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Product Comparison –385C vs 385B

Introduction
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

The 385C is the successor of the 385B. The 385C has the The 385B is introduced in Japan in Feb. '02 as the successor
ability to meet EPA Tier III Emission Regulations as of the 375. The 385B meets EPA Tier II Emission
standard. The engine horsepower and hydraulic performance Regulations.
are the same as the 385B.

Photo C-01: 385C Overview (CDSCF1536)


Photo B-01: 385B Overview (BDSCF0889)

Product Comparison Section - Machine Configurations

Make Caterpillar Caterpillar

Model 385C 385B


Metric Metric English
Heading Unit English Unit Unit Unit Unit
Value Value Value
Boom 8.4 m 27 7 ft in 8.4 m 27 7 ft in
Stick 3.7 m 12 2 ft in 3.7 m 12 2 ft in
3
Bucket Capacity 3.5 m 4.58 yd3 3.5 m3
4.58 yd3
Bucket Tip Radius 2150 mm 2883 in mm 0 in
Bucket Width 1970 mm 2642 in mm 0 in
Service Hours 12.3 hours 1633 hours
Undercarriage (Standard/Long) STD STD
Shoe Width 650 mm 872 in 750 mm 1006 in

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Performance

Engine Horsepower
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• The Cat C18 engine incorporates CAT ACERT • The CAT3456 on the 385B is the engine of the excellent
Technologies to meet the EPA Tier III Emission Regulations. reliability that it is adopted in many products.
• The C18 engine features higher engine horsepower by • However, this engine has not capability to meet EPA Tier
2% than the CAT 3456 on the 385B. III Emission Regulations.

Photo C-02: C18 Engine (385C CDSCF1929) Photo B-02: CAT 3456 Engine (P6080142)

Model 385C 385B


Metric English Metric English
Heading Unit Unit Unit Unit
Value Value Value Value
Engine Model CAT C18 CAT 3456
Type 4 cycle 6 cylinder ATAAC 4 cycle 6 cylinder ATAAC
Displacement 18.1 liter 1104.53 in3 15.8 liter 964.175 in3
Rated Speed(rpm) 1800
Rated Power (Rated Output) 390 kW 523 HP 382 kW 512 HP
Max. Torque 254.25 kg-m 1839 ft-lb 2390 kg-m 17287 ft-lb
Emission Regulations
(Tier-Stage) EPA Tier III EPA Tier II

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Hydraulic System
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• The 3-pump system is used on the 385C. This system Same Hydraulic system as the 385C is used to the 385B. The
features excellent simultaneous operation with swing and hydraulic system on the 385B has the same features as the
implement/travel because the swing circuit including the 385C.
swing pump is completely independent of main pumps for
the implement and travel.
• The 385C uses electrically controlled PPPC valve
system to improve controllability.

Photo C-03: Electrically controlled PPPC Valve System


(prepro 385c_0255) Photo B-03: Electrically controlled PPPC Valve System
(P09-03)

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Hydraulic Pump Flow
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• The 385C uses higher system. In addition, the The maximum pump flow is the same as the 385C.
Heavy-Lift mode, which increases system pressure to
35MPa when activated, is provided to the 385C to increase
lifting capacity.
• The maximum pump flow on the 385C is the same as
the 385B. However, the 385C provides 2% more engine HP
than the 385B. This means that the 385C discharge more oil
than the 385B at the load condition.

Photo C-04: Hydraulic Pumps (385C CDSCF1878) Photo B-04: Hydraulic Pumps (P6080121)

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Product Comparison Section - Hydraulic Pump Flow

Main Pump
Make Caterpillar

Model
Metric Metric English English Metric Metric English English
Heading
Value Unit Value Unit Value Unit Value Unit
Model Variable Displacement Piston Variable Displacement Piston
Number of Pumps 2 2
Max. Pressure 32000 kPa 4641.28 psi 32000 kPa 4641.28 psi
Max. flow per One Pump 475 L/min 125.48 gal/min 475 L/min 125.48 gal/min

Swing Pump
Make Caterpillar
Model Variable Displacement Piston Not Available
Metric Metric English English Metric Metric English English
Heading
Value Unit Value Unit Value Unit Value Unit
Model Variable Displacement Piston Variable Displacement Piston
Number of Pumps 1 1
Max. Pressure 28700 kPa 4162.65 psi 28700 kPa 4162.65 psi
Max. flow per One Pump 460 L/min 121.52 gal/min 460 L/min 121.52 gal/min

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Cooling Capability
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• The variable speed cooling fan driven by the hydraulic The same design of the cooling units as the 385C is used to
motor is adapted to the 385C to improve cooling efficiency the 385B.
and reduce noise.
• The OCS (Oil Cooler Separate) type cooling unit is used
to the 385C. This layout features better cooling efficiency
and better clean-ability of the cooling unit.

Photo C-05: OCS Type Cooling Unit (Pripro 385c_0212)

Photo B-05: OCS Cooling Unit (P08-05)

Product Comparison Section - Cooling Package

Make Caterpillar
Model
Metric Metric English English Metric Metric English English
Heading
Value Unit Value Unit Value Unit Value Unit
Core Type Plate fin Plate fin
1302(W)x1390(H)x120(T)
Core Size mm ####### 1302(W)x1390(H)x120(T)
in mm ######## in
Heat Rejection 147490 kcal/h 172 kW/hr 147490 kcal/h 172 kW/hr

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Boom Cylinder Position
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

The rod end of the boom cylinder is positioned to the boom The rod end of the boom cylinder is positioned to the boom
side. side.

Photo C-06: 385C Boom Cylinder (385C CDSCF1645) Photo B-06: 385B Boom Cylinder (P3290048)

Styling
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

Photo C-09: Front View (385C CDSCF1536) Photo B-09: Front View (BDSCF0889)

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Photo C-10: Right View (385C CDSCF1529) Photo B-10: Right View (BDSCF0902)

Photo C11: Rear View (385C CDSCF1527) Photo B-11: Rear View (BDSCF0898)

Photo C-12: Left View (385C CSDCF1539) Photo B-12: Left View (BDSCF0892)

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Appearance
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• The cab which is newly designed for future models is • The cab on the 385B is the same trend as the “B”
adopted. Series.
• Large “CAT” logo is placed on the counterweight • The “CAT” Logo on the counterweight is smaller than
the 385C.

