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- Do you need bottles?
- I have bottles.

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[street noise]

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Does anyone need...
You need bottles?

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What time? 4:15?

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The timekeepers are going
to give a signal.

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Okay.

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Everyone has bottles?
Okay.

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- You ready to go in?
- Let's go.

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There's a guard walking around
looking puzzled.

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I think he's trying to count
the number of people.

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I'm really nervous, man.

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- Let's start.
- Let's go, let's do it, go.

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- Mic check.
- Mic check!

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- Mic check.
- Mic check!

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- 100,000 dead.
- 100,000 dead!

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100,000 dead!

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- 100,000 dead!
- Don't do anything.

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You can't do anything as far as...

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- Temple of death.
- Temple of death!

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- Temple of money.
- Temple of money!

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- Temple of greed.
- Temple of greed!

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- Temple of Oxy.
- Temple of Oxy!

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- Sacklers lie.
- Sacklers lie!
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- Thousands die.
- Thousands die!

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- The Sacklers knew...
- The Sacklers knew...

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- Their pills would kill.
- Their pills would kill!

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They built this wing!

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- They killed this wing...
- Take this outside...

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Excuse me. No, excuse me...

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[screams, cheers]

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[applause]

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- Sacklers lie!
- People die!

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- Sacklers lie!
- People die!

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- Sacklers lie!
- People die!

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[chanting continues]

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[♪]
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[♪]

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It's easy to make
your life into stories.

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But it's harder to...
sustain real memories.

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What do you mean?

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Well, the difference between
the story and the real memory.

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The real experience has
a smell and is dirty,

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and is not wrapped up
in simple endings.

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[♪]

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The real memories
are what affects me now.

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[sound of slide projector]

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Things can appear
that you didn't want to see,

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where you're not safe.

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And even if you don't actually
unleash the memories,

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the effect is there.
It's in your body.

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[wind gusting]

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All right.

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[♪]

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[♪]

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It was a claustrophobic suburb.
"Don't let the neighbors know."

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My mother used to say that all the time.
It wasn't just an attitude.

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Actually, the neighbors did know,
we found out years later

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'cause there was so much
screaming in the house.

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Tell me about your sister.

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My mother insisted that Barbara speak
in full sentences at the age of one.

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And so she stopped talking
for at least a year and a half.

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Yeah, that was the first
act of rebellion by my sister.

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She would just
wash my hair or hold me,

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or these kind of things that you need
when you're a kid.

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And she knew how to do that,
even though

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she hadn't been mothered
in that way.

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She made me aware
at a very young age

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about the banality and
deadening grip of suburbia.

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She had a wildness to her.

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She played the piano constantly.

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Chopin...
Rachmaninoff, Tchaikovsky...

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And you could tell how she was
feeling by how she was playing.

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[♪]

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The parakeets would sit
on her shoulders while she played.
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She trusted me
with all her secrets.

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She went on Saturday nights
to the movies to make out with boys.

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That was when she stood up
for herself and yelled back.

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And she talked to me about
feelings for other girls.

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It was a period of sexual repression,
and she was made to fear her sexuality.

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And a lot of it was
her need to be held.

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She had a saying:
"Lean cat, savage cat."

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I felt very close to her,

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but she was in and out of institutions
for most of my childhood.

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Once they started sending her away,
they kept sending her away.

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My parents took away
her credibility and...

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silenced her
by calling her "mentally ill."
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The police came into the house.

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My father started wailing
on the front lawn, wailing.

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They were talking to my mother,
saying that

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"We found your daughter,
and she committed suicide."

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And I heard my mother say,
"Tell the children it was an accident."

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My interpretation from that minute was... denial.

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She didn't want us to know the truth.

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That's when it clicked.

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[busy street noise]

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[workers talking quietly]

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Okay, let's try it towards the left.

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- Yeah.
- Or like in the middle?

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I don't know.
Can you move over to the right?
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Keep going, okay,

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I can't really see because your body...
Thank you.

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Wow.

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Do you like it?

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Okay, I just want to see one more thing.
Can you switch these two?

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Okay, and one more idea.
A couple more ideas.

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I could do this all night.
[chuckles] Watch out.

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Yeah...

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[gallery noise]

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I was thinking about this
last night that...

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People talk about all kinds
of relationships, with their partner,

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their children,
their parents and...

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The relationships
that have mattered most to me,
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probably my whole life,
are my friends.

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I only escaped
because of my friends.

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Right.

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Yeah, that's better.
That's perfect.

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[♪]

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"I survived the opioid crisis.

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"I narrowly escaped.

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"My relationship to OxyContin
began several years ago in Berlin.

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"It was originally prescribed
for surgery.

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"Though I took it as directed,
I got addicted overnight.

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"In the beginning,
40 milligrams was too strong.

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"But as my habit grew,
there was never enough.

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"I went from 3 pills a day,
as prescribed, to 18.

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"The drug, like all drugs,
lost its effect.

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"So I picked up the straw.

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"My life revolved entirely
around getting and using Oxy,

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"counting and recounting, crushing
and snorting was my full-time job.

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[♪]

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"When I got out of treatment,
I learned that the Sackler family,

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"whose name I knew
from museums and galleries,

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"were responsible
for the epidemic.

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"The Sackler family and their
private company, Purdue Pharma,

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"advertised and distributed
their medication, knowing all the dangers.

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"I've started a group, P.A.I.N.,
to hold them accountable.

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"To get their ear,
we will target their philanthropy.

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"They have washed
their blood money through the halls

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"of museums and universities
around the world."

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[♪]

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I had no idea that it was going
to actually have the traction that it did.

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It's definitely among the,
if not the most,

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proud moments of my tenure
as editor of the magazine.

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She knew how to use her power.

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She's a figure that these museums
also wanted to work with.

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They want in their collections.
She's a major name in the art world.

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When she published the portfolio

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it was the fact that she was
doing it that mattered.

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I knew this would put her on the line
in a real serious way and...
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I was concerned for her safety.
I was concerned for...

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whether she would be
drummed out of the art world.

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I think that...

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She was taking on a very powerful family,
one of the most powerful families.

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I mean, if anyone belongs in jail,
it's these people.

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And as long as there's a jail,
they should be in it...

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until the whole prison
system is dismantled.

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They should be
the last to leave.

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- Last one, lights out.
- Last one.

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After I met Nan and
we connected on levels of...

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having experience with addiction
and stuff like that...

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She said, "Why don't you come
to one of our P.A.I.N. meetings?"
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Most members of P.A.I.N. have
a direct experience with addiction,

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or loss of a loved one.

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We have members
who lost their children...

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to overdose, that have family members
who are struggling,

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or that they themselves
have struggled.

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Yeah, but death is
the bottom line of this,

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and that should be reminded,
we should do a die-in of some sort.

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Do we want to marshal numbers?

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- But each of us will be then responsible...
- Trusted friends...

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The focus on the family,

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I would say there was a little
bit of fear in the group about

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going straight for them, although
we felt that we should.

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Yeah, this is the decisive one.

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Nan actually said,
"Do you think my career will implode?"

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And I said, "Probably."

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I said, "Yes, these are very scary,
powerful people.

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"But then again,
what else can you do?"

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And she said, "I think we
should take these people down."

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And I said,
"Well, I'm with you."

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And then we started meeting
and we would sit in Nan's house

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and dream up of things
we wanted to do.

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He's really sweet.

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He's sweet on Alex, man.

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Go on.

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Let's see where it all starts here.

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I mean, there's literally so many of these
that it's hard for me to find...

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Yeah, this is September 2019...
I get this legal hold notice.

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"Dear Mr. Keefe, I write
on behalf of my clients,

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"members of the
Raymond Sackler family.

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"You are hereby directed to preserve
and not to destroy, conceal or alter

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"any and all documents and communications
in your possession

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"that relate in any way to any members
of the Sackler family,

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"the article, Purdue Pharma,
and/or OxyContin..."

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And on and on and on.

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One of the things that's so strange
about the Sackler family is that

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we talk about them
in monolithic terms,

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but really it's three families and...

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they spring from these three original
brothers, Arthur, Mortimer and Raymond.

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His name is Arthur Sackler.

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For 40 years, he has brought energy,
goodwill and intelligence to art.

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He owns thousands of works,

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presently displayed not only
at the Metropolitan Museum,

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but in university collections as well.

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[applause]

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Knowing that the goal of peace
is engraved in your hearts,

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Mrs. Sackler and I present
to you this verse...

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Arthur died before
the introduction of OxyContin.

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And yet so much of what's happened is,
in part, a function of Arthur's legacy.

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His contemporaries knew him as this great
art collector and this philanthropist.

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And the dirty secret was that

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he had come to this position
of prominence and great wealth

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through the marketing of this drug,
which also happened to be quite addictive.

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He creates a whole means of selling Valium
in which you're targeting doctors.

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He devised
a compensation scheme in which

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he would get paid
a series of escalating bonuses

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based on how much
Valium they sold.

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Well, Valium becomes
the best-selling drug

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in the history
of the pharmaceutical industry.

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From his personal collection,

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Sackler gave the Smithsonian carte blanche
to select a thousand pieces,

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the best from a lifetime of collecting.

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The whole Sackler enterprise
has been about marketing,

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the marketing of OxyContin,
but also the marketing of the family name.

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There's the family of the art world
and the museum world and philanthropy.

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And then there's the kind
of grubby, unpleasant story of...

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big pharma marketing
and addiction and death.

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Don't be afraid to take
what they give you.

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Often it will be
an opioid medication.

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Some patients may be
afraid of taking opioids

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because they're perceived
as too strong, or addictive.

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But that is far
from actual fact.

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The Sacklers owned Purdue, this
company that set out very deliberately

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to change the way in which
these strong opioids were prescribed

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and to do so, by claiming
that they weren't addictive.

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A week or two after
my article came out,

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I got this email,
this kind of cryptic email

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from the studio of
Nan Goldin that said,

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"The photographer Nan Goldin
would like to meet with you."

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And I was a little mystified,
didn't know what it was about.

243
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But we set up a meeting.

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She had this kind of
"roll up your sleeves,

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"We gotta do something!
We gotta organize!

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"We gotta get out there!"
And I probably was...

247
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I blush to think, but I probably
was gently patronizing and said,

248
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"Well, good for you, glad to hear it.
You keep me posted on that."

249
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I love working in a material I know.

250
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Blue valium bottles.
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My anger at the Sackler family,
it's personal.

252
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I hate these people,
but it's not about my own addiction.

253
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I mean, when you think of
the profit off people's pain.

254
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You can only be
furious about it.

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Sacklers lie, people die!
Fund harm reduction now!

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00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,458
Sacklers lie, people die!
Fund harm reduction now!

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00:21:10,708 --> 00:21:14,583
Sacklers lie, people die!
Fund harm reduction now!

258
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Sacklers lie, people die!
Fund harm reduction now!

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[dead silence]

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We consciously talked about
Act Up and what Act Up had done.

261
00:21:30,125 --> 00:21:35,958
And how we wanted for these actions
to make an impact.

