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ATTENDANCE
Voting Members: Hoffmann, R. Associate Members:
Neven Krstulovic, Chairman Hoptay, J. Garrison, J.
Berner, D Jiang, D. Hoang, K.
Hjorteset, K. Lombardi, N.
1. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Krstulovic.
3. ADJURNED 5 PM
Respectfully submitted,
Neven Krstulovic-Opara
Chairman, ACI 376
“bt” should be “by”. Suggest running spell check on entire Brannan Brannan agreed to change.
document to identify errors.
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INTRODUCTION & CHAPTER I – GENERAL
1st Ballot – 5/19 – 6/18/2008 &
Full Committee Houston Meeting on 6 / 19 – 20 / 2008
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Refer to Word file for comments (I don’t have the WORD Pawski, See above.
file) Rolf
(INTRODUCTION - paragraph 2) “However, the usefulness of these references to the used of Hoptay, Meier, Hoptay, Berner, Douglas, DJ, Hoffmann,
NFPA Standard 59A contains provisions for the use of NFPA 59A is somewhat limited by virtue of the fact that none of Joseph Pawski, NKO, Howe, Hjorteset, Brannan, Jamel – 12
reinforced concrete and prestressed concrete for two them provides guidelines specifically tailored to the use of of 12
principal applications: Impoundment (secondary concrete at cryogenic temperatures.”
containment in conjunction with a metallic primary “used” should be “use” Brannan _________________________
container) and storage (primary containment). The Delete “virtue of”
Delete “them” replace with “these references”
references cited by NFPA 59A for the use of reinforced (INTRODUCTION - paragraph 2)
Change “references to the used of NFPA 59A” to Hjorteset,
concrete/prestressed concrete for these applications are ACI Kare NFPA Standard 59A contains provisions for the use of
“references to NFPA 59A”
318, ACI372R and ACI 373R. However, the usefulness of reinforced concrete and prestressed concrete for two
these references to the used of NFPA 59A is somewhat principal applications: Impoundment (secondary
limited by virtue of the fact that none of them provides containment in conjunction with a metallic primary
guidelines specifically tailored to the use of concrete at container) and storage (primary containment). The
cryogenic temperatures. This limitation was the impetus references cited by NFPA 59A for the use of
for the request by NFPA Committee 59A that ACI reinforced concrete/prestressed concrete for these
undertake the preparation of a standard to address this applications are ACI 318, ACI372R and ACI 373R.
particular need. However, the usefulness of these references to the
used of NFPA 59A is somewhat limited by virtue of
the fact that none of them these references provide
provides guidelines specifically tailored to the use of
concrete at cryogenic temperatures. This limitation
was the impetus for the request by NFPA Committee
59A that ACI undertake the preparation of a standard
to address this particular need.
Include in the introduction references to where the Mash, Meier, Hoptay, Berner, Douglas, DJ, Hoffmann,
containment types are defined Keith Pawski, NKO, Howe, Hjorteset, Brannan, Jamel – 12
of 12
(INTRODUCTION - paragraph 3)
While the NFPA request was related specifically to the
containment of LNG, it was decided that ACI Code and
Commentary address the use of concrete for other
refrigerated liquids as well, ranging in operating
temperatures from –20o F (-29o C) to –265o F (-165o C).
(INTRODUCTION - paragraph 4) “This makes the code and commentary roughly analogous to the Hoptay, Comment author: Hoptay editorial - Agree .
This makes the code and commentary roughly analogous to American Petroleum Institute (API) Standard 620, which governs Joseph
the American Petroleum Institute (API) Standard 620, the Design and Construction of Large, Welded, Low Pressure __________________
which governs the Design and Construction of Large, Storage
Welded, Low Pressure Storage Tanks. This makes the code and commentary roughly
analogous to the American Petroleum Institute (API)
Standard 620, which governs the Design and
Construction of Large, Welded, Low Pressure Storage
Tanks.