Photo C-13: New Cab for next generation excavators (385C Photo B-13: Cab (P6070064)
CDSCF1554)

Photo C-14: Cat Logo on the Counterweight (385C Photo B-14: Counterweight (P6070011)
CDSCF1618)

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Vehicle Configurations
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative
Various configurations are provided to the 385C to meet the Basically, the 385B provides the same variety of the vehicle
wide variety of the applications with highest efficiency. configurations as the 385C.
Especially, the Reach boom (10m) is a unique front linkage
to make Deep Trenching possible. Vehicle: Backhoe(385C), Front Shovel(385CFS)
U/C: STD, LC
Vehicle: Backhoe(385C), Front Shovel(385CFS) Boom: Reach(10m), GP(8.4m), Mass(7.25m)
U/C: STD, LC Stick: R5.5, R4.4, GP3.7, GP3.4, GP2.92, M3.4, M2.92
Boom: Reach(10m), GP(8.4m), Mass(7.25m) C/W: 11.6ton, 14ton
Stick: R5.5, R4.4, GP3.7, GP3.4, GP2.92, M3.4, M2.92
C/W: 11.6ton, 14ton

Photo C-15: Front Linkage (385C CDSCF1545) Photo B-15: Front Linkage (BDSCF1679)

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Stackable Valves
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

The stackable valve function which is provided to the Mid As the same as the 385C, the stackable valve function is not
series excavators is not provided to the 385C. However, one provided to the 385B. However, one auxiliary valve is
auxiliary valve is standard for the 385C. standard for the 385B.

Photo C-16: Main Control Valve (Prepro 385c_0256)


Photo B-16: Main Control Valve (control valve)

Tool Control System


Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

The tool control system is not provided to the 385C.


The tool control system is not provided to the 385C.

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Boom and Stick
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

The operators/customers can select optimum booms length The 385B provides the same variety of the booms and sticks
and stick length to provide maximum performance from as the 385C.
combination of three booms and seven sticks. Especially, the
combination of the Reach boom and the R5.5 stick make Boom: Reach(10m), GP(8.4m), Mass(7.25m)
deep trenching over 11m possible. Stick: R5.5, R4.4, GP3.7, GP3.4, GP2.92, M3.4, M2.92

Boom: Reach(10m), GP(8.4m), Mass(7.25m)


Stick: R5.5, R4.4, GP3.7, GP3.4, GP2.92, M3.4, M2.92

Auxiliary Hydraulics
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

Full range of the versatility is provided to the booms and Some of the booms and sticks provide the bosses to install
stick as standard. All booms and sticks have the provision of auxiliary lines.
installing high pressure lines, medium pressure lines, drain
lines and coupler lines. Because the bosses to install various
lines are provided in advance, field installation can be
accomplished with less down-time and at low cost.

Photo B-17: Stick with the capability to install auxiliary lines


(P3290047)

Photo C-17: Bosses to install Auxiliary Lines (385C


CDSCF1660)

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Auxiliary Pump
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

The 385C has the capability to installing the auxiliary pump The 385B has the same capability as the 385C.
as standard.

Photo C-18: Capability to install Auxiliary Pump (CD Photo B-18: Capability to install Auxiliary Pump (P14-12)
CDSF3171)

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Cab Layout
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

The switches and selectors which are frequently used are Except the radio and the control panel for the air conditioner,
centralized to the right of the operator. The operator can the switches are situated on the left console. The switch
easily access to the switches and selectors without stooping. panel on the right side wall is not provided to the 385B.

Photo C-19: Right side Switches Panel (prepro 385c_0382)

Photo B-19: Right side console (P12-16)

Photo B-20: Left side console (P12-19)

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Monitor
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• The monitor enclosure is compact so that it does not • Because the monitor consists of analog gauges, full
obstruct front visibility. However, wide area of the monitor graphic display screen (message center) and keypad,
screen presents excellent visibility to the operator. the enclosure is larger than the 385C.
• The monitor can be adjusted so that the monitor screen • The monitor is the fixed type. It cannot adjust its angle.
faces to the operator by tilting the monitor. The tilt • The cover is not provided to the keypad.
mechanism can also be used to prevent the reflection of the
unnecessary light.
• The keypad is equipped with a cover and also the
display screen is simple, which helps prevent the operator
from misleading.

Photo B-22: Monitor Overview (P13-01)

Photo C-22: Monitor Overview (385C CDSCF1734)

Photo C-23: Monitor Tilting Mechanism (385C


CDSCF1771)

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Monitor Display
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• The monitor screen is a full graphic dot matrix display • The message center is a monochrome type and display
screen and has larger display area with 70mm in width area is 72mm in width and 65mm in length which is
and 125mm in length. approximately a half of the 385C.
• The screen is easy to see due to high contrast and • The contrast of the monitor is lower than the 385C
simple screen because the background is black. because the background is brightened.

Photo B-24: Display Screen (P6080206)


Photo C-24: Display Screen (385C CDSCF2050)

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Monitor Language Display
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• The monitor has a capability to show the information As the same as the 385C, the 385B monitor has the function
with the language. One of 27 languages can be selected to displaying information by the language.
through the monitor functions.
• Warning information is shown with both of the icon and
the language. This helps the operator intuitive understanding
and to preventing misunderstanding.

Photo C-25: Language display capability (320D PICT0086) Photo B-25: Language display capability (P6080208)

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Information Display
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• With the default screen, the display is very simple • The gauges are the analog type which is best of the
because the machine status is only displayed on the screen. visibility under the direct sunlight.
• When abnormality is occurred, the warning information • When abnormality is occurred, the warning
window is displayed on the default screen. If the information is displayed on the message center. If the
abnormality is urgent, the master lamp will be blinked and abnormality is urgent, the master lamp and alarm will
alarm will be also activated, so that the operator can notice be also activated as the same as the 385C.
the urgency immediately.

Photo B-26: Analog gauge area (P3290032)

Photo C-26: Default Screen (385C CDSCF2050)

Photo B-26-1: Message Center (P6080208)

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Work Mode
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

Because of following reasons, the work mode is not As the same reason as the 385C, the 385B does not provide
necessary to the 385C. the work mode.

The 3-pump system adapted to the 385C provides


independent swing circuit from the implement. The discharge
flow from the swing pump depends on swing lever stroke.
This means that the swing priority is varied by the swing
lever stroke. And this is the same function as the automatic
priority function which is adapted to the Mid size class
excavators.

Photo B-27: 3 pump System on 385B (P6080121)

Photo C-27: 3 pump System on 385C (385C CDSCF1884)

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Joystick
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• The 385C uses the electrically operated joysticks. • The 385B uses the electrically operated joysticks.
• Because the height adjustment mechanism and a tilt • The armrest is installed to the backrest of the seat.
mechanism are provided to the armrest, the operator can Changing the reclining angle of the seatback changes
adjust the relative relationship between the joysticks and the the relative relationship between the joysticks and the
armrest so that the operator can operate the joysticks in a armrest. The height adjustment mechanism is not
comfortable posture. provided to the 385B.

Photo C-28: Electrical Joystick with Height Adjustable


Armrest (385C CDSCF1816) Photo B-28: Electrical Joystick with Tiltable Armrest
(P12-15)

Cab Accessories
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative
Drink Holder

The drink holder is positioned on the right front of the cab. Two drink holders are provided left rear of the seat. This
just under the monitor. This position allows the operator to position is hard to accessing.
access the drink easily.

