done any of this. I know it can sound weird but try it and see
how it works. I mean if I could give you one gift in your life, if I could give
you just one, it would be to get over fear because its something that runs
the lives of the beautiful, amazing seekers of the world.
Bye my friend. My friend is leaving.
Melanie: OK. I know were running out of time. But quickly, in a nutshell,
the Energetic Synthesis of Being, how is this different from what weve
been talking about? I realized this is probably going to have to be another
interview but
Dain: Yeah, that could be its own interview. But basically what it is, is thats
what I call that energy that came through when I first started working on
Gary. And if you see some YouTube clips of people moving on the table
like a dolphin, thats the energy that is moving through. And its different
every time for every person. But what its based on is theres an acoustic
wave that connects us all.
Science tells us that were all interconnected now which I think is really
interesting. If you talk if you go to further stand of physics and explore
string theory, they talk about this concept of quantum entanglements in
which literally, were all interconnected based on these quantum
entanglements if you dont realized that its actually consciousness
emotion, OK? Whatever it is, whatever you want to call it, consciousness,
us, oneness, God, whatever works for you.
But basically, its using that energy of the connection to all things to undo
where weve created ourselves as separate, to undo where weve created
solidities in our bodies, to undo where weve created solidities in our lives
because we shouldnt have to have those. And thats what it does.
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And part of the beauty of it is its like sometimes youll be around somebody
who have you ever like do you have anybody in your life that sees you
with absolutely no judgment? That doesnt think you should be any
different?
Beryl: Melanie.
Dain: Yeah, right? So you guys are that for each other. I mean, what a gift.
And whats it like just being in Melanies presence? Its like the weight of
the world feels like it comes off of your shoulders and finally, you know
youre not wrong. Its not just a feeling although it is a feeling too. Its just a
knowing from your inside and your outside, its through your core that
youre not wrong anymore.
Well, imagine being able to gift someone that energy energetically? And
help undo all of their wrongnesses and all the places where theyve just
thought theyre a living wrongness and have locked it into their body and
locked it into their lives and locked out possibilities. For me, thats what this
ESB energy is and its different every time.
Melanie: So, is that what so this is clearly different from Access
Consciousness or is it the intention of it?
Dain: It is. Its actually part of Access Consciousness.
Melanie: So you would probably start with that.
Dain: Actually, you can heres the thing. Access Consciousness is kind of
like a mirror. You can jump on whenever you want and jump off whenever
you want. Actually, Energetic Synthesis of Being, the only class you can
actually get to of that is a taster which is like a 3-hour evening class. You
probably want to start with the Bars. If youre going to start with the class,
either the bars or a specialty class on a particular subject like we have
classes where we unlock the issues around sex and relationship, classes
where we unlock the issues around money, around body. Either so I
suggest, you either start with the Bars or one of the specialty classes to
unlock that or and then from Bars, theres foundation, theres level one,
theres level two, level three. And after level three, you can actually come to
an ESB class.
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Melanie: OK.
Dain: Because but theres oh, I forgot. One of the biggest classes that I
teach is called Being You, Changing the World.
Melanie: OK.
Dain: Yeah.
Beryl: Yeah. Tell us about that. Youre coming to London in March 2013,
which is a few weeks away.
Dain: Yeah.
Melanie: We will come to see you.
Dain: Yeah, come and see me.
Beryl: Were coming. Were going to we are coming.
Dain: Awesome. I am thrilled and I am very looking forward to meeting you
in person. Thats great. OK. You just excited me. So let me tell you Ill tell
you.
Beryl: Yeah, tell us about it. Tell us what were going to get there.
Dain: OK. So that particular class is an intro evening. It will be two to three
hours. I will have a table up there. Ill be pulling a few people out of the
audience and working on them to share this acoustic wave with everyone.
And when Im working on the person on the table, its amazing how often
people in the audience feel it in their bodies or feel a shift in their bodies as
this persons body shifts. And what it is, is its part of the gift that we are
and can be for each other that we know somewhere but we havent seen a
way of actually being here.