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This idea of a bottle
was the first object we created.
263
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All the museums, institutions
need to stop taking money

264
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from these corrupt, evil bastards.

265
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[cheers, applause]

266
00:22:06,291 --> 00:22:10,875
I got thrown out of every school
and every house that I lived.

267
00:22:12,541 --> 00:22:17,625
I got thrown out of my parents' home.
I got thrown out of my foster family.

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I got thrown out of
the communal foster family.

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- Seriously?
- Yeah.

270
00:22:22,541 --> 00:22:25,250
There's not one
I can think of that...

271
00:22:27,750 --> 00:22:30,416
Yeah, I made an art of it.

272
00:22:31,333 --> 00:22:35,875
Okay, but why were you
with foster parents?

273
00:22:36,333 --> 00:22:41,458
A psychiatrist told my father
that if I stayed in the house,

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the same thing would happen
as what happened with Barbara.

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So my parents sent me
to a foster agency.

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It was the Jewish adoption
agency on Beacon Hill.

277
00:22:56,333 --> 00:23:00,000
Yeah.
I must have been 14.

278
00:23:01,541 --> 00:23:04,041
The woman of the house
straightened my hair.

279
00:23:04,291 --> 00:23:07,416
She wanted me to be
a WASP basically.

280
00:23:10,250 --> 00:23:16,500
I remember when I first went there,
I projectile vomited all over my room.

281
00:23:16,958 --> 00:23:19,208
I must have been terrified.

282
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,083
I didn't remember that till now.

283
00:23:29,333 --> 00:23:33,541
I landed in a hippie free school
that couldn't throw me out.

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[sound of slide projector]

285
00:23:36,416 --> 00:23:39,208
Satya school saved my life.

286
00:23:40,458 --> 00:23:42,208
[sound of slide projector]

287
00:23:42,583 --> 00:23:49,125
I was shy beyond social phobia,
like crippling shyness.
288
00:23:51,583 --> 00:23:54,791
There were like six months
that I didn't speak at all.

289
00:23:55,833 --> 00:23:59,916
I think my sister's suicide
had silenced me.

290
00:24:03,041 --> 00:24:05,291
Until I met David.

291
00:24:07,083 --> 00:24:10,291
He said I was still speaking
in a whisper.

292
00:24:10,791 --> 00:24:12,708
[♪]

293
00:24:12,958 --> 00:24:15,500
I was 15. He was 14.

294
00:24:19,041 --> 00:24:21,458
[♪]

295
00:24:21,708 --> 00:24:24,208
He was a vision to me.

296
00:24:31,750 --> 00:24:33,583
[♪]

297
00:24:36,791 --> 00:24:39,916
We met each other, both stealing steaks.

298
00:24:42,125 --> 00:24:43,625
We were shoplifting.

299
00:24:43,875 --> 00:24:47,541
Both of us converged
in the steak department.

300
00:24:47,791 --> 00:24:49,500
- Are you serious?
- Yes.

301
00:24:49,875 --> 00:24:53,916
Oh, I was a great shoplifter,
pretty much all my life.

302
00:24:54,333 --> 00:24:59,750
I'm not sure how good I am anymore,
but that's how we became friends.

303
00:25:02,416 --> 00:25:08,041
David was a great wit,
very ironic, very precise.

304
00:25:08,916 --> 00:25:12,250
And that was
the coin of the realm.

305
00:25:12,791 --> 00:25:16,666
He taught me to use humor
as a survival mechanism.

306
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,875
He had this elegance
and he was very androgynous,

307
00:25:23,125 --> 00:25:26,208
which was something
I was really attracted to.

308
00:25:30,083 --> 00:25:33,500
And one night,
we hitchhiked to my brother's dorm,

309
00:25:33,750 --> 00:25:35,625
'cause I was between homes,

310
00:25:35,875 --> 00:25:39,250
and he laid down on the bed
and I laid down next to him.

311
00:25:39,500 --> 00:25:42,791
And he got up and
laid down on the floor.

312
00:25:44,916 --> 00:25:47,166
And I said, "Are you gay?"

313
00:25:48,458 --> 00:25:50,375
And a light came on for him.
314
00:25:54,375 --> 00:25:58,458
He always said that it was
the first time somebody recognized him.

315
00:26:01,375 --> 00:26:02,416
[sound of slide projector]

316
00:26:02,708 --> 00:26:04,916
Then he named me Nan.

317
00:26:05,250 --> 00:26:07,833
So I brought him out
and he named me Nan.

318
00:26:10,541 --> 00:26:12,916
So we liberated each other.

319
00:26:17,458 --> 00:26:20,791
David was the eye of my storm.

320
00:26:23,083 --> 00:26:29,291
David and Tommy in a sandpit.
That's one of my first photographs.

321
00:26:37,041 --> 00:26:40,083
We all got cameras from Polaroid.

322
00:26:41,250 --> 00:26:44,875
I attached to it more than
anybody else at the school.

323
00:26:46,875 --> 00:26:50,291
It was the only language
I spoke at the time.

324
00:26:52,958 --> 00:26:57,958
Suddenly I had, you know, a personality,
and it gave me a voice.

325
00:27:02,875 --> 00:27:06,458
Photography was always a way
to walk through fear.

326
00:27:06,875 --> 00:27:09,875
Taking a picture
is kind of protective.

327
00:27:12,875 --> 00:27:15,666
It gave me a reason to be there.

328
00:27:20,666 --> 00:27:22,458
[sound of slide projector]

329
00:27:24,791 --> 00:27:27,208
[♪]

330
00:27:27,500 --> 00:27:30,166
[MUSIC: "Cheree" by Suicide]

331
00:27:39,291 --> 00:27:44,125
David was living with this most beautiful
queen in Cambridge.

332
00:27:45,416 --> 00:27:48,708
Very quickly,
I moved in with them.

333
00:27:48,958 --> 00:27:51,083
♪ Cheree, Cheree ♪

334
00:27:54,541 --> 00:27:56,000
♪ Oh, baby ♪

335
00:27:56,291 --> 00:27:59,750
We went to Goodwill
pretty much every day.

336
00:28:00,625 --> 00:28:03,458
All the rich women were giving
their clothes to Goodwill,

337
00:28:03,708 --> 00:28:06,458
and they were exquisite clothes.

338
00:28:06,666 --> 00:28:08,333
♪ I love you ♪

339
00:28:08,625 --> 00:28:11,083
Like Fortuny gowns.

340
00:28:12,708 --> 00:28:14,458
♪ Cheree, Cheree ♪

341
00:28:18,666 --> 00:28:21,416
And we went to
The Other Side every night.

342
00:28:21,666 --> 00:28:24,583
Right away,
I felt at home there.

343
00:28:27,708 --> 00:28:31,166
I remember being really excited
to take pictures at that time.

344
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:41,500
It was like a flash of euphoria.
I know when a picture works.

345
00:28:43,708 --> 00:28:45,291
I get a rush.

346
00:28:49,208 --> 00:28:54,541
I would have the film developed in
a pharmacy, and each of them would make

347
00:28:54,791 --> 00:28:59,625
a pile of the pictures of themselves and
compete to see who had the biggest pile.

348
00:28:59,875 --> 00:29:03,291
If they didn't like one of the pictures,
they tore them up,

349
00:29:03,541 --> 00:29:06,000
and that was okay with me.

350
00:29:07,208 --> 00:29:12,875
I've always wanted the people in the
pictures to be proud of being in the work.

351
00:29:15,666 --> 00:29:19,125
People have said, "Oh I didn't know
I was that beautiful."

352
00:29:19,416 --> 00:29:22,958
Which is, you know,
what I want them to feel.

353
00:29:27,916 --> 00:29:33,041
My roommates,
they were running away from America,

354
00:29:33,916 --> 00:29:37,333
and they found each other.

355
00:29:40,250 --> 00:29:45,708
They didn't think, "We're pioneers.
We're rebels." They just were.

356
00:29:46,875 --> 00:29:49,791
It was about living out
what they needed to live out

357
00:29:50,041 --> 00:29:54,000
in spite of the reaction
from the outside world.

358
00:29:54,958 --> 00:29:57,500
[MUSIC: "What Makes A Man A Man"
by Charles Aznavour]

359
00:29:57,791 --> 00:30:01,333
♪ There's always those who spoil our
games by finding fault and calling names ♪

360
00:30:02,041 --> 00:30:05,666
♪ Always accusing ♪

361
00:30:06,291 --> 00:30:08,625
♪ We love each other but it seems ♪

362
00:30:08,916 --> 00:30:12,541
♪ The love lives only in my dreams ♪

363
00:30:12,833 --> 00:30:15,958
♪ It's so one-sided ♪

364
00:30:16,666 --> 00:30:19,083
♪ But in this life, I must confess ♪

365
00:30:19,375 --> 00:30:22,000
♪ The search for love and happiness ♪
366
00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:26,541
♪ Is unrequited ♪

367
00:30:26,833 --> 00:30:29,166
♪ I ask myself what have I got ♪

368
00:30:29,458 --> 00:30:32,375
♪ And what I am and what I'm not ♪

369
00:30:33,125 --> 00:30:37,041
♪ What have I given? ♪

370
00:30:37,333 --> 00:30:39,916
♪ Then answers come
from those who make ♪

371
00:30:40,208 --> 00:30:42,625
♪ The rules that some of us must break ♪

372
00:30:43,583 --> 00:30:47,416
♪ Just to keep living ♪

373
00:30:47,916 --> 00:30:50,416
♪ I know my life is not a crime ♪

374
00:30:50,708 --> 00:30:53,791
♪ I'm just a victim of my time ♪

375
00:30:54,083 --> 00:30:57,875
♪ I stand defenseless ♪

376
00:30:58,541 --> 00:31:00,791
♪ Nobody has the right to be ♪

377
00:31:01,083 --> 00:31:03,583
♪ The judge of what is right for me ♪

378
00:31:03,875 --> 00:31:05,000
♪ Tell me if you can ♪

379
00:31:05,291 --> 00:31:12,041
♪ What makes a man a man ♪

380
00:31:13,916 --> 00:31:15,291
While I was living
with the queens,

381
00:31:15,541 --> 00:31:18,958
I started going to art school
for photography.

382
00:31:20,250 --> 00:31:23,583
Said I wanted the queens
to be on the cover of Vogue.

383
00:31:24,375 --> 00:31:27,541
But in those days, that was so far.

384
00:31:30,583 --> 00:31:32,791
[street noise]

385
00:31:34,583 --> 00:31:37,791
It was a time
that was really scary for them.

386
00:31:39,375 --> 00:31:42,750
You could get arrested
walking down the street in Boston.

387
00:31:43,791 --> 00:31:48,250
My roommates stayed home basically,
and they went out at night.

388
00:31:49,208 --> 00:31:53,708
And...
survival was an art.

389
00:31:58,458 --> 00:32:00,500
[seagulls cawing]

390
00:32:02,375 --> 00:32:06,375
David and I started going
to Provincetown in '75.