Photo C-30: Drink Holder (385C CDSCF1736) Photo B-30: Drink Holders (P6080209)

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Accumulated Hour Meter

The accumulated hour meter is located under the monitor, The accumulated hour meter is provided on the same position
allowing for confirming it from outside of the cab. In as the 385C.
addition, the accumulated hour meter can be displayed on the
monitor.

Photo C-31: Accumulated Hour Meter (385C CDSCF1742) Photo B-31: Accumulated hour meter (P6080192)

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Skylight
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• The wider skylight of 780mm in width and 445mm in • The wider skylight of 720mm in width and 460mm in
length is provided to the 385C. length is provided to the 385B.
• Because the head guard is installed on the cab, the fixed • Because the head guard is installed on the cab, the fixed
type skylight is provided to this vehicle. type skylight is provided to the vehicle.
• The retractable sunshade provided to the 385C can • The slide-able sunshade is provided to the skylight. But,
cover not only the skylight, but also upper-half of the front this sunshade does not cover upper front windshield.
windshield.

Photo C-32: Fixed type Skylight with Sunshade (385C Photo B-32: Fixed type Skylight with Sunshade
CDSCF1578) (BDSCF0919)

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Upper Visibility

• The wider skylight of 780mm in width and 445mm in • The wider skylight of 720mm in width and 480mm in
length provide broad upper visibility to the operator. length provide broad upper visibility to the operator.
• Because there is not the upper-front pillar, the cab • The upper-front visibility is obstructed by the upper
provides excellent upper-front visibility with no pillar.
obstacle.

Photo B-33: Upper Visibility ( BDSCF0920)


Photo C-33: Upper Visibility (385C CDSCF1576)

Wiper Sweep Area

• Longest wiper blade, which is moved parallelogram, is • The parallel wiper is provided to the 385B.
provided to the 385C. • The width of wiper blades are 500mm and 550mm, and
• The width of the blade is 1220mm, and sweep area is sweep area is 0.457m2 or these wipers can sweep 42%
0.83m3 or this wider wiper can sweep 79% of the front of the front windshield.
windshield.
• Therefore, the lower wiper does not require to the 385C.

Photo B-34: Two wipers (P6070077)

Photo C-34: Parallel Wiper (385C CDSCF1559)

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Front Windshield
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• The front windshield is made by the Laminated Glass • The front windshield is made by the Laminated Glass
that prevents the scattering of pieces when the glass is that prevents the scattering of pieces when the glass is
broken. broken.
• The One-Piece front windshield of 805mm in width and The One-Piece front windshield of 770mm in width and
1440mm in height is used to improve front visibility with no 1420mm in height is used to improve front visibility with no
center pillar. center pillar.

Photo C-35: Front windshield (385C CDSCF1567) Photo B-35: Front windshield (P6070077)

Right Side Window


Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

The right side window is the one-piece type and is made by The right side window is the one-piece type and is made by
the tempered glass the tempered glass

Photo C-36: Right Side Window (385C CDSCF1575) Photo B-36: Right Side Window (P12-05)

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Left Side Window
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

The left side window is the fixed type and is installed on the The left side window is the fixed type and is installed with
cab with adhesive. the rubber seal.

Photo C-37: Fixed type Left Rear Window (385C Photo B-37: Fixed type Left Rear Window (P12-08)
CDSCF1572)

Rear Window
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

The hammer for emergency exit is provided to the rear The latch for emergency exit is incorporated to the rear
window. window.

Photo C-38: Hammer for Emergency Exit (385C Photo B-38: Rear window with emergency exit function
CDSCF1586) (P6080012)

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Door
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• The door is mounted to the cab shell with two door The function of the door is the same as the 385C.
hinges. The upper door window is slide-able and can lock at
the closed position. The lower window is fixed type.
• Two releasing latches are provided to the door. One
releasing latch is for the operator who sat on the seat. And
another one is provided to release the door from behind the
cab or this release latch allows the operator to release the
door from the catwalk.

Photo C-39: Door (385C CDSCF1557) Photo B-39: Door (P6070069)

Photo C-40: Door Release Knob behind the cab (385C


CDSCF1591)

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Photo C-41: Door Release Knob in the cab
(385CCDSCF1590)

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Hydraulic Actuation Lever
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• When the hydraulic actuation lever is in Lock position, The 385B provides the same function of the hydraulic
the joysticks and travel levers are inactivated. actuation lever as the 385C.
• When the hydraulic actuation lever is in Unlock
position, the engine is not cranked.

Photo B-42: Hydraulic Actuation Lever (Lock Position)


(P6080023)
Photo C-42: Hydraulic Actuation Lever (Lock Position)
(385C CDSCF1821)

Photo B-43: Hydraulic Actuation Lever (Unlock Position)


(P6080024)
Photo C-43: Hydraulic Actuation Lever (Unlock Position)
(385C CDSCF1822)

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Operator Comfort
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

Seat
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

The 385C offers wide variety of the seats and suspensions The 385B does not provide the seat with air suspension.
shown below: The following is the variety of the seats provided to the
1. Seat: Low back seat, High back seat, High back seat 385B:
with seat heater 1. Seat: Low back seat, High back seat, High back seat
2. Suspension: Mechanical suspension, Air suspension with seat heater
2. Suspension: Mechanical suspension

Photo C-44: Seat (385C CDSCF1825) Photo B-44: Seat (P12-13)

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Armrest
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• The armrest is with the height adjustment mechanism The armrest is with the tilt mechanism, but is without the
and tilt mechanism. height adjustment mechanism.
• The armrest is mounted to the console, not to the seat. Because the armrest is installed to the backrest of the seat,
This location has the advantage to maintaining the relative changing the reclining angle of the seatback changes the
relationship between the joystick and the armrest even when relative relationship between the joysticks and the armrest.
reclining the seat.

Photo C-45: Armrest (385C CDSCF1813) Photo B-45: Armrest (P6080018)

Console
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• The 385C uses the integrated seat and console. The The console on the 385B has the same function as the 385C.
operator can adjust the seat position with maintaining the
relative position with the joysticks.
• Both of the console and the seat are mounted to the cab
floor via the suspension. This type of design attenuates the
vibration transmitted from the cab floor to the console and
seat.

Photo C-46: Integrated Seat and Console (385C Photo B-46: Integrated Seat and Console (P6080015)
CDSCF1809)

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Climate Control
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• Full automatic positive ventilation climate control is • Full automatic positive ventilation climate control is
used to the 385C. used to the 385C.
• Four air outlets are provided. • Four air outlets are provided.
• The climate control panel is located on the right • The climate control panel is located on the left console.
console. This layout has the risk of water damage from rain/snow if
the excavator is operated with the door open.