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(INTRODUCTION - paragraph 5) “The most common use of reinforced concrete and prestressed Hoptay, Agreed this is editorial change 11 of 11 committee
The most common use of reinforced concrete and concrete in cryogenic storage applications is for secondary Joseph members.
prestressed concrete in cryogenic storage applications is for containment around metal primary storage tanks – although Meier, Hoptay, Berner, Douglas, DJ, Hoffmann,
secondary containment around metal primary storage tanks there are a number of installations, in North America and in Pawski, NKO, Howe, Hjorteset, Brannan
– although there are a number of installations, in North Europe, where prestressed concrete has been used for primary
Resolves Hoptay and Brannan comments.
containment that is with the tank contents with the concrete in
America and in Europe, where prestressed concrete has direct contact with the concrete with the tank contents.”
been used for primary containment, that is with the concrete Add the following: Brannan _________________________________
in direct contact with the tank contents. “Interest in concrete containment of RLG has increased due to
the robust character of concrete structures, potential cost (INTRODUCTION - paragraph 5)
savings, potential schedule reduction, interest in sustainability, The most common use of reinforced concrete and
use of local labor and use of local materials.” prestressed concrete in cryogenic storage applications
is for secondary containment around metal primary
storage tanks. – although there are a number of
installations, Installations were built in North
America and in Europe during the 1960’s through
1980’s with prestressed concrete primary
containment., where prestressed concrete has been
used for primary containment, that is with the concrete
in direct contact with the tank contents. Renewed
interest in the use of concrete for primary containment
and the need for a code that addressed secondary
concrete containment has led to the development of
this Code.
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a) Secondary containment, which represents the most c) Secondary containment, which represents the most
widespread use of such structures; and widespread use of such structures; and
Pawski – editorial suggest listing
b) Primary containment. d) Primary containment. commonly stored RLG and their
storage temperatures, such as
Remove definition on the membrane containers: the following:
Membrane Container – a container that has a non- • Butane 30F (-0C), GLR
(i) Henceforth in this document, the term concrete is used to denote both 240:1
conventionally reinforced and prestressed concrete.
self-supporting thin layer (membrane) inner tank
that is supported through insulation by an outer • Ammonia -28F (-33C),
tank. GLR 980:1
• LPG - 50F (-45C), GLR
300:1
And introduce the following text • LNG -265F (-165C),
This Code does not include design of membrane tanks because GLR 600:1
construction and detailing requirements are not included. A • LOX -300F (-185C),
membrane tank has a non-self-supporting thin layer
• LIN -360F (-195C),
(membrane) inner tank that is supported through insulation by
an outer tank. With appropriate additional engineering GLR = gas-to-liquid ratio
analysis and justification, portions of this Code may be applied
to the structural design of concrete outer tank using both
primary and secondary tank criteria.
TG Houston – 8/7/08
Present: Lombardi, Hoffmann, Dale, Joe, Jeff,
Dajiu, Kim, Kare, NKO
Put into R1.0 Scope –
TG Houston – 8/7/08
Present: Lombardi, Hoffmann, Dale, Joe, Jeff,
Dajiu, Kim, Kare, NKO
(R1.0 - paragraph 4) Full Containment does contain the vapor generated which is Hoptay, Hoptay’s comment is found persuasive. Text is changed as shown
In a full containment tank system the primary container is an released through controlled venting. Joseph below.
open-top cylindrical tank designed only to contain the In a full containment tank system the primary container is n
refrigerated liquid under normal operating conditions. In this open-top cylindrical tank designed only to contain the
system the secondary container is a cylindrical wall with a vapor- refrigerated liquid under normal operating conditions. In
tight roof that spans over the inner tank. The roof may be metal, this system the secondary container is a cylindrical vapor-
concrete or a composite of the two materials. Under normal tight wall with a vapor-tight roof that spans over the inner
operating conditions, the secondary container protects the tank. The roof may be metal, concrete or a composite of the
primary top concrete wall serving two basic functions: Under two materials.
normal operating conditions it protects the primary container
from certain external hazards, while under conditions of Under normal operating conditions, the secondary container
accidental-spill it also contains the leakage from the primary protects the primary container top concrete wall serving two
container (usually up to or exceeding the full volume of the basic functions: Under normal operating conditions the
stored liquid) but not the vapor generated from such leakage. secondary container it and provides protection to protects
the primary container from certain external hazards., while
u Under conditions of accidental-spill conditions the
secondary container it also contains the leakage from the
primary container (usually up to or exceeding the full
volume of the stored liquid) but not and contains or controls
the vapor generated from such leakage.