391
00:32:07,291 --> 00:32:10,875
It was the gay mecca.

392
00:32:12,250 --> 00:32:14,666
I worked in a Portuguese
hot dog stand.
393
00:32:14,916 --> 00:32:20,958
And then later, I got a job as a bartender
at the Pied Piper, the lesbian bar.

394
00:32:23,375 --> 00:32:27,083
I was living in this separatist
lesbian community.

395
00:32:29,458 --> 00:32:34,208
You know, it was sort of like
flannel shirts and tea.

396
00:32:34,458 --> 00:32:38,541
And I'd come from
taffeta gowns and Quaaludes.

397
00:32:38,791 --> 00:32:40,833
And so I was kind of the oddball

398
00:32:40,958 --> 00:32:44,083
'cause I would wear pearls
and lipstick to the beach.

399
00:32:47,375 --> 00:32:52,208
I fell in love with this beautiful woman.
We were lovers, briefly.

400
00:32:53,166 --> 00:32:55,458
She had lots of other lovers.

401
00:32:58,416 --> 00:33:00,500
I was obsessed with her.

402
00:33:02,375 --> 00:33:05,208
So I photographed her constantly.

403
00:33:06,750 --> 00:33:09,958
I have often used photography
as a sublimation for sex.

404
00:33:10,666 --> 00:33:13,083
It's generally better than sex.

405
00:33:16,791 --> 00:33:18,666
I had a button machine.
406
00:33:18,916 --> 00:33:21,166
You know, you take a picture
and put it on a button.

407
00:33:21,416 --> 00:33:23,416
- You had a button machine?
- Yeah...

408
00:33:23,666 --> 00:33:26,458
That was my way of making a living.

409
00:33:26,958 --> 00:33:31,791
Walking up and down Commercial Street
in my high heels with my button machine,

410
00:33:32,291 --> 00:33:36,291
and Cookie and Sharon
and Divine and John Waters

411
00:33:36,541 --> 00:33:39,250
came by and had buttons made.

412
00:33:40,833 --> 00:33:47,000
I knew Cookie from John Waters' films,
and I already idolized her.

413
00:33:47,291 --> 00:33:49,541
[MUSIC: "Female Trouble" by Divine]

414
00:33:49,833 --> 00:33:51,833
♪ I got a lot of problems ♪

415
00:33:54,291 --> 00:33:56,666
♪ Female trouble ♪

416
00:33:59,375 --> 00:34:01,958
♪ Maybe I'm twisted ♪

417
00:34:02,875 --> 00:34:05,291
I'd like to set fire to this dump.

418
00:34:05,541 --> 00:34:08,208
Just cause we're pretty
everybody's jealous.
419
00:34:08,458 --> 00:34:11,958
It's like a prison here, even at
Christmas it's like a prison.

420
00:34:12,333 --> 00:34:14,166
[♪]

421
00:34:14,458 --> 00:34:17,250
[MUSIC: "Sunday Morning"
by The Velvet Underground]

422
00:34:17,541 --> 00:34:21,166
♪ Sunday morning ♪

423
00:34:22,250 --> 00:34:25,625
♪ Brings the dawning ♪

424
00:34:26,583 --> 00:34:29,708
Cookie was all about finding
what was funny in life.

425
00:34:31,541 --> 00:34:34,333
♪ By my side ♪

426
00:34:34,625 --> 00:34:38,208
Cookie and Sharon
were together for many years.

427
00:34:41,500 --> 00:34:46,375
Sharon was working at a pizza place,
and Cookie came by one night

428
00:34:46,625 --> 00:34:49,083
with her bicycle
and her son, Max.

429
00:34:49,333 --> 00:34:55,666
And he had long hair with gum
and popsicle sticks and leaves in it.

430
00:34:57,625 --> 00:35:00,750
And Cookie had on these little
Springolator pumps,

431
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,916
but they were held together
with safety pins.

432
00:35:06,666 --> 00:35:11,416
And Sharon thought,
"I'm gonna take care of these people."

433
00:35:12,416 --> 00:35:15,791
♪ Sunday morning ♪

434
00:35:16,250 --> 00:35:20,291
And then Cookie said to her,
"I believe in timing."

435
00:35:21,541 --> 00:35:23,833
♪ I've got a feeling ♪

436
00:35:24,083 --> 00:35:30,250
Cookie took Sharon home with her
through a swamp with big pussy willows.

437
00:35:32,125 --> 00:35:35,791
And that was the beginning
of Cookie and Sharon.

438
00:35:38,750 --> 00:35:42,541
It was a time of freedom
and possibility.

439
00:35:43,666 --> 00:35:46,708
That's when I did
my first slideshows.

440
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:57,041
You ready?
Does everyone have their chant?

441
00:35:58,333 --> 00:36:02,750
That's bullshit, get off it,
they made addicts just for profit.

442
00:36:03,125 --> 00:36:05,750
We were flying last night!

443
00:36:09,791 --> 00:36:12,291
We were ready to do
another New York action
444
00:36:12,541 --> 00:36:15,166
and the Met and the Guggenheim
to us are like

445
00:36:15,416 --> 00:36:17,541
two of the most
important museums.

446
00:36:18,041 --> 00:36:22,958
And we knew that the Guggenheim had
the Sackler Education Center.

447
00:36:23,333 --> 00:36:26,291
So they were like
a big target for us.

448
00:36:28,250 --> 00:36:31,000
An important part of
the museums we choose is

449
00:36:31,250 --> 00:36:34,250
Nan is typically
in the permanent collection.

450
00:36:34,666 --> 00:36:38,875
It's much stronger when the message
is coming from inside the house.

451
00:36:39,291 --> 00:36:41,750
I'm not worried.
What if they recognize me?

452
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,625
By the time we did the Guggenheim,
our name was out there.

453
00:36:45,875 --> 00:36:48,833
Other museums were alerted
that we might be coming.

454
00:36:49,083 --> 00:36:53,083
I'm supposed to wear it
so that no one knows who I am.

455
00:36:53,583 --> 00:36:58,708
- That's not drawing attention.
- Very subtle disguise.
456
00:36:58,958 --> 00:37:03,750
It calls a little attention, doesn't it?
It's kind of horrible.

457
00:37:04,125 --> 00:37:09,750
The attorney general in Massachusetts
had just released internal emails

458
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:16,625
and documents of the Sacklers, which were
vast, and had really damning quotes.

459
00:37:17,083 --> 00:37:21,625
One of them was the quote
from Richard Sackler, saying that

460
00:37:21,875 --> 00:37:24,416
upon the launch
of OxyContin in 1996,

461
00:37:24,666 --> 00:37:30,291
that OxyContin would cover the country
in a "blizzard of prescriptions."

462
00:37:30,708 --> 00:37:34,916
I was like, "What if we made
a bunch of prescriptions

463
00:37:35,291 --> 00:37:37,041
"and throw that
back in their faces?"

464
00:37:41,208 --> 00:37:44,041
We're trying to align
the banners with

465
00:37:44,291 --> 00:37:46,125
the fountain right
at the bottom of the spiral?

466
00:37:46,375 --> 00:37:47,333
- Yes.
- Okay.

467
00:37:47,708 --> 00:37:51,083
- Okay, "Shame on Sacklers," right?
- Yeah.

468
00:37:51,291 --> 00:37:54,125
The goal is to get the names
off the walls.

469
00:37:54,375 --> 00:37:56,250
As long as the names are there,

470
00:37:56,500 --> 00:37:59,875
they still maintain their hold
on their reputation.

471
00:38:00,541 --> 00:38:02,500
They're still whitewashing
their reputation.

472
00:38:02,750 --> 00:38:04,708
The museums are still
complicit in that.

473
00:38:10,041 --> 00:38:12,458
The energy was definitely right.

474
00:38:12,833 --> 00:38:15,916
The whole museum was already
buzzing when we went in.

475
00:38:16,166 --> 00:38:17,583
It was a packed Saturday night.

476
00:38:20,208 --> 00:38:23,333
- Nan, are you ready?
- No, where is everyone?

477
00:38:25,291 --> 00:38:27,125
We had a Signal thread,
but it was really like,

478
00:38:27,375 --> 00:38:31,708
"Go at this time. If you see
prescriptions falling, it's starting."

479
00:38:31,958 --> 00:38:33,416
- Are we ready?
- Yeah.
480
00:38:34,708 --> 00:38:37,625
[screams, cheers]

481
00:38:39,583 --> 00:38:42,541
[♪]

482
00:38:49,208 --> 00:38:53,291
I was at the bottom looking up,
and I checked out for a minute

483
00:38:53,583 --> 00:38:55,583
because I was looking up
at the prescription slips

484
00:38:55,833 --> 00:39:00,166
and just like in awe of
the visual that it created.

485
00:39:00,583 --> 00:39:03,333
[encouraging shouts]

486
00:39:05,541 --> 00:39:09,916
Say it loud, say it clear,
Sackler name not welcome here!

487
00:39:10,166 --> 00:39:15,125
Say it loud, say it clear,
Sackler name does not come here!

488
00:39:15,791 --> 00:39:20,708
Say it loud, say it clear,
OxyContin got them here!

489
00:39:22,208 --> 00:39:24,625
I was holding
one of the banners.

490
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,208
We looked like we're hundreds
and hundreds of activists.

491
00:39:27,458 --> 00:39:29,708
Right? We were not
hundreds and hundreds.

492
00:39:30,833 --> 00:39:34,791
People are shouting with us.
They're agreeing with us.

493
00:39:39,416 --> 00:39:40,958
- No longer!
- No longer!

494
00:39:41,166 --> 00:39:45,208
- The Sackler family must go!
- The Sackler family must go!

495
00:39:45,541 --> 00:39:49,375
- The Sackler family must pay!
- The Sackler family must pay!

496
00:39:49,666 --> 00:39:52,208
- People die!
- Sacklers lie!

497
00:39:52,375 --> 00:39:54,750
- People die!
- Sacklers lie!

498
00:39:55,666 --> 00:39:58,666
[♪]

499
00:40:09,666 --> 00:40:14,166
Say it loud, say it clear,
Sacklers are not welcome here!

500
00:40:14,458 --> 00:40:19,333
Say it loud, say it clear,
Sacklers are not welcome here!

501
00:40:20,708 --> 00:40:25,250
We have journeyed from
the Guggenheim down to the Met

502
00:40:25,500 --> 00:40:29,916
to send a message,
a message of life and death.

503
00:40:30,958 --> 00:40:36,583
My son was prescribed OxyContin
for a knee surgery in high school.

504
00:40:36,833 --> 00:40:40,958
The doctors told him:
"Take the pills every four hours.

505
00:40:41,416 --> 00:40:45,083
"Take them before the pain starts.
Take them on schedule."

506
00:40:45,750 --> 00:40:50,208
When my son talked of his pain,
I said, "Did you take your pill?"

507
00:40:50,958 --> 00:40:54,416
I became an accomplice
to my son's demise.