Photo C-47: Climate Control Panel (385C CDSCF1781) Photo B-47: Climate Control Panel (P6080204)

Storage
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

Two storage spaces for the small articles such as a pencil and One storage space for the small articles such as the pencil
a cellular phone are provided. One storage space is situated and a cellular phone is provided to the left rear of the cab.
on the left console just under the armrest and another one is
positioned rear on the right console.

Photo C-48: Storage Space on Left Console (385C Photo B-48: Storage Space (P6080003)
CDSCF1773)

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Photo C-49: Storage space on Right Console (385C
CDSCF1749)

Lunch Box
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• A large capacity of the lunch box, which dimensions are • A large capacity of the lunch box with lid is provided to
475mm in width, 485mm in length and 240mm in depth rear of the cab. The dimensions are 330mm in width, 360mm
is provided. in height and 250mm in depth, which is slightly smaller than
• The lid is also provided as an attachment. the 385C.
• The lid is provided as standard.

Photo C-50: Lunch Box without Cover (385C Photo B-50: Lunch Box with Cover (P608004)
CDSCF1762)

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Photo C-51: Lunch box with Lid Cover (325D
100PENTAX IMGP1508)
Photo B-51: Lunch Box (Cover Open) (P608005)

Durability
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

Cab Shell
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

The bolt-on FOGS can be installed to the cab without any The bolt-on FOGS can be installed to the cab without any
modifications. modifications.

Photo C-52: Cab with Head Guard (385C CDSCF1824) Photo B-52: Cab with Head Guard (BDSCF.907)

Track Frame
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• The track frame is bolted to the carbody with 11 The track frame on the 385B has the same features and the
units/leg of M36 bolts. same dimensions as the 385C.
• The track frame is made by pressing the steel plate of
the thickness of 18.5mm and is the box construction.
This design provides excellent rigidity against bending
stress and twisting stress.

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• The dimensions of the track frame are 475mm in height
and 670mm in width.

Photo C-53: Track Frame (385C CDSCF0072) Photo B-53: Track Frame (BDSCF0095)

Sprocket
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• The sprocket has 23 teeth. The diameter is 952mm. The sprocket on the 385B has the same features as the 385C.
• The sprocket is bolted to the final drive with 28 units of
the M30 bolts.

Photo C-54: Sprocket (385C CDSCF0079) Photo B-54: Sprocket (BDSCF0112)

Track Link
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• The link pitch is 260mm. • The link pitch is 260mm which is the same length as the
• The GLT-4 lubricated track link by which its life is 385C.
dramatically extended is used to the 385C. • The 385B uses the Bellville seals, not the GLT-4.
Grease in the link will be disappeared in a shorter time than

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the GLT-4.

Photo C-55: Track Link with GLT-4 (385C CDSCF0075) Photo B-55: Track Link with Bellville Seal (P6070034)

Product Comparison Section - Link Dimensions

Make Caterpillar Komatsu


Model 385C
English English
Heading Metric Value Unit Unit Metric Value Unit Unit
Value Value
Lin Pitch 260 mm 10.24 in 260 mm 10.24 in
Link Height 155.1 mm 6.11 in 155.2 mm 6.11 in
Link Width 73.9 mm 2.91 in 73.5 mm 2.89 in
Link Pin Diameter 55 mm 2.17 in 55 mm 2.17 in
Link Pin Bushing Diameter 85 mm 3.35 in 85 mm 3.35 in

Piping for Travel Motors


Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

The travel motor piping is protected by the cover from the As the same as the 385C, the travel motor piping is protected
damage. by the cover from the damage.

Photo C-56: Piping for Travel Motor (385C CDSCF1511)

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Photo B-56: Piping for Travel Motor (P6070060)

Carbody
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• Using the thicker plates to the vertical plates (center and The carbody on the 385B has the same features as the 385C.
leg) are the feature of the 385C carbody.
• The upper plate is made of the one piece of the steel
plate. This design allows the carbody to transmitting the
stress from the upper structure to the track frame/ground,
smoothly.

Photo C-57: Carbody (385C CDSCF0086) Photo B-57: Carbody (P6070085)

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Product Comparison Section - Carbody Dimensions

Make Caterpillar
Model
Metric English Metric English
Heading Unit Unit Unit Unit
Value Value Value Value
Top Plate(Leg) 45.1 mm 1.78 in 45 mm 1.77 in
Top Plate(Center) 45.1 mm 1.78 in 45 mm 1.77 in
Vertical Plate(Center) 50.6 mm 1.99 in 50.6 mm 1.99 in
Vertical Plate(Leg) 45.3 mm 1.78 in 45.2 mm 1.78 in
Bottom Plate 41.2 mm 1.62 in 40 mm 1.57 in
Carbody Height 475 mm 18.70 in 472 mm 18.58 in

Swing Frame
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• The main rails are the box construction for whole The swing frame on the 385B provides the same features ans
length. the 385C.
• Tow main rails are integrated with one thicker lower
plate by welding. Then, this integrated structure is as one,
and becomes the primary structure of the swing frame. This
design has the advantage to increasing the rigidity of the
swing frame.
• The skirt is also the box construction to increase the
strength of the swing frame
• Following is the plate thickness of the primary
structure:

Photo C-58: Swing Frame (385C CDSCF1659) Photo B-58: Swing Frame (P07-03)

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Skirt Plate mm 5.2 Skirt Plate mm 5.3
Skirt Height mm 300 Skirt Height mm 300
Turn Table Plate mm 41.2 Turn Table Plate Thickness mm 40.6
Thickness(Front) (Front)
Turn Table Plate Thickness mm 25.5 Turn Table Plate Thickness mm 25.3
(Rear) (Rear)

Main Beam
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• The main rails are the box construction for whole The main rails on the 385B have the same features as the
length. 385C.
• Two main rails are integrated with the steel pipe to
increase rigidity. The dimension of the pipe is 302mm in
diameter and the plate thickness is 25.4mm.
• Following is the plate thickness of the main rails:

Photo C-59: Main Beam (385C CDSCF1659)

Front Half (Box Construction) Photo B-59: Main Beam (P07-03)

Vertical Plates mm 30.5+30.7 Front Half (Box Construction)


Horizontal Plate mm 31.3
Width of Box Construction mm 272 Vertical Plates mm 30.5+30.5
Rear Half (Box Construction) Horizontal Plate mm 29.9
Width of Box Construction mm 273
Vertical Plates mm 20.4+20.2 Rear Half (I Channel Construction)
Horizontal Plate mm 31.4
Width of Box Construction mm 272 Vertical Plates mm 20.4+19.9
Horizontal Plate mm 30.0
Width of Horizontal Plate mm 273

Swing Bearing
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

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• The dimensions of the outer race are 1952mm in The swing bearing of the 385B has the same features as the
diameter and 165mm in height. 385C.
• The outer race is bolted to the swing frame with 48units
of the M30 bolt.
• The dimension of the inner race is 1752mm in diameter.
This means that the 385C uses thicker outer race. The
thickness of the outer race is 100mm.
• In addition, the cross roller bearing is used to the 385C.
The cross roller bearing features longer life than the ball
bearing because the roller touches the inner race and the
outer race with lines, not points.