And so what happens is I use my awareness and my awareness of the
beauty and the possibility of that person is to actually share that, Yeah, I
dont have to destroy me anymore. I dont have to hide me anymore. And I
can actually truly be who I know I am and havent yet been willing to be.
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And also, when you realized that there are people in the world that wont
judge you. There are people in the world that see the greatness of you and
honor and acknowledge that greatness and are grateful for that showing
up. And you start to realize, Wow! Maybe Im not in wrongness anymore.
And your whole life can change.
Melanie: So thats the intro youll be doing in London. Does this mean that
youll be coming back to do something fuller?
Dain: Boy, I hope so. Im doing the intro in London. And Im actually the
Being You, Changing the World class is theres a three and a half day
class that I deliver as the Being You, Changing the World class which
actually includes the Access Bars class. But Im doing one day classes
throughout Europe, both in March and April and also again, in May or June.
And one day classes on particular topics, money, relationship, future,
bodies.
And so, Im doing one day classes on particular topics. The closest one to
you will actually be in Ireland and I have no idea when that is. But there are
several of them throughout Europe.
Melanie: Well, well find out and post that beneath the video.
Dain: Thank you.
Melanie: But we certainly need to make sure you start doing something
here.
Dain: I like that idea.
Melanie: OK. Well talk later.
Beryl: Yeah.
Dain: OK. Its a deal.
Beryl: And I think weve extracted a promise or promises from you to come
back and talk about more of these topics with us.
Melanie: I mean you will do that, wont you?
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Dain: It would be greatest pleasure.

Melanie: In the next month?
Dain: I would love to.
Beryl: Yeah.
Melanie: OK. Well set that up. OK. We realized
Beryl: We better let you go. OK. So we just need to do a little outro.
Melanie: OK. So oh, your website. Can you just tell the public where they
can find out more about you, websites, et cetera?
Dain: Absolutely. You can go to DrDainHeer.com. And there are two free
video series that Ive created. One is called the Tour of Consciousness.
And its just a tool that I share with you every couple of weeks from my tour
around the world, if you will, from my travels around the world. And its part
of my way of paying back what Ive gotten from the universe that had made
life so much fun to live. And its amazing how many times somebody will
send me an email and go, Oh my gosh! This was just what I was going
through. How did you know?
Im like, I know. Its great. And were all interconnected, right? So there is
that free videos series and then theres one called Being You. Its a Being
You video series and its got some of the basic Access tools. In fact, in the
order that I use them to change my life 13 years ago and how I did it and
some story in my own conversation about that. And then so you will get
one tool and Ill be back in your inbox a few days letter with another one
and another one. And its designed to get you to give you a running start
to change the things you want to change in your life.
And so, those are two free things that are there that are my contribution to
you because these tools have changed so much in my life. And for the
people that used them, they truly do make things a lot easier. So please,
its DrDainHeer.com. Go there and check it out. You can also connect with
me on Facebook, Facebook.com/drdainheer. And also, you can go to on
Twitter, its dr_dainheer. So please, connect. I would love to connect with
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you. Lets change the world together. Lets have a good time doing it. Lets
play more. Let people know its possible.
Melanie: And well certainly hold you to being back here next month.
Beryl: Yes.
Dain: Yes, I love it. Absolutely. Im looking forward to it.
Melanie: OK. Just to wrap up
Dain: Youre both wonderful.
Melanie: Excellent.
Beryl: Sorry, Dain.
Dain: I would just like to say thank you to you both. You truly are
wonderful. And your sense of humor also is a wonderful thing, may I say.
Beryl: Its pretty essential.
Melanie: We enjoyed it. OK. So just to wrap up, thank you all for tuning in
to todays episode of http://www.wiredforsuccess.tv. Id like to just make a
comment. If you are watching this episode on our site, then please
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