508
00:40:55,208 --> 00:40:57,541
- That's not right.
- That ain't right!

509
00:40:57,791 --> 00:41:01,875
My son became addicted to OxyContin.
It progressed to heroin.

510
00:41:01,875 --> 00:41:05,000
It took 11 years.
But it fucking killed him!

511
00:41:05,250 --> 00:41:09,583
It killed him. It took his life.
He died alone in a bathroom.

512
00:41:09,833 --> 00:41:12,541
I don't expect the Sacklers
to care about my son.

513
00:41:12,791 --> 00:41:13,625
We care!

514
00:41:14,041 --> 00:41:18,958
But 400,000 lives, right?
Somebody should care about that!

515
00:41:19,125 --> 00:41:20,375
Yes!

516
00:41:29,083 --> 00:41:30,666
And how did
the Guggenheim respond?

517
00:41:30,916 --> 00:41:32,833
They didn't say anything.

518
00:41:33,583 --> 00:41:36,083
The museums were keeping quiet.

519
00:41:36,791 --> 00:41:41,166
The first year, it's like 25 museums
were supportive of the Sacklers.

520
00:41:41,416 --> 00:41:43,750
Either said nothing
or were supportive.

521
00:41:44,666 --> 00:41:47,166
They know the Sacklers
are a bad look...

522
00:41:47,416 --> 00:41:49,916
- For their PR.
- Right.

523
00:41:50,166 --> 00:41:54,666
But they're terrified of what
will be found out about them.

524
00:41:56,958 --> 00:41:59,916
The rich people are scared
that we're going to dig into

525
00:42:00,166 --> 00:42:02,458
the evil way they made money.

526
00:42:11,583 --> 00:42:15,041
[MUSIC: "The Hunter Gets Captured
By The Game" by The Marvelettes]

527
00:42:16,958 --> 00:42:20,666
♪ Hoping you might fall into it ♪

528
00:42:21,083 --> 00:42:23,875
♪ Love hit me like a sudden slap ♪

529
00:42:25,208 --> 00:42:28,625
♪ One kiss and then I knew it ♪

530
00:42:29,166 --> 00:42:32,875
♪ What's this whole world comin' to ♪

531
00:42:33,375 --> 00:42:36,583
♪ Things just ain't the same ♪

532
00:42:37,625 --> 00:42:40,791
♪ Any time the hunter ♪

533
00:42:41,500 --> 00:42:45,916
♪ Gets captured by the game ♪

534
00:42:48,333 --> 00:42:50,791
I moved to the Bowery in '78.

535
00:42:51,583 --> 00:42:55,416
This place that
should have become a museum.

536
00:42:56,875 --> 00:43:00,541
So many people lived there,
and it was one of the big addresses

537
00:43:00,791 --> 00:43:03,458
in lower New York at the time.

538
00:43:05,458 --> 00:43:08,416
It was a shithole loft
because there was no light.

539
00:43:08,666 --> 00:43:11,458
It didn't have any walls
for a while.

540
00:43:11,708 --> 00:43:15,333
Kind of dysfunctional,
but managed to function.

541
00:43:17,625 --> 00:43:21,250
We used to fuck in the elevator.
There was a lot of drugs.

542
00:43:21,583 --> 00:43:25,208
Always a lot of drugs,
a lot of coke, a lot of speed.

543
00:43:25,875 --> 00:43:27,416
The Bowery was the Ballad.

544
00:43:27,666 --> 00:43:30,875
The Bowery was
the Goldin headquarters.

545
00:43:31,875 --> 00:43:36,541
And that's where I was situated
in the universe, was the Bowery.

546
00:43:41,750 --> 00:43:46,125
When I got to New York, this guy
gave me some names of galleries.

547
00:43:46,666 --> 00:43:49,833
In those days, you went to
galleries with your portfolio.

548
00:43:50,083 --> 00:43:52,166
So I called some galleries,
they weren't interested.

549
00:43:52,416 --> 00:43:54,875
And then I went up
to see Marvin.

550
00:43:55,125 --> 00:43:59,750
I walked in and showed these photos
that no one had ever seen before.

551
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,333
Totally bad prints and torn.

552
00:44:02,791 --> 00:44:05,833
And immediately,
we understood each other.

553
00:44:07,416 --> 00:44:10,833
She showed up one day
with a box of pictures,

554
00:44:11,083 --> 00:44:14,166
showed up in this party dress,
a polka dot party dress
555
00:44:14,416 --> 00:44:18,791
with a lot of crinolines,
and kind of weird makeup and...

556
00:44:19,166 --> 00:44:24,208
walked up the very fancy stairs of this
gallery and... had this box of pictures.

557
00:44:24,458 --> 00:44:28,125
And I opened up this box of pictures
and about 20 of them in it and...

558
00:44:28,375 --> 00:44:30,375
I had never seen pictures
like that in my life.

559
00:44:30,625 --> 00:44:33,625
These portraits and pictures
of people living their lives

560
00:44:33,875 --> 00:44:37,208
that really were unlike anything
anybody else was doing.

561
00:44:38,416 --> 00:44:43,708
He asked me to bring more stuff,
and I brought up a crate.

562
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,333
[laughing]

563
00:44:45,583 --> 00:44:50,458
And I got the cab driver
to bring me up by giving him a blow job.

564
00:44:50,708 --> 00:44:53,625
So that's how I entered
the art world.

565
00:44:53,875 --> 00:44:55,208
[more laughter]

566
00:44:55,500 --> 00:44:58,000
This was 1979.

567
00:44:58,333 --> 00:45:00,125
[♪]

568
00:45:00,416 --> 00:45:02,458
[MUSIC: "You Can't Be Funky"
by Bush Tetras]

569
00:45:10,583 --> 00:45:13,333
The first week we were there,
the Mudd Club opened.

570
00:45:14,250 --> 00:45:16,458
And I met Vivienne Dick.

571
00:45:19,125 --> 00:45:21,375
Vivienne was curious
about everything,

572
00:45:21,625 --> 00:45:24,500
and a lot of stuff that happened,
she took me to.

573
00:45:24,791 --> 00:45:25,666
♪ Talk, talk, talk ♪

574
00:45:25,958 --> 00:45:27,666
♪ Well, the walls are so thin ♪

575
00:45:27,958 --> 00:45:32,333
I mean, there were different worlds
in New York that I was moving between,

576
00:45:32,833 --> 00:45:35,125
and they didn't necessarily
like each other.

577
00:45:39,208 --> 00:45:43,791
The world of Vivienne and this woman
I lived with named Suzanne...

578
00:45:44,666 --> 00:45:47,708
♪ Yours eyes are shallow
and your glance is cold ♪

579
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,458
And Greer...
580
00:45:51,041 --> 00:45:54,500
She was making her dolls all the time,
working constantly.

581
00:45:54,791 --> 00:45:57,666
♪ You can't be funky, you can't be funky ♪

582
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,458
♪ You can't be funky
if you haven't got a soul ♪

583
00:46:03,750 --> 00:46:05,958
And then there was
the world of Bruce.

584
00:46:09,291 --> 00:46:11,166
And David.

585
00:46:12,625 --> 00:46:15,666
♪ Well, I lock you up tighter
every place that you go ♪

586
00:46:15,958 --> 00:46:17,416
And Cookie.

587
00:46:17,791 --> 00:46:20,500
[MUSIC: "Fire" by Lizzy Mercier Descloux]

588
00:46:20,791 --> 00:46:25,000
She was the center of
New York downtown life.

589
00:46:27,375 --> 00:46:28,333
♪ Fire ♪

590
00:46:30,083 --> 00:46:31,583
♪ I bid you to burn ♪

591
00:46:32,166 --> 00:46:34,333
[♪]

592
00:46:34,625 --> 00:46:35,541
♪ Fire ♪

593
00:46:35,833 --> 00:46:38,625
People used to say
we were marginalized.

594
00:46:39,625 --> 00:46:41,208
And we didn't care.

595
00:46:43,083 --> 00:46:45,375
Normal people were
marginalized to us.

596
00:46:45,666 --> 00:46:47,583
♪ You fought hard and you saved ♪

597
00:46:48,416 --> 00:46:50,166
♪ But it's all going to burn ♪

598
00:46:50,458 --> 00:46:53,458
Cookie was in films,
she was in plays.

599
00:46:54,375 --> 00:46:57,125
And then she was writing
art criticism.

600
00:47:00,125 --> 00:47:04,833
Cookie used to say, "I don't know
why people think I'm wild, I'm not wild,

601
00:47:05,166 --> 00:47:09,041
"wildness just appears
on the road in front of me."

602
00:47:10,166 --> 00:47:13,541
You have to hear her voice.
And that tells you everything.

603
00:47:14,833 --> 00:47:18,291
This kind of irony and humor.

604
00:47:19,291 --> 00:47:21,291
"'You should really wait for Charlie
to come back from the store.

605
00:47:21,541 --> 00:47:22,750
"'He's the one to talk to.

606
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,125
"'He's right in there
buying oranges for us.'

607
00:47:25,375 --> 00:47:27,833
"She pointed to the Haight
Street Chinese fruit store,

608
00:47:28,083 --> 00:47:30,875
"but I'd had enough and thanked them
and left looking for more action.

609
00:47:31,125 --> 00:47:34,500
"These girls were Susan Atkins and Squeaky
Fromme and Mary Brunner and others.

610
00:47:34,666 --> 00:47:38,833
"And I missed meeting
Charlie Manson by 5 minutes."

611
00:47:40,041 --> 00:47:42,958
Cookie was working
as a go-go dancer.

612
00:47:44,083 --> 00:47:46,333
I was dancing
in New Jersey because

613
00:47:46,583 --> 00:47:49,958
you didn't have to take
your top off in New Jersey.

614
00:47:50,208 --> 00:47:52,958
New York was topless.
New Jersey wasn't.

615
00:47:54,875 --> 00:47:56,500
[MUSIC: "Boogie Oogie Oogie"
by A Taste of Honey]

616
00:47:56,791 --> 00:47:59,416
So we'd take the bus
out to Paterson,

617
00:47:59,666 --> 00:48:03,958
and go to these low life bars,
and wiggle our asses,
618
00:48:04,208 --> 00:48:07,916
and then get on the bus
and come back to New York.

619
00:48:08,916 --> 00:48:11,750
♪ If you're thinking you're too cool ♪

620
00:48:11,958 --> 00:48:14,625
I was dancing
to have money to buy film.

621
00:48:17,041 --> 00:48:21,500
♪ Boy, oh boy, have I got news for you ♪

622
00:48:23,125 --> 00:48:26,166
Then I started in the whorehouse.

623
00:48:26,500 --> 00:48:29,083
Yeah, that got pretty ugly.

624
00:48:32,208 --> 00:48:34,791
I haven't kept many secrets in my life.

625
00:48:36,416 --> 00:48:39,125
But I never did talk about it before.

626
00:48:44,250 --> 00:48:48,291
But I think at this point in my life,
I should talk about it

627
00:48:48,583 --> 00:48:51,666
because of the incredible
stigma around sex work.