Photo C-60: Swing Bearing (385C CDSCF0089) Photo B-60: Swing Bearing (P05-05)

Clearance Between Track and Upper Frame


Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

The clearance between shoe lug and the skirt is 195mm. The clearance between shoe lug and the skirt should be the
same as the 385C because of the same design.

Photo C-61: Clearance between Track and Upper Frame Photo B-61: Clearance between Track and Upper Frame

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(385C CDSCF0092) (P6070035)

Weld Length
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

The track frame is bolted on the carbody with 11 M36 bolts. The track frame is bolted to the carbody with 11 M36 bolts
which is the same as the 385C.

Photo C-62: Bolted Joint Track Frame (385C CDSCF1504) Photo B-62: Bolted Joint Track Frame (P6070053)

Stick
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• The stick is designed to use thinner plates with larger The stick on the 385B is designed with the same policy as the
cross section area. This design allows the stick to reduce its 385C stick. The features and performance are the same as the
weight while maintaining the strength. 385C.

Stick Dimensions Stick Dimensions


Upper Plate Front mm 16.1 Upper Plate Front mm 16.3
Thickness Rear mm 30 Thickness Rear mm 30
Side Plate Front mm 30.4 Side Plate Front mm 30.4
Thickness Middle mm 14.2 Thickness Middle mm 14.5
Rear mm 22.8 Rear mm 22.5
Lower Plate Thickness mm 22.5 Lower Plate Thickness mm 22.5
Cross Section Width mm 496 Cross Section Width mm 500
Cross Section Height mm 770 Cross Section Height mm 770
Cross Section Area m3 0.3819 Cross Section Area m3 0.385

Stick Cylinder Dimensions Stick Cylinder Dimensions


Bore mm 220 Bore mm 220
Rod Diameter mm 150 Rod Diameter mm 150
Stroke m 2.262 Stroke m 2.262
Hyd. Pressure MPa 35 Hyd. Pressure MPa 35
Thrust x Stroke ton-m/1 unit 306.7 Thrust x Stroke ton-m/2 units 306.7

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(Cyl. Extended) (Cyl. Extended)
Thrust x Stroke ton-m/1 unit 164.1 Thrust x Stroke ton-m/2 units 164.1
(Cyl. Retracted) (Cyl. Retracted)

Photo C-63: Stick (385C CDSCF1636) Photo B-63: Stick (P329004)

Boom
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• The boom is designed to use thinner plates with larger The boom on the 385B is designed with the same policy as
cross section area. This design allows the boom to reduce its the 385C boom. The features and performance are the same
weight while maintaining the strength. as the 385C.
• Each of the upper plate, lower plate and side plate
consist of three pieces to reduce boom weight while
maintaining strength because various plate thickness can be
selected to meet various stress.
• The boom nose is made with the fabricated material to
reduce boom weight.

Photo B-65: Boom (BDSCF1679)


Photo C-65: Boom (385C CDSCF1545)

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Boom Dimensions
Boom Dimensions Upper Plate Front mm 16.5
Upper Plate Front mm 16.3 Thickness Middle mm 25.2
Thickness Middle mm 25.1 Rear mm 30.4
Rear 30.4 Side Plate Front mm 18.0
Side Plate Front mm 18.2 Thickness Middle mm 25.2
Thickness Middle mm 25.3 Rear mm 30.5
Rear mm 29.2 Lower Plate Front mm 22
Lower Plate Front mm 22.2 Thickness Middle mm 22.2
Thickness Middle mm 22.3 Rear mm 25.4
Rear mm 24.8 Cross Section Width mm 660
Cross Section Width mm 660 Cross Section Height mm 1168
Cross Section Height mm 1170 Cross Section Area m3 0.7709
Cross Section Area m3 0.7722
Boom Cylinder Dimensions
Boom Cylinder Dimensions Bore mm 210
Bore mm 210 Rod Diameter mm 145
Rod Diameter mm 145 Stroke m 1.967
Stroke m 1.967 Hyd. Pressure MPa 35
Hyd. Pressure MPa 35 Thrust x Stroke (Cyl. Extended) ton-m/2 486
Thrust x Stroke ton-m/2 units 486 units
(Cyl. Extended) Thrust x Stroke (Cyl. Retracted) ton-m/2 254.3
Thrust x Stroke ton-m/2 units 254.3 units
(Cyl. Retracted)

Boom Cross Section


Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

Boom Cross Section


 0.7722  

The boom cross section area is 0.7709m3.
The boom cross section area is 0.7722m3.

Photo B-66: Boom (BDSCF1679)


Photo C-66: Boom (385C CDSCF1545)
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Boom Foot
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• Boom
 Boom Foot 
  
• The boom widens smoothly toward the boom foot. This The boom foot on the 385B has the same design and same
design allows the load to be smoothly transmitted to the dimensions as the 385C.
boom foot without concentration of the load.
• The boom foot width is 1240mm and the boom foot pin
is 150mm in diameter.

Photo C-67: Boom Foot (385C CDSCF1658) Photo B-67: Boom Foot (P6080050)

Boom Lights
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• Dual lights are situated to both side of the boom. All lights equipped on the 385C are also provided to the
• Also, storage box mounted light and cab lights are 385B.
provided. In addition, the frame mounted working light is
situated under the cab.

Photo C-68: Boom Lights (385C CDSCF1565) Photo B-68: Boom Lights (P3290043)

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Photo C-69: Boom Lights (385C CDSCF1566) Photo B-69: Boom Lights (P3290048)

Bucket
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative
• Cutting Edge 81mm
The plate thickness of the 385B bucket could not be
measured because it has been worn away; Also, the bucket is
reinforced by the customer. However, dimensions of the
385B bucket are the same as the 385C.

Photo C-70: Bucket (385C CDSCF1627) Photo B-70: Bucket (BDSCF0034)

Bottom Guarding
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• Whole area of the bottom of the upper structure is As the same as the 385C, the bottom of the upper structure is
completely protected with the bottom guards. completely protected with the bottom guards.