In the last line delete the word “not” and replace with “contains or
Brannan
controls“ TG Houston – 8/7/08
Change the end of the last sentence to state " and will Howe, Present: Lombardi, Hoffmann, Dale, Joe, Jeff,
allow for the controlled venting of the vapor generated Thomas Dajiu, Kim, Kare, NKO
from such leakage
In a full containment tank system the primary container is n
open-top cylindrical tank designed only to contain the
refrigerated liquid under normal operating conditions. In
this system the secondary container is a cylindrical vapor-
tight wall with a vapor-tight roof that spans over the inner
tank. The roof may be metal, concrete or a composite of the
two materials.
(R1.0 - paragraphs 5) Strike Section c). Membrane tanks should not be Hoptay, Hoptay’s comment found persuasive. The entire
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In primary containment applications the concrete included since none of the following chapters have Joseph text has been removed.
structure may serve as: addressed the specific design requirements for this (R1.0 - paragraphs 5)
storage concept. In primary containment applications the concrete
a) The inner storage tank (with the inside face of the
structure may serve as:
concrete wall in contact with the stored product);
a) The inner storage tank (with the inside face of
b) Both the inner tank and the outer secondary
the concrete wall in contact with the stored
container; or
product);
c) As a single outer wall supporting an inner
b) Both the inner tank and the outer secondary
membrane system.
container; or
c) As a single outer wall supporting an inner
membrane system.
Hjorteset,
Merging of Appendix A and AA needs to take place.
Kare
Diagrams are generic and should be also covered with a
set of definitions regarding containment types. Mash,
These definitions shoul dbe consistent with say API 625? Keith
Or alternatively refer to API 625
See comments in Ch 1 first ballot document submitted Brannan,
above pertaining to Appendix AA Mike
Fig AA.7a thru 7c is adopted from BS 7777 which has be
withdrawn and replaced by EN 14620, Part 3, Concrete Hoff,
Components. Are these figures also in EN 14620? If so, George
change the titles to reflect the change.
See my response to Intro and Chapter 1 that describes
Hatfield,
the need to better align the various tank elevation
Alan
drawings with the narrative in Chapter 7.
Refer to Word file for comments (I don’t have the WORD Pawski,
file) Rolf
(R1.0 - paragraphs 6) For App AA Examples of membrane tanks should not be included since none Hoptay, Addressed in the negative on Figure 6.
For a detailed description of these categories and container types App = 15 of the previous chapters have addressed the specific design Joseph
see Appendix AA. Neg = 1 requirements for this storage concept. Hoptay withdraws this negative because of the change
App w com = 3 already introduced in figure 6.
BALLOT NOTE - Appendix AA is a separate document. When Abs = 3 I like all the figures but there are some edits required. Brannan
voting indicate which figure are to be merged with existing
Appendix A. Figure AA.2: Needs an item 12 with the bullet and lead under
number 7 (for example) indicating the open space between the
Which of the following figures in Appendix AA should be inner and outer walls.
merged with existing Appendix A: Label should be “Vented Space (variable)”.
a) Fig. AA.1 – Examples of concrete bund walls (dikes) for a
Figure AA.3: Item 6 label should be revised to; “Secondary
single-containment tank system.
Concrete Container (with vapor barrier). Delete the
b) Fig. AA.2 – Examples of concrete secondary containment “(Prestressed concrete).
walls for a double-containment tank system.
Figure AA.4 Needs same item 12 as in AA.2 Remove the term
c) Fig. AA.3 – Examples of concrete secondary containment
(prestressed concrete) from items 1 and 3
walls for a full-containment tank system.
d) Fig. AA.4 – Examples of concrete primary containment Figure AA.5: Re-label item 6 as in AA.3 revision above.
walls for a double-containment tank system.
Figure AA.6: Re-label item 6 as in AA.3 revision above.
e) Fig. AA.5 – Examples of concrete primary containment
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Anchored flexible –
Ch. 7 and / or Appendix A?? )
Cement mortar –