628
00:48:57,458 --> 00:49:02,375
Vivienne got really interested in the fact
that I had worked in a house,

629
00:49:02,708 --> 00:49:06,833
and decided she wanted
to make a film about it.

630
00:49:07,833 --> 00:49:09,583
It's a fiction film.

631
00:49:09,833 --> 00:49:14,916
I'm playing the madam of the house
where I worked... who was a monster.

632
00:49:15,083 --> 00:49:18,166
Hi. How are you?
Have you been with us before?

633
00:49:18,416 --> 00:49:20,333
She would have us
on our backs all day,

634
00:49:20,583 --> 00:49:24,708
and then she'd come home from
Bloomingdales, showing off her lingerie.

635
00:49:26,916 --> 00:49:30,708
I mean sex work isn't negative
in itself, but it's no party.

636
00:49:30,958 --> 00:49:33,500
It's one of the hardest jobs
you could have.

637
00:49:39,375 --> 00:49:42,083
[street noise, honking]

638
00:49:42,333 --> 00:49:45,166
And so that's how
Tin Pan Alley came.

639
00:49:48,958 --> 00:49:52,416
Somebody said,
"You should go meet Maggie."

640
00:49:52,666 --> 00:49:56,000
She was hiring women
who had been sex workers,

641
00:49:56,250 --> 00:49:59,083
and helped people get out of it.

642
00:49:59,375 --> 00:50:04,583
She was an incredible force.
She was a community organizer.

643
00:50:04,833 --> 00:50:09,583
She was a great cook.
She was a radical.

644
00:50:10,750 --> 00:50:13,000
And she was a ballet dancer.

645
00:50:13,250 --> 00:50:17,166
So she hired me pretty quickly.
Like immediately.

646
00:50:18,291 --> 00:50:22,208
The bar was a safe space
for prostitutes and also a way

647
00:50:22,458 --> 00:50:26,291
to work their way out of prostitution
if they wished to do so.

648
00:50:26,458 --> 00:50:29,958
And it was a center
for those on the left,

649
00:50:30,125 --> 00:50:32,416
the squatters movement,
the anarchist movement,

650
00:50:32,666 --> 00:50:33,791
the Black movement,

651
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,625
people who were interested in supporting
political prisoners from the Latin left.

652
00:50:37,791 --> 00:50:41,250
And so it was really
a polyglot place.

653
00:50:41,500 --> 00:50:46,041
It had hustlers, it had artists,
Reuters journalists.

654
00:50:46,416 --> 00:50:52,291
It had people from NBC who were on strike.
And it had the IRS.

655
00:50:53,166 --> 00:50:55,708
When the IRS would come
in the afternoon to get drunk,

656
00:50:56,250 --> 00:50:59,291
they were as hard to handle
as the bikers.

657
00:50:59,875 --> 00:51:03,166
But the bar
was controlled by women.

658
00:51:04,083 --> 00:51:06,416
It was very important to me
that we not have bouncers,

659
00:51:06,666 --> 00:51:09,791
and not depend on male strength
for keeping the peace.

660
00:51:11,500 --> 00:51:13,708
And so when people behind
the bar, including Nan,

661
00:51:14,125 --> 00:51:18,750
decided that it was time for someone
to go, that person would go.

662
00:51:20,833 --> 00:51:23,041
- It's on the house.
- Oh, thanks, Nan.

663
00:51:32,125 --> 00:51:34,625
Tin Pan was very integrated.

664
00:51:35,041 --> 00:51:39,208
The New Wave was not
a very integrated scene at all.

665
00:51:39,500 --> 00:51:44,500
And also it cut across class lines,
which New Wave also didn't do.

666
00:51:44,875 --> 00:51:48,041
I spent a lot of time at Tin Pan
but I can't say...

667
00:51:48,208 --> 00:51:51,583
Talk about repetitive nights, you know?
668
00:51:54,125 --> 00:51:58,208
When I first started, I loved it there.
The first two years...

669
00:51:59,125 --> 00:52:03,541
I listened to people.
Really listened.

670
00:52:05,250 --> 00:52:07,583
And they weren't used to that.

671
00:52:09,166 --> 00:52:12,791
I was sort of the dominatrix
of the bar and I got tips

672
00:52:13,041 --> 00:52:17,250
because people wanted
to impress me, win me back...

673
00:52:18,416 --> 00:52:23,666
And I would work till four in the morning
and then we'd go to The After Hours.

674
00:52:26,666 --> 00:52:29,250
[saxophone music playing]

675
00:52:30,333 --> 00:52:34,833
Tin Pan Alley became
a major kind of staging point

676
00:52:35,083 --> 00:52:38,750
as people were planning
for the Times Square Show.

677
00:52:39,833 --> 00:52:44,208
It was multi-floor.
It was collaborative.

678
00:52:44,708 --> 00:52:51,708
There was graffiti, sculpture,
there were painters, lots of video work.

679
00:52:52,291 --> 00:52:53,708
There was music...

680
00:52:55,541 --> 00:52:58,500
[♪]

681
00:52:59,166 --> 00:53:01,166
[singing]

682
00:53:05,500 --> 00:53:09,458
The first floor is where
most of the performances were.

683
00:53:09,750 --> 00:53:12,875
So Nan invited
everyone in the bar.

684
00:53:13,125 --> 00:53:15,375
So, yes, I was anxious
to see her work and...

685
00:53:15,833 --> 00:53:21,291
I was sitting on the floor and
this music starts and the slides start.

686
00:53:22,291 --> 00:53:25,000
[MUSIC: "I Put A Spell on You"
by Screamin' Jay Hawkins]

687
00:53:25,375 --> 00:53:27,875
[♪]

688
00:53:30,916 --> 00:53:32,833
♪ I put a spell on you ♪

689
00:53:39,333 --> 00:53:41,625
♪ Because you're mine ♪

690
00:53:47,708 --> 00:53:50,083
♪ Stop the things you do ♪

691
00:53:55,166 --> 00:53:56,166
♪ Watch out! ♪

692
00:53:56,875 --> 00:53:59,375
♪ I ain't lyin' ♪

693
00:54:02,708 --> 00:54:05,125
♪ Yeah ♪
694
00:54:05,291 --> 00:54:06,583
♪ I can't stand ♪

695
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:07,958
♪ Ooh! ♪

696
00:54:08,583 --> 00:54:10,791
♪ No running around ♪

697
00:54:12,583 --> 00:54:14,875
♪ I can't stand ♪

698
00:54:17,166 --> 00:54:19,750
The work was
incredibly political.

699
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:21,958
It was about power,

700
00:54:22,208 --> 00:54:25,958
and particularly about the power
that men have over women,

701
00:54:26,208 --> 00:54:30,333
and how that power
is translated up in society.

702
00:54:31,666 --> 00:54:35,791
The very first time I saw Nan's slideshow,
it was extremely raucous.

703
00:54:36,041 --> 00:54:38,791
What I remember mostly
is the noise,

704
00:54:38,958 --> 00:54:41,916
not just of the music or
of the equipment,

705
00:54:42,166 --> 00:54:47,125
but of people talking to the screen... Commenting.

706
00:54:48,458 --> 00:54:51,166
At the beginning,
the audience would be made up
707
00:54:51,416 --> 00:54:53,750
exclusively of the people
in the show,

708
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,583
so they would scream at me
if they didn't like something,

709
00:54:56,833 --> 00:54:59,333
and scream if
they loved something.

710
00:54:59,583 --> 00:55:03,250
So I edited according
to that to some extent.

711
00:55:05,250 --> 00:55:09,166
Then I had those pictures of my friend
having sex with her boyfriend

712
00:55:09,416 --> 00:55:12,333
and she demanded
I take them out at some point.

713
00:55:12,583 --> 00:55:16,250
And so that's when I started
photographing myself having sex.

714
00:55:16,541 --> 00:55:21,333
I figured if I was showing her having sex,
I had to show myself having sex.

715
00:55:21,625 --> 00:55:24,958
[MUSIC: "Double Shot Of My Baby's Love"
by Swingin' Medallions]

716
00:55:25,666 --> 00:55:28,208
♪ Double shot of my baby's love ♪

717
00:55:28,500 --> 00:55:30,791
I was doing it
at underground clubs and

718
00:55:31,041 --> 00:55:34,291
my boyfriend at the time
was spinning records.
719
00:55:34,583 --> 00:55:36,291
[♪]

720
00:55:36,416 --> 00:55:38,583
So that's when the music started.

721
00:55:38,833 --> 00:55:40,791
I would start with songs
that I knew and then

722
00:55:41,083 --> 00:55:43,916
people would send me
music, literally.

723
00:55:44,166 --> 00:55:46,833
But I changed them
every single time.

724
00:55:47,500 --> 00:55:52,541
It was fun, it was really fun.
People would be dancing.

725
00:55:52,875 --> 00:55:55,333
You know, it was fabulous.

726
00:55:55,708 --> 00:55:58,833
[MUSIC: "8th Wonder" by The Sugarhill Gang]

727
00:55:59,041 --> 00:56:01,375
♪ Scream it out and say yo, hit it! ♪

728
00:56:02,166 --> 00:56:03,333
♪ Ya don't stop ♪

729
00:56:03,666 --> 00:56:08,208
I was always late for everything.
I didn't sleep.

730
00:56:08,458 --> 00:56:11,000
I mean, I was up
all night editing.

731
00:56:14,833 --> 00:56:16,750
You never saw
the same thing twice.
732
00:56:17,041 --> 00:56:19,166
She changed the music,
she changed the slides,

733
00:56:19,375 --> 00:56:21,166
she changed the order of them.

734
00:56:21,166 --> 00:56:27,000
Sometimes her own changed feelings
changed the meanings of them

735
00:56:27,250 --> 00:56:31,250
because her photographs don't
hold just one meaning.

736
00:56:31,875 --> 00:56:37,125
You know, a lot is going on
in a Nan Goldin photograph.

737
00:56:41,250 --> 00:56:44,125
And I guess that's what made people
think it was so cinematic

738
00:56:44,375 --> 00:56:46,958
because to most people,
they seem like characters,

739
00:56:47,208 --> 00:56:51,000
whereas to the people being photographed,
they seem like themselves.

740
00:56:53,083 --> 00:56:55,750
She photographs from our side.

741
00:56:58,833 --> 00:57:01,916
The mid-80s was when
I was closest to Cookie.

742
00:57:03,750 --> 00:57:10,083
She wasn't doing very well so this friend
of hers told her to spin a globe

743
00:57:10,541 --> 00:57:13,875
and wherever she put her finger,
to go there.
744
00:57:14,416 --> 00:57:18,666
So she went to Italy and
she met Vittorio.

745
00:57:21,666 --> 00:57:24,208
It was the greatest love of her life.

746
00:57:27,166 --> 00:57:31,875
It was a huge wedding.
Everyone in lower New York was there.