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Photo C-71: Bottom Guards (385C CDSCF1728) Photo B-71: Bottom Guards (P6080089)

Product Comparison Section - Bottom Guarding

Make Caterpillar Compared To


Model Machine Model # Machine Model #
Metric English Metric English
Heading Unit Unit Unit Unit
Value Value Value Value
Below Radiator 5.2 mm 0.20 in 4.6 mm 0.18 in
Below Oil Cooler mm 0.00 in mm 0.00 in
Below Engine 4.3 mm 0.17 in 4.7 mm 0.19 in
Below Control Valves 5.3 mm 0.21 in 4.6 mm 0.18 in
Below Pump 5.3 mm 0.21 in 4.6 mm 0.18 in
Below Fuel Tank 3.4 mm 0.13 in 3.4 mm 0.13 in
Below Hydraulic Oil Tank 5.3 mm 0.21 in 5.1 mm 0.20 in
Below Swivel Joint 5.5 mm 0.22 in 4.7 mm 0.19 in

Travel Motor Projection


Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• With equipping the 650mm shoe, the projection of the • With equipping the 750mm shoe, the projection of the
travel motor cover is 155mm for upper part and 112mm for travel motor cover is 120mm for upper part and 22mm
lower part from the shoe width. for lower part from the shoe width.
• The final drive does not project from the shoe width. • The final drive does not project from the shoe width.

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Photo C-72: Travel Motor Projection (385C CDSCF1508) Photo B-72: Travel Motor Projection (BDSCF0116)

Photo C-73: Final Drive Projection (385C CDSCF1510) Photo B-73: Final Drive Projection (BDSCF0115)

Wire Harness Protection(  )

Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

The wire harnesses are protected with the Yellow Blade. The The wire harnesses on the 385B are also protected with the
Yellow Blade has a resistance to wear and excels in drainage Yellow Blade.
of the wire harness. The Yellow Blade is also used in the
engine compartment because of its excellent heat-resistance.

Photo C-74: Yellow Blade (385C CDSCF1986) Photo B-74: Yellow Blade (BDSCF0916)

Hose Clamp(  )

Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

The hoses for the air, coolant and hydraulic system are As the same as the 385C, the hoses for the air, coolant and
fastened with two spring clams to prevent leakage in the long hydraulic system are fastened with two spring clams to
time. prevent leakage in the long time.

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Photo B-76: Hose Clamp for Hydraulic System
Photo C-76: Hose Clamp for Hydraulic System (385C (BDSCF0913)
CDSCF1888)

Photo B-77: Hose Clamp for Air System (BDSCF0908)


Photo C-77: Hose Clamp for Air System (385C
CDSCF1949)

Serviceability
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

Easy to Troubleshoot
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

Pressure Taps The 385B also provides the pressure taps.


Because the pressure taps are provided on the hydraulic
system, the hydraulic pressure can be measured without
disconnecting the hydraulic hoses. The pressure tap also
reduces time and prevents oil spillage when pressure
measurement.

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Photo C-78: Pressure Tap (prepro 385c_0186)
Photo B-78: Pressure Tap (P6080120)

E.T Connectors E.T. Connectors


The 385C provides three E.T connectors, in the cab, on the Two E.T. connectors, in the engine compartment and on the
relay panel and in the engine compartment. relay panel, are provided. But, the 385B does not provide it
The E.T connectors make the diagnosis without in the cab.
disconnecting the connectors possible. The ET connectors are
also used for updating the controller.

Photo C-79: ET Connector on Relay Panel (385C


CDSCF1837) Photo B-79: E.T. connector on the Relay Panel (P6080174)

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Photo C-80: ET Connector in Engine Compartment (385C Photo B-80: E.T. Connector in the Engine Compartment
CDSCF1962) (P6080158)

Photo C-81: ET Connector in the Cab (Prepro 385c_0412)

Hydraulic System
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

Centralized Maintenance
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• The maintenance platform is provided on the upper The maintenance platform is also provided on the 385B. The
structure. Most of the maintenance points on the upper 385B has the same service features as the 385C.
structure can access from the maintenance platform and
catwalks.
• Because most of maintenance points are situated above
from the service floor, the service person can access the
maintenance point without having uncomfortable posture.

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Photo C-82: Service Platform (385C CDSCF1857) Photo B-82: Service Platform (BDSCF0948)

Monitor Service Features


Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• The monitor has the capability to memorize and display The monitor on the 385B does not have the function to
the replacement interval for twelve kinds of filters and fluids, memorize the replacement interval of any filter and fluid.
in language.
• In addition, the monitor has the capability to
memorize/display the accumulated working hours for engine,
pump, travel motor and tools. This information will be useful
for preventive maintenance.

Photo C-83: Maintenance information (Japanese) (385C Photo B-83: Monitor (P6080208)
CDSCF2029)

Swing Motor Accessibility


Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• Level check and refilling of the swing reduction oil can The swing motors on the 385B have the same features as the
be accomplished from the upper deck. 385C.
• Because the 385C uses two swing motors, the draining
can be accomplished from the boom foot and under the

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machine. The drain cock is provided to drain the oil without
tools.

Photo C-84: Swing Reduction Gear Oil Drain Cock (385C Photo B-84: Swing Reduction Gear Oil Drain Cock
CDSCF1917) (BDSCF0917)

Swing Gear Lubrication


Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

The swing gear inspection hole is situated in the battery The swing gear inspection hole on the 385B is situated the
compartment. And operator can access the inspection hole by same place as the 385C.
lining his belly on the battery

Photo B-85: Swing Gear Inspection Hole (BDSCF0916)


Photo C-85: Swing Gear Inspection Hole (385C 183NIKON
DSCN0351)

Service Intervals
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative
• In general, the 385C features longer maintenance Maintenance interval of the 385B is the same as the 385C.

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intervals.

Product Comparison Section - Service Intervals

Make Caterpillar
Model
Heading Hours Hours
Front Pin Greasing - Bucket Linkage 50 50
Front Pin Greasing - Other Pins 50 50
Swing Bearing 250 250
Greasing Swing Gear 2000 2000
Engine Oil 500 500
Coolant 3000 3000
Hydraulic Oil 5000 5000
Swing Drive Oil 1000 1000
Fluid change Final Drive Oil 2000 2000
Engine Oil Filter 500 500
Hydraulic Return Filter 1000 1000
Hydraulic Pilot Filter 1000 1000
Hydraulic Pump Drain Filter 1000 1000
Hydraulic Motor Drain Filter 1000 1000
Fine filtration Filter 500 500
Fuel Filter - Primary 250 250
Filter change Fuel Filter - Secondary 500 500

Maintenance of Cooling Package


Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• The OCS (Oil Cooler Separate) Cooling unit is used to The cooling unit on the 385B has the same features as the
the 385C. 385C except the reverse fan function. The reverse fan
• Because the oil cooler is independent from the radiator, function is not provided on the 385B.
this design has the advantages not only improving the
cooling efficiency, but also accessing the cooling unit easily.
• The radiator screen is provided as an attachment.
• The reverse fan function is provided as an attachment.