747
00:57:32,291 --> 00:57:37,583
Rene Ricard,
Greer, David Armstrong,

748
00:57:39,041 --> 00:57:42,916
Francesco Clemente,
Teri Toye...

749
00:57:44,291 --> 00:57:46,250
Peter Hujar was there.

750
00:57:46,500 --> 00:57:50,375
And we were standing next
to each other taking pictures.

751
00:57:51,666 --> 00:57:54,041
It was a beautiful wedding,

752
00:57:56,500 --> 00:57:58,208
and a wild party.

753
00:57:59,708 --> 00:58:00,833
Yeah.

754
00:58:02,666 --> 00:58:06,041
[MUSIC: "Ballad of Dependency"
by Charlotte Rae]

755
00:58:07,208 --> 00:58:10,833
♪ He charges forth
while others are debatin' ♪

756
00:58:11,125 --> 00:58:14,750
♪ Conniving, cocky knave
with all the trimmin' ♪
757
00:58:15,041 --> 00:58:18,166
♪ I know one thing can trim him down ♪

758
00:58:18,875 --> 00:58:20,166
♪ Women ♪

759
00:58:20,708 --> 00:58:25,083
♪ In women he meets deep authority ♪

760
00:58:25,333 --> 00:58:32,333
♪ On them he feels his old dependency ♪

761
00:58:35,416 --> 00:58:40,125
Once I started sharing the work,
I got a lot of shit.

762
00:58:41,833 --> 00:58:47,083
"There's no such thing as a good woman
artist," was said to me in the mid-80s.

763
00:58:48,083 --> 00:58:50,833
It was really
heavy resistance...

764
00:58:51,666 --> 00:58:55,708
especially from male artists
and gallerists who said,

765
00:58:56,041 --> 00:59:01,458
"This isn't photography.
Nobody photographs their own life."

766
00:59:01,750 --> 00:59:06,250
It was still a kind of outlier act.

767
00:59:06,625 --> 00:59:11,625
It was basically a time of black
and white, vertical photographs.

768
00:59:13,458 --> 00:59:18,500
So it's hard to understand that that
could have ever been radical.

769
00:59:23,291 --> 00:59:27,958
I thought the art world was bullshit
and that Times Square was real life.

770
00:59:28,958 --> 00:59:30,916
That's where I met Brian.

771
00:59:33,666 --> 00:59:40,458
Our first date, we went to see The Clash
right around the corner from the bar.

772
00:59:40,958 --> 00:59:44,000
And then we went up
to Harlem and copped.

773
00:59:45,958 --> 00:59:51,625
And then he just stayed.
And he stayed from '81 to '84.

774
00:59:56,083 --> 00:59:59,416
He was beautiful at the time,
and I fell in love with him.

775
01:00:01,958 --> 01:00:03,875
He was very tender.

776
01:00:05,208 --> 01:00:07,583
You can see it in Brian's eyes.

777
01:00:13,458 --> 01:00:18,875
We had very good sex, and that can keep
people together for a long time.

778
01:00:23,291 --> 01:00:25,916
And then we started
fighting a lot.

779
01:00:27,333 --> 01:00:29,583
And I was good at fighting.

780
01:00:34,625 --> 01:00:37,541
He wanted to break up
and I didn't want him to.

781
01:00:37,791 --> 01:00:41,875
And then we went through that a lot,
trying to break up.

782
01:00:43,125 --> 01:00:46,125
And then when I went to Berlin,
we'd broken up.

783
01:00:46,375 --> 01:00:51,458
And then he came to Berlin and...
And that story.

784
01:00:55,041 --> 01:01:01,291
I did a slideshow at some loft,
and we went to a bar,

785
01:01:02,791 --> 01:01:08,458
and then he realized I'd been
with this girl, and he became jealous.

786
01:01:09,125 --> 01:01:11,500
And that's what set it off.

787
01:01:14,833 --> 01:01:18,125
We were so intertwined,
we didn't know how to break up.

788
01:01:19,375 --> 01:01:22,875
So this was his way
of breaking up.

789
01:01:25,625 --> 01:01:31,708
He punched me in the face repeatedly,
like boom, boom, boom.

790
01:01:31,958 --> 01:01:34,500
And he went after my eyes.

791
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:39,083
I was bleeding and
there was this girl, Sylvie, from Paris.

792
01:01:39,416 --> 01:01:44,416
Sylvie came in and dragged me out.
She saved my life.

793
01:01:47,458 --> 01:01:52,791
He trashed the room and he wrote
in lipstick all over the room:

794
01:01:53,041 --> 01:01:55,166
"Bitch," "Cunt"...

795
01:01:56,041 --> 01:01:57,833
He burned my diaries.

796
01:01:59,416 --> 01:02:03,625
The greatest luck of my life
is that I left the slideshow

797
01:02:03,875 --> 01:02:07,166
at the loft where I'd shown it because...

798
01:02:07,333 --> 01:02:10,291
- He would have destroyed it.
- He would have destroyed it.

799
01:02:10,541 --> 01:02:11,833
Yeah.

800
01:02:17,500 --> 01:02:22,500
All the bones in the orbital
floor of my eye were broken.

801
01:02:23,708 --> 01:02:25,666
- And...
- To go for your eyes.

802
01:02:25,791 --> 01:02:28,291
Maggie said he wanted
to blind me.

803
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:38,791
My pictures of myself battered
were what kept me from going back.

804
01:02:43,125 --> 01:02:46,208
Women who've been battered
have come to me and told me

805
01:02:46,458 --> 01:02:50,208
that they were able to talk about it
because of those pictures.

806
01:02:54,333 --> 01:02:58,541
The struggle between
autonomy and dependency is
807
01:02:58,791 --> 01:03:01,791
the core of "The Ballad
of Sexual Dependency."

808
01:03:07,583 --> 01:03:11,958
My father tried to get it
stopped from being published.

809
01:03:13,833 --> 01:03:19,541
The pictures were one thing,
but they were so afraid of the text...

810
01:03:19,916 --> 01:03:23,791
'cause he said that I was trying to prove
that they killed my sister.

811
01:03:24,708 --> 01:03:26,583
That's how he put it.

812
01:03:28,750 --> 01:03:31,375
Brian was trying to get it stopped.

813
01:03:32,416 --> 01:03:36,875
It makes it even more radical:
all these men trying to stop it.

814
01:03:41,416 --> 01:03:45,583
When I got back to New York,
I went to Tin Pan.

815
01:03:45,958 --> 01:03:48,875
I was terrified because
there were all those men,

816
01:03:49,125 --> 01:03:52,000
and I couldn't be
in a crowd with men.

817
01:03:52,500 --> 01:03:57,958
Maggie thought I was shooting dope
and I wasn't, but I was snorting it.

818
01:03:59,541 --> 01:04:02,291
And I remembered
when I quit Tin Pan, I thought,

819
01:04:02,541 --> 01:04:07,625
"Oh, now I'm going to get really strung
out because there's nothing to stop me."

820
01:04:09,750 --> 01:04:11,041
And I did.

821
01:04:18,958 --> 01:04:21,250
It's a little scary around here.

822
01:04:22,375 --> 01:04:26,458
A New York Post reporter called me cold
without being introduced.

823
01:04:26,708 --> 01:04:30,333
He called me on my cell phone.
He said he got it on the internet.

824
01:04:30,583 --> 01:04:32,208
We have to really have the facts

825
01:04:32,458 --> 01:04:34,541
if we're going to go up
against this family.

826
01:04:34,791 --> 01:04:36,833
They could sue us, right?

827
01:04:38,541 --> 01:04:43,000
After a few of our actions, Purdue Pharma
started taking out full page ads

828
01:04:43,250 --> 01:04:48,416
in The New York Times, saying, "Of course
we care about the opioid crisis.

829
01:04:48,416 --> 01:04:51,166
"We're in the market of opioids."

830
01:04:52,541 --> 01:04:56,166
People are still accepting
Sackler donations.

831
01:04:57,708 --> 01:05:00,000
What's happening with
the National Portrait Gallery?
832
01:05:00,250 --> 01:05:04,166
I don't know what's going on with my work
being in the show or not.

833
01:05:04,416 --> 01:05:06,208
What do people think?

834
01:05:06,500 --> 01:05:11,833
It would be a serious blow if Nan Goldin
refuses to show her work there

835
01:05:12,083 --> 01:05:14,625
- because of Sackler money.
- So...

836
01:05:14,833 --> 01:05:18,041
Nan was set to have
a retrospective

837
01:05:18,458 --> 01:05:21,416
at the National
Portrait Gallery in the UK,

838
01:05:21,666 --> 01:05:28,583
but they're in the middle of accepting
a $1.3 million grant from the Sacklers.

839
01:05:29,166 --> 01:05:33,375
So Nan told them that she would not
do her retrospective with them

840
01:05:33,625 --> 01:05:35,125
if they were to accept it.

841
01:05:43,250 --> 01:05:44,791
Unbelievable!

842
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:49,083
Oh man, it's working, right?
It's working.

843
01:05:49,333 --> 01:05:51,125
I can't believe it!

844
01:05:51,375 --> 01:05:54,416
When the National Portrait Gallery refused
the donation from the Sacklers,

845
01:05:54,666 --> 01:05:56,083
I thought this is
a watershed moment.

846
01:05:56,250 --> 01:06:00,041
This is an incredible rush
to think that

847
01:06:00,291 --> 01:06:04,416
people are actually beginning
to rethink how we do things.

848
01:06:06,666 --> 01:06:09,291
Let's go over
what happened in one week.

849
01:06:09,541 --> 01:06:13,666
I think it doesn't happen
to activist groups very often.

850
01:06:13,666 --> 01:06:19,750
On Tuesday, the National Portrait Gallery
was the first to refuse money.

851
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:21,375
Yeah!

852
01:06:21,875 --> 01:06:24,041
On Thursday, the Tate crumbled.

853
01:06:24,500 --> 01:06:29,000
On Friday, surprisingly, the Guggenheim.

854
01:06:29,250 --> 01:06:32,125
- Yeah...
- And that was shocking.

855
01:06:32,375 --> 01:06:33,458
[applause]

856
01:06:33,666 --> 01:06:39,375
Okay, and then those dirty deep
bottom feeders, the hedge fund,

857
01:06:39,625 --> 01:06:43,791
refusing to take the Sackler money,
which is unprecedented.

858
01:06:44,375 --> 01:06:47,000
[celebrating shouts]

859
01:06:48,750 --> 01:06:50,791
The domino effect was huge.

860
01:06:51,041 --> 01:06:55,208
The fact that this is happening
by all these major museums

861
01:06:55,458 --> 01:06:58,250
and also Nan has her hand
in every single one,

862
01:06:58,541 --> 01:07:03,083
including the Tate, is major,
and then the Met followed.

863
01:07:03,375 --> 01:07:06,041
But it was not good enough for us.

864
01:07:06,333 --> 01:07:10,375
We had a very clear demand:
no longer accept Sackler money.

865
01:07:10,625 --> 01:07:13,458
Then the next part obviously
is take down the name.