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Photo C-87: Separate Cooling System (385C CDSCF1846) Photo B-87: Separated Cooling Unit (P08-05)

Refueling
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• The fuel tank has the capacity of 1240liter. • The 385B has the same capacity of the fuel tank as the
• According to the production study, the 385C consumes 385C.
the fuel of ??liter/hour. This means that the 385C can work • The 385B consumed the fuel of ??liter/hours by the
for ??hours continuously. production study. The 385B can work for ??hours
• In addition to the sight level gauge, the float type level continuously from this result.
gauge is provided to the strainer. This helps the service • The sight gauge is provided to the fuel tank, but the
person to confirm fuel level during refueling. float type level gauge is not provided to the strainer.

Photo C-88: Fuel Cap with Fuel Gauge (385C Photo B-88: Fuel Cap without Float type Level Gauge
CDSCF1902) (P6080134)

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Photo C-89: Fuel Level Gauge (385C CDSCF1900)

Air Filter
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• The 385C uses the double element type radial air filter The air filter on the 385B has the same features as the 385C.
with pre-cleaner.
• The dust sensor is provided to the air filter. When the
filter is plugged, warning information is displayed on the
monitor.

Photo C-90: Air Cleaner (Elements removed) (385C Photo B-90: Air Cleaner (Elements removed) (P14-11)
CDSCF1873)

Hydraulic Filters (filtration)


Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• In addition to the return filters (capsule filters), the Filters on the 385B have the same features as the 385C.
pump drain filter, motor drain filter and pilot filter are
provided to extend life of the hydraulic components and
hydraulic oil.

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• Furthermore, the fine filtration filter, which has the
capacity to filter more minute contamination, is equipped to
this vehicle.
• The S.O.S sampling port is provided on the pilot pump.

Photo C-91: Pilot Filter and Pump Drain Filter (385C Photo B-91: Pilot Filter and Pump Drain Filter (P6070099)
CDSCF1889)

Photo B-92: Motor Drain Filter and Return Filter


Photo C-92: Motor Drain Filter and Return Filter (385C (P6080126)
CDSCF1862)

Photo C-94: SOS Sampling Port (385C CDSCF1890) Photo B-94: SOS Sampling Port (P6070100)
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Engine Oil Filters
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• The engine oil filter is situated on the engine to The engine oil filter on the 385B has the same features as the
accessing from the platform, easily. 385C.
• The S.O.S. sampling port is provided on the engine oil
filter base.

Photo C-95: Engine Oil Filter with SOS Sampling Port Photo B-95: Engine Oil filter with SOS Sampling Port
(385C CDSCF1937) (P6080150)

Capsule Filter
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• The return filter is a capsule type. Three capsule filters The return filters on the 385B have the same features as the
are used to the 385C and filter cartridges are the common to 385C.
the mid size excavators.
• The filter can be replaced without making hands dirty.
• The shutter provided to the bottom at the filter is shut
when removed to prevent spillage of the oil. The shutter also
prevents dirt and contaminations from going into the filter.

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Photo C-96: Capsule type Return Filter (385C CDSCF1997) Photo B-96: Capsule type Return Filter (P6080133)

Engine Access
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• The maintenance points for the engine are centralized. The 385B provide the same features for accessing the engine
• Most of maintenance points can be accessed from the as the 385C.
platform. And most of maintenance points are located above
from the service floor.

Photo C-97: Engine Access (385C CDSCF1928) Photo B-97: Engine Access (P6080142)

Final Drive
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

One drain port and one level check/refill port are provided. One drain port and one level check/refill port are provided.

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Photo C-98: Final Drive (385C CDSCF0079) Photo B-97: Final Drive (BDSCF0112)

Fuel System
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• Large capacity of the priming pump is provided in the The fuel system on the 385B has the same features as the
engine compartment. 385C.
• Because the priming pump is situated above from the
platform, the operator/service person can easily access and
operate it from the platform.

Photo B-99: Fuel Priming Pump (P6080151)

Photo C-99: Fuel Priming Pump (385C CDSCF1934)

Water Separator
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

The water separator is situated the right side of the machine The water separator on the 385B has the same features as the
and can access from the catwalk, easily. 385C.

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Photo C-101: Water Separator (385C CDSCF1863) Photo B-101: Water Separator (P6080130)

Cab Air Filters


Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• The air filter for circulated air is situated under the The cab air filters on the 385B have the same features as the
lunch box. Any tool is not required when detaching and 385C.
attaching the filter.
• The air filter for fresh air is located to the back of the
cab shell, and is accessible from the battery compartment.

Photo C-102: Air Filter for Circulated Air (385C Photo B-102: Air Filter for Circulated Air (BDSCF0945)
CDSCF1761)

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Photo C-103: Air Filter for Fresh Air (385C CDSCF1838) Photo B-103: Air filter for Fresh Air (BDSCF0946)

Access Panels
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

Anti-Skid Deck
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

• The new type anti-skid plates are used in the areas


which are accessed frequently on the upper deck to prevent • The anti-skid plates are also used on the 385B.
slippage. • Because the knot on plate is sharp, the knee is painful
• The anti-skid plate provides more effect to prevent the when the knee put on the anti-skid plate.
slippage than the sandpaper. Also, the effect of the anti-skid
plate can last linger than the sand paper.

Photo B-104: Anti-skid Panel (P07-11)

Photo C-104: New Anti-Skid Panel (385C CDSCF1921)

Access to Cab and Upper Deck


Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

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• The handgrips and steps are provided to the both side • The 385B has the same features for accessing to the cab
for accessing the cab and upper deck. and upper deck as the 385C.
• The maintenance points on the upper deck are • The steps on the track frame are narrower than the
centralized to the platform. Most of periodic maintenances 385C.
are accomplished from the platform.
• The operator/service person can access the upper deck
from the left side catwalk by using the ladder which is
provided behind the cab.

Photo C-105: Step and Assist to accessing the cab (385C Photo B-105: Step and Assist to accessing the cab
CDSCF1596) (P6070074)

Photo C-106: Steps and Ladder to accessing upper deck Photo B-106: Step and Ladder to accessing upper deck
(385C CDSCF1598) (P6070084)

Service From Upper Deck


Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

Cat Walk
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

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The catwalks are provided to both sides. Also the 385B provides the catwalks to both sides.

Photo B-107: Left Side Catwalk (P07-16)


Photo C-107: Left Side Catwalk (385C CDSCF1601)

Photo B-108: Right Side Catwalk (P6080130)


Photo C-108: Right Side Catwalk (385C CDSCF1608)

Fan Belt Re-tensioning


Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

Automatic Belt Tensioning System

• Because the 385C uses hydraulically driven fan motors, The 385B also does not require manual belt-retensioning
the fan belt is not required to the C18 engine. because the cooling fans are driven hydraulically and the
• Because the automatic belt re-tensioning system is automatic belt re-tensioning mechanism is provided.
provided to the accessory belt, re-tensioning is not required
to the C18 engine.

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Photo C-109: Hydraulically Driven Cooling Fan (385C Photo B-109: Hydraulically Driven Cooling Fan
CDSCF1956) (P6080160)

Track Frame Cleaning


Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

The upper face of the track frame is horizontal. The upper face of the track frame is horizontal.

Photo C-110: Upper face of the Track Frame (385C Photo B-110: Upper face of the Track Frame (P6070043)
CDSCF1505)

Environment
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

The C18 engine on the 385C meets EPA Tier III Emission The CAT 3456 engine on the 385B meets EPA Tier II
Regulations. Emission Regulations.

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Photo C-111: C18 Engine (385C CDSCF1946) Photo B-111: CAT 3456 Engine (P6080142)

Environment Overview
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

Technical Specifications
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

Engine
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

Metric
Caterpillar Caterpillar
Unit
385C/385CL 385B/385BL
Model CAT C18 CAT 3456
Type DI, ATAAC DI, ATAAC
kW 390 382
Horsepower PS 530 520
HP 523 513
Dsiplacement Liter 18.1 15.8
N-m 2493 2390
Max torque
rpm 1400 1600
# of Cylinder 6 6

English
Caterpillar Caterpillar
Unit
385C/385CL 385B/385BL
Model CAT C18 CAT 3456
Type DI, ATAAC DI, ATAAC
kW 390 382
Horsepower PS 530 520
HP 523 513
Dsiplacement in3 1104.5 964.2
lb.ft 1838.7 1762.8
Max torque
rpm 1400 1600
# of Cylinder 6 6

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Weights
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

Metric
CaterPillar Caterpillar
Unit
385C 385CL 385B 385BL
Operating Wg kg 81510 83930 81560 83310
Type Of Undercarriage STD-VG LC-VG STD-VG LC-VG
Boom Length m 8.4 8.4 8.4 8.4
Stick Length m 3.7 3.7 3.7 3.7
Bucket Capacity m3 3.5 3.5 3.5 3.5
Shoe Width mm 650 750 750 750
Counterweight ton 11.6 11.6 11.6 11.6

English
CaterPillar Caterpillar
Unit
385C 385CL 385B 385BL
Operating Wg lb 179700 185030 179810 183670
Type Of Undercarriage STD-VG LC-VG STD-VG LC-VG
Boom Length ft 27'7" 27'7" 27'7" 27'7"
Stick Length ft 12'2" 12'2" 12'2" 12'2"
Bucket Capacity yd3 4.58 4.58 4.58 4.58
Shoe Width in 26 30 30 30
Counterweight lb 25573 25573 25573 25570

Service Refill Capacities


Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

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Metric
Caterpillar Caterpillar
Unit
385C/385CL 385B/385BL
Fuel Tank Liter 1240 1240
Hydraulic Tank Liter 810 810
Hydraulic System Liter 995 995
Coolant Liter 101 101
Engine Oil Pan Liter 65 80
Swing Drive(Each) Liter 19 19
Final Drive(Each) Liter 21 21
Pump Drive Lter
English
Caterpillar Caterpillar
Unit
385C/385CL 385B/385BL
Fuel Tank Gal 328 328
Hydraulic Tank Gal 214 214
Hydraulic System Gal 263 263
Coolant Gal 27 27
Engine Oil Pan Gal 17 21
Swing Drive(Each) Gal 5.02 5.02
Final Drive(Each) Gal 5.55 5.55
Pump Drive Gal 0 0

Standards
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

Hydraulic System
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

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Metric
Caterpillar Caterpillar
Unit
385C/385CL 385B/385BL
Type x # of Unit 2 2
Main Pump
Max Flow (Total) Lit/min 950 950
Type x # of Unit 1 1
Pilot Pump
Max Flow (Total) Lit/min 87 87
Swing Type x # of Unit 1 1
Pump Max Flow (Total) Lit/min 460 460
Cooling Type x # of Unit 1 1
Pump Max Flow (Total) Lit/min 50 50
Imprement(STD) KPa 32000 32000
Imprement(Pressure Up) KPa 35000 35000
Relief Swing KPa 28700 28700
Pressure Travel KPa 35000 35000
Pilot KPa 4120 4120
Cooling KPa -- --

English
Caterpillar Caterpillar
Unit
385C/385CL 385B/385BL
Type x # of Unit 2 2
Main Pump
Max Flow (Total) Gal/min 251 251
Type x # of Unit 1 1
Pilot Pump
Max Flow (Total) Gal/min 23 23
Type x # of Unit 1 1
Pilot Pump
Max Flow (Total) Gal/min 121.5 121.5
Cooling Type x # of Unit 1 1
Pump Max Flow (Total) Gal/min 13.2 13.2
Imprement(STD) psi 4641 4641
Imprement(Pressure Up) psi 5076 5076
Relief Swing psi 4163 4163
Pressure Travel psi 5076 5076
Pilot psi 598 598
Cooling psi -- -

Drive
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

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Metric
Caterpillar Caterpillar
Unit
385C 385CL 385B 385BL
Type of Undercarriage STD-VG LC-VG STD-VG LC-VG
High km/h 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5
Travel Speed Mid km/h -- -- -- --
Low km/h 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8
Max. Drawbarpull kN 592 592 592 592
Gradeabiity %

English
Caterpillar Caterpillar
Unit
385C 385CL 385B 385BL
Type of Undercarriage STD-VG LC-VG STD-VG LC-VG
High mph 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8
Travel Speed Mid mph -- -- -- --
Low mph 1.7 1.7 1.7 1.7
Max. Drawbarpull lb 133090 133090 133090 133090
Gradeabiity % 0 0 0 0

Swing Mechanism
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

Metric
Caterpillar Caterpillar
Unit
385C/385CL 385B/385BL
Swing Speed rpm 6.2 6.2
Swing Torque KN.m 260.24 260.24

English
Caterpillar Caterpillar
Unit
385C/385CL 385B/385BL
Swing Speed rpm 6.2 6.2
Swing Torque lb-ft 191940 191940

Track
Caterpillar Competitive/Comparative

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Caterpillar Caterpillar
Unit
385C 385CL 385B 385BL
STD-VG LC-VG STD-VG LC-VG
mm 5840 6360 5840 6360
mm 4600 5120 4600 5120
mm 3510 3510 3510 3510
mm 2750 2750 2750 2750
mm 850 850 850 850
8 9 8 9
3 3 3 3

Caterpillar Caterpillar
Unit
385C 385CL 385B 385BL
STD-VG LC-VG STD-VG LC-VG
ft-in 19'2" 20'10" 19'2" 20'10"
ft-in 15'1" 16'10" 15'1" 16'10"
ft-in 11'6" 11'6" 11'6" 11'6"
ft-in 9'0" 9'0" 9'0" 9'0"
ft-in 2'9" 2'9" 2'9" 2'9"
8 9 8 9
3 3 3 3

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