866
01:07:19,833 --> 01:07:24,083
Subsequently, we then saw
this WhatsApp log

867
01:07:24,333 --> 01:07:27,791
that came out from the
Mortimer Sackler family members,

868
01:07:28,041 --> 01:07:31,375
and you actually see them
start to talk about Nan Goldin.

869
01:07:31,625 --> 01:07:37,125
They talk about it solely as
a matter of public relations management.

870
01:07:37,375 --> 01:07:42,125
You don't have a single person who says,
"Well, wait a second,

871
01:07:42,375 --> 01:07:44,250
"maybe there's some substance
to this critique.

872
01:07:44,500 --> 01:07:49,000
"We should look hard at what we've done.
Is there some way we can make amends?

873
01:07:49,250 --> 01:07:51,166
"Are there questions
we should be asking?"

874
01:07:51,333 --> 01:07:57,041
Instead, it's just entirely,
"How do we manage this PR problem?"

875
01:07:58,416 --> 01:08:00,625
[sound of passing subway]

876
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,833
When did you know
you were being followed?

877
01:08:08,458 --> 01:08:14,625
I was leaving Nan's by myself
on a Friday night.

878
01:08:15,541 --> 01:08:16,750
And...

879
01:08:18,833 --> 01:08:20,500
I noticed a car.

880
01:08:21,750 --> 01:08:27,416
I noticed that the person sitting in it
is obscuring his face.

881
01:08:27,791 --> 01:08:34,250
And the second I'm directly across
from him, he kind of looks at me.
882
01:08:37,375 --> 01:08:42,750
The next week, as I'm crossing
my direct street,

883
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:47,333
up to the stop sign,
pulls this car.

884
01:08:48,125 --> 01:08:51,583
And I looked at him.

885
01:08:53,250 --> 01:08:55,791
And I just kept walking.

886
01:08:56,041 --> 01:08:59,541
I walked for like 15 feet or so,
and when I looked back,

887
01:08:59,791 --> 01:09:02,333
he was just taking
my photo from his car.

888
01:09:05,416 --> 01:09:10,958
And like I'm just having a memory
of that moment because it's like...

889
01:09:11,208 --> 01:09:12,083
There is no...

890
01:09:12,291 --> 01:09:15,583
I don't think I've experienced
a greater fear than that moment

891
01:09:15,833 --> 01:09:18,250
'cause I don't know
who the fuck this guy is.

892
01:09:19,708 --> 01:09:22,791
But I know it's the same guy
from the week before.

893
01:09:26,166 --> 01:09:29,166
So I think I even yelled at him,
but I don't even know if he knew.

894
01:09:29,416 --> 01:09:33,750
He peeled out,
and I was terrified.

895
01:09:34,833 --> 01:09:38,500
And then,
imagine my shock

896
01:09:38,750 --> 01:09:42,291
when the next week,
exactly a week later,

897
01:09:42,541 --> 01:09:45,291
this guy is outside of Nan's.

898
01:09:52,708 --> 01:09:55,708
We just walked out of Nan's house.

899
01:09:55,958 --> 01:09:58,875
The same car is
in front of the house again.

900
01:10:07,458 --> 01:10:09,791
And the guy is...

901
01:10:11,500 --> 01:10:16,083
right there...
watching me film him right now.

902
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,125
He's pulling out right now.

903
01:10:26,625 --> 01:10:30,833
I went out with my wife and two children.
I have two small boys.

904
01:10:31,083 --> 01:10:34,375
We walked out one day to run an errand,
and we're getting into the car,

905
01:10:34,625 --> 01:10:37,333
and a neighbor came over
and she said,

906
01:10:37,583 --> 01:10:41,250
"Hey, I don't want to freak you out,
but just up there,
907
01:10:41,500 --> 01:10:43,875
"there's a guy who's parked
across the street from my house

908
01:10:44,125 --> 01:10:46,375
"in an SUV,
and he's been there all day,

909
01:10:46,625 --> 01:10:48,666
"and I think he's watching
your house."

910
01:10:48,875 --> 01:10:50,083
So the first thing
I thought, of course,

911
01:10:50,291 --> 01:10:52,333
was that I knew that
Nan had had this experience

912
01:10:52,541 --> 01:10:54,750
and Megan had had
this experience.

913
01:10:57,250 --> 01:11:02,166
And so it felt of a piece
in terms of the M.O.

914
01:11:04,125 --> 01:11:09,125
When I was fact-checking my book, I asked
Purdue if they knew anything about

915
01:11:09,458 --> 01:11:13,291
these people who've been following
Nan, and Megan and me and...

916
01:11:13,541 --> 01:11:16,291
Purdue came back and said,

917
01:11:16,541 --> 01:11:18,583
"Absolutely not. Of course,
we would never do such a thing.

918
01:11:18,833 --> 01:11:22,500
"That's outrageous."
Really strenuously denying it and...
919
01:11:22,750 --> 01:11:26,833
in my queries to the Sacklers,
I asked the same thing and...

920
01:11:27,083 --> 01:11:30,833
There were some of the things I asked
about that they came back and denied.

921
01:11:31,083 --> 01:11:33,041
And this was not one of them.

922
01:11:34,250 --> 01:11:36,458
[street noise]

923
01:11:42,833 --> 01:11:45,291
Bob is one of
our board members.

924
01:11:47,041 --> 01:11:50,208
- Hi, how are you?
- Now, admittedly...

925
01:11:50,458 --> 01:11:52,000
It's a little crazy here.

926
01:11:54,375 --> 01:11:59,041
So has anybody had a Narcan kit before
or have been through a Narcan training?

927
01:11:59,291 --> 01:12:01,666
Yeah, I got a kit
a couple of weeks ago.

928
01:12:01,916 --> 01:12:04,666
I have a kit in my house,
but I haven't been trained.

929
01:12:05,166 --> 01:12:08,083
So I'm just going to go over
a couple of the essentials,

930
01:12:08,291 --> 01:12:11,500
signs and symptoms of an opiate overdose,
and how to use Narcan

931
01:12:11,750 --> 01:12:13,666
to reverse an opiate overdose, okay?

932
01:12:14,416 --> 01:12:17,958
So if you see somebody who you think
could be experiencing an opiate overdose,

933
01:12:18,208 --> 01:12:20,500
you say, "Are you okay?"
They don't respond.

934
01:12:20,750 --> 01:12:23,208
You do the sternal rub,
they still don't respond.

935
01:12:23,458 --> 01:12:24,416
You may shake them.

936
01:12:24,625 --> 01:12:27,166
If they still don't respond, that's
when you're gonna give Narcan.

937
01:12:27,541 --> 01:12:29,916
So you're going to give Narcan
and call 911.

938
01:12:30,166 --> 01:12:32,833
You can do whichever you want
to do first, but do both.

939
01:12:33,250 --> 01:12:36,291
Open it up, hold it.
Spray it up their nose, okay?

940
01:12:36,708 --> 01:12:39,208
If it's not an overdose, it's not going
to hurt them and it won't work.

941
01:12:39,375 --> 01:12:42,000
But if it is an overdose,
it's gonna save their life.

942
01:12:42,250 --> 01:12:43,291
Okay?

943
01:12:43,541 --> 01:12:48,166
Focusing on harm reduction is what's going
to bring people out of this crisis.
944
01:12:48,416 --> 01:12:52,125
Safe consumption sites, reducing
stigma and helping drug users

945
01:12:52,375 --> 01:12:54,833
is the long goal, so...

946
01:12:56,791 --> 01:12:59,166
[sound of train passing above]

947
01:13:04,375 --> 01:13:08,000
Okay, we're going to start the hearing.
Good morning.

948
01:13:08,166 --> 01:13:10,875
I'd like to welcome you
to today's hearing

949
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:15,416
on the adequacy of funding for
substance use disorder services.

950
01:13:15,666 --> 01:13:17,916
Our next witness is Nan Goldin,

951
01:13:18,083 --> 01:13:22,250
founder of Prescription
Addiction Intervention Now.

952
01:13:22,666 --> 01:13:26,208
I'm gonna speak, by and large,
from the personal experience.

953
01:13:26,458 --> 01:13:29,916
That maybe will help inform you
of what it means,

954
01:13:30,166 --> 01:13:32,833
some of these bills
that you're trying to pass,

955
01:13:33,083 --> 01:13:35,458
what it actually impacts
on a human being.

956
01:13:36,291 --> 01:13:41,041
I wouldn't have gotten off Oxy
without buprenorphine.

957
01:13:41,500 --> 01:13:45,750
On a small dose of buprenorphine,
cravings for opioids are reduced.

958
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:50,708
At larger doses, you can't even feel
the effects of opioids if you try.

959
01:13:50,916 --> 01:13:54,916
I was one of the lucky ones who was able
to access MAT immediately

960
01:13:55,166 --> 01:13:56,375
and afford good treatment.

961
01:13:56,875 --> 01:13:59,666
Doctors need to pay to train
and receive a waiver

962
01:13:59,916 --> 01:14:01,541
to prescribe buprenorphine,

963
01:14:01,791 --> 01:14:05,708
when no such certificate is required
to prescribe OxyContin.

964
01:14:06,125 --> 01:14:10,708
Again, this is a policy that increases
the stigma in the medical community

965
01:14:10,958 --> 01:14:13,541
about treating people
addicted to drugs.

966
01:14:13,791 --> 01:14:15,791
People need to be kept alive.

967
01:14:16,041 --> 01:14:20,083
Addiction is not a moral issue.
It is not a criminal issue.

968
01:14:20,333 --> 01:14:22,458
Harm reduction means not only
969
01:14:22,708 --> 01:14:25,833
recovering the harm caused
by the disease of addiction,

970
01:14:26,083 --> 01:14:30,000
but also the harm caused
by the social and moral assault

971
01:14:30,250 --> 01:14:33,083
on people with
substance use disorder.

972
01:14:35,083 --> 01:14:36,375
Thank you very much.

973
01:14:36,625 --> 01:14:40,416
It's important to hear from people
who take Medication-Assisted Treatment.

974
01:14:40,666 --> 01:14:42,458
- But I'm not ashamed of it.
- No.

975
01:14:42,625 --> 01:14:44,958
And it's not
my road to recovery.

976
01:14:45,208 --> 01:14:47,875
- It is my recovery.
- That's important to share.

977
01:14:48,125 --> 01:14:52,250
People think you have to be off everything
in order to be in recovery,

978
01:14:52,500 --> 01:14:54,333
and that's certainly not true.

979
01:14:54,583 --> 01:14:58,625
- Yeah, the stigma is terrible.
- Okay. Thank you so much.

980
01:15:16,833 --> 01:15:18,166
Lock arms?

981
01:15:22,208 --> 01:15:27,291
We joined with Housing Works
and Vocal New York,

982
01:15:27,541 --> 01:15:29,708
who really wanted
to do an action...

983
01:15:29,958 --> 01:15:31,916
- We are here...
- We are here...

984
01:15:32,291 --> 01:15:35,333
- to draw attention to...
- to draw attention to...

985
01:15:35,583 --> 01:15:39,708
- Overdose Awareness Day!
- Overdose Awareness Day!

986
01:15:40,083 --> 01:15:41,958
- No stigma!
- No shame!

987
01:15:42,166 --> 01:15:43,958
- No stigma!
- No shame!

988
01:15:44,125 --> 01:15:45,916
- No stigma!
- No shame!

989
01:15:46,083 --> 01:15:47,958
- No stigma!
- No shame!

990
01:15:49,333 --> 01:15:51,166
In order to do
the harm reduction,

991
01:15:51,416 --> 01:15:54,875
the safe consumption sites
invite people in and say,

992
01:15:55,125 --> 01:16:01,000
"Look... whatever you're dependent on
is not what we question right now.
993
01:16:01,250 --> 01:16:04,041
"We just want you to be able
to do it in a safe way.

994
01:16:04,291 --> 01:16:05,583
"Not put anybody at risk."

995
01:16:07,041 --> 01:16:09,791
"Here's how to shoot up
in a clean way."

996
01:16:10,458 --> 01:16:13,208
"You don't know what you bought,
we'll test it for you."

997
01:16:14,541 --> 01:16:18,250
- Hey Cuomo, what do you say?
- How many people died today?

998
01:16:19,291 --> 01:16:21,791
[chanting continues]

999
01:16:26,500 --> 01:16:30,666
No more deaths! No more deaths!
No more deaths!

1000
01:16:32,666 --> 01:16:36,166
[shouts and cheering]

1001
01:16:39,041 --> 01:16:40,000
[sound of slide projector]

1002
01:16:50,208 --> 01:16:54,875
I went to rehab
for the first time in 1988.

1003
01:16:58,958 --> 01:17:02,291
I had been kind of
isolated from my friends.

1004
01:17:04,875 --> 01:17:07,875
I thought I was going back
to my community...

1005
01:17:09,125 --> 01:17:12,958
And then I realized most of the
people were dead or dying.

1006
01:17:13,541 --> 01:17:15,416
We'll never be
silent again, Act Up!

1007
01:17:15,666 --> 01:17:17,958
We'll never be
silent again, Act Up!

1008
01:17:18,166 --> 01:17:20,708
[protesters continue shouting]

1009
01:17:25,166 --> 01:17:27,958
Act Up! Fight Back!
Fight AIDS!

1010
01:17:28,208 --> 01:17:31,166
Act Up! Fight Back!
Fight AIDS!

1011
01:17:32,500 --> 01:17:36,416
[screaming, cheering in street]

1012
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,041
It was like World War II.

1013
01:17:45,291 --> 01:17:49,416
We watched everybody get wiped out,
and there was nothing we could do.

1014
01:17:57,375 --> 01:18:02,125
I got a call from Artists Space,
and they asked me to curate a show.

1015
01:18:04,958 --> 01:18:08,000
I wanted the subject of it
to be AIDS.

1016
01:18:08,416 --> 01:18:12,291
And I was told there hadn't been
any shows about AIDS.

1017
01:18:17,041 --> 01:18:21,375
I asked all my friends
to contribute something
1018
01:18:21,625 --> 01:18:24,125
because I wanted it to be
a community.

1019
01:18:24,916 --> 01:18:27,208
It was the first show I curated.

1020
01:18:30,500 --> 01:18:33,208
Mortality no longer feels like
some abstraction

1021
01:18:33,458 --> 01:18:36,458
that I could push away
to the age of 80 or 90 or...

1022
01:18:36,708 --> 01:18:42,916
There's no longer a luxury of
pushing the idea of mortality away.

1023
01:18:46,291 --> 01:18:52,333
David Wojnarowicz was my spiritual guide.
He was my political guide.

1024
01:18:58,083 --> 01:18:59,875
"If you want to stop AIDS,
shoot the queers,"

1025
01:19:00,125 --> 01:19:01,791
says the governor of Texas
on the radio.

1026
01:19:02,083 --> 01:19:05,250
And his press secretary later claims
the governor was only joking,

1027
01:19:05,500 --> 01:19:07,458
and didn't know
the microphone was turned on.

1028
01:19:07,708 --> 01:19:10,958
And besides, he didn't think it would hurt
his chances for re-election anyways.

1029
01:19:11,208 --> 01:19:12,541
And I wake up every morning.

1030
01:19:12,750 --> 01:19:15,708
I wake up every morning in this
killing machine called America,

1031
01:19:15,958 --> 01:19:18,250
and I'm carrying this rage
like a blood-filled egg.

1032
01:19:18,500 --> 01:19:22,250
And there's a thin line, a thin line
between the inside and outside,

1033
01:19:22,500 --> 01:19:24,833
a thin line between thought
and action.

1034
01:19:25,083 --> 01:19:28,541
And that line is simply made up
of blood and muscle and bone.

1035
01:19:28,791 --> 01:19:31,125
I've been looking all my life
at the signs surrounding us,

1036
01:19:31,375 --> 01:19:33,000
in the media,
or on people's lips,

1037
01:19:33,250 --> 01:19:35,875
the religious types
outside St Patrick's Cathedral,

1038
01:19:36,125 --> 01:19:38,208
shouting to the men and women
in the gay parade:

1039
01:19:38,458 --> 01:19:41,666
"You won't be here next year.
You'll get AIDS and die! Ha ha!"

1040
01:19:48,250 --> 01:19:52,083
Nan Goldin curated this show
with the idea of

1041
01:19:52,375 --> 01:19:58,083
choosing the work of people that she knew
who were affected by AIDS,
1042
01:19:58,333 --> 01:20:00,583
who were living with AIDS.

1043
01:20:02,500 --> 01:20:06,041
She wanted to dispel
the notion of AIDS victim.

1044
01:20:07,791 --> 01:20:10,291
Now, I'm hardly a victim
if I can resist.

1045
01:20:10,541 --> 01:20:14,416
What I see is institutionalized
ignorance about this epidemic.

1046
01:20:17,791 --> 01:20:21,166
She also wanted to deal
with issues of sexuality

1047
01:20:21,416 --> 01:20:23,958
in the midst of this epidemic.

1048
01:20:26,583 --> 01:20:29,625
That there was sexuality,
there was safe sexuality,

1049
01:20:30,083 --> 01:20:33,708
and that this was going
to continue to occur,

1050
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:38,458
despite the silencing of that information
by a church or government.

1051
01:20:41,416 --> 01:20:44,083
There is really
important work in the show.

1052
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:48,916
Like David's.
Like Peter Hujar's.

1053
01:20:51,750 --> 01:20:53,750
Philip-Lorca diCorcia.

1054
01:20:54,958 --> 01:20:56,750
Mark Morrisroe.

1055
01:20:57,750 --> 01:20:59,666
Greer Lankton.

1056
01:21:00,750 --> 01:21:02,291
Darrel Ellis.

1057
01:21:02,750 --> 01:21:06,875
People both really well-known
and people unknown.

1058
01:21:09,125 --> 01:21:12,875
It was about
the loss of a community.

1059
01:21:13,833 --> 01:21:17,458
And trying to keep
people's legacy alive.

1060
01:21:23,333 --> 01:21:26,625
I called David and asked him
to write for my catalogue.

1061
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:32,541
I sent him pictures of
some of the work that was in it,

1062
01:21:32,791 --> 01:21:35,500
and I said, "You can
write whatever you want.

1063
01:21:35,750 --> 01:21:37,916
"I'll support
whatever you write."

1064
01:21:38,333 --> 01:21:41,208
I was asked to write
a catalogue essay

1065
01:21:41,458 --> 01:21:45,458
pertaining to a show dealing with AIDS
and a community of people.

1066
01:21:45,833 --> 01:21:50,375
So I started talking about what I was
experiencing right there in my life and
1067
01:21:50,625 --> 01:21:54,625
dealing with image and representation
and everything seen through the framework

1068
01:21:54,875 --> 01:21:58,583
of having a taboo disease
in this society.

1069
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:03,333
I love that this tiny, little,
skinny catalogue

1070
01:22:03,583 --> 01:22:07,083
with thumbnail reproductions
in black and white

1071
01:22:07,416 --> 01:22:11,208
could cause a major
political shake-up.

1072
01:22:13,750 --> 01:22:15,666
At the Artists Space Gallery
in Tribeca,

1073
01:22:15,916 --> 01:22:18,583
preparations are still underway
for next week's exhibit,

1074
01:22:18,833 --> 01:22:22,166
but the National Endowment of
the Arts has canceled its grant.

1075
01:22:22,416 --> 01:22:24,625
The National Endowment for
the Arts refuses to sponsor

1076
01:22:24,875 --> 01:22:26,750
an art show
here in New York City

1077
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:29,333
because it deals with
AIDS and homosexuality

1078
01:22:29,583 --> 01:22:31,916
and also offends
some political sensibilities.

1079
01:22:32,166 --> 01:22:34,541
One thing I want to point out is
that it's artist-organized.

1080
01:22:34,791 --> 01:22:37,708
It's organized by a photographer
named Nan Goldin...

1081
01:22:37,958 --> 01:22:42,208
Susan Wyatt, the director,
got nervous about David's writing,

1082
01:22:42,458 --> 01:22:45,208
and so she took it to the NEA.

1083
01:22:45,750 --> 01:22:49,250
The catalogue reportedly
criticizes Senator Jesse Helms

1084
01:22:49,500 --> 01:22:52,000
for his position
on homosexuality and art,

1085
01:22:52,333 --> 01:22:57,250
and calls New York Cardinal O'Connor
"a fat cannibal in a black skirt."

1086
01:22:59,291 --> 01:23:02,166
- You think the phone is gonna ring again?
- Any minute.

1087
01:23:02,375 --> 01:23:03,875
About what? What do you
think it's gonna be?

1088
01:23:04,083 --> 01:23:06,250
It's probably Cardinal O'Connor,

1089
01:23:06,500 --> 01:23:09,916
expressing his direct support
of my statements.

1090
01:23:10,291 --> 01:23:16,458
And admitting that since he does feast on
the body of Christ, that he is a cannibal,
1091
01:23:16,708 --> 01:23:19,875
and that, yes, he does have a penchant
for black skirts.

1092
01:23:20,083 --> 01:23:24,541
He is fat, translucent and immoral.

1093
01:23:29,583 --> 01:23:33,833
After the news first broke,
David called, really upset,

1094
01:23:34,083 --> 01:23:38,125
and told me that they were
trying to make him take out

1095
01:23:38,375 --> 01:23:41,208
"fat fucking cannibal in black skirts."

1096
01:23:43,125 --> 01:23:45,291
I think it's very dangerous
and very scary.

1097
01:23:45,541 --> 01:23:49,375
I see an outbreak of McCarthyism
and a blacklisting of artists...

1098
01:23:49,625 --> 01:23:51,833
if this is continued
to allow to happen.

1099
01:23:54,750 --> 01:23:59,041
What happened is that the artistic focus
of the show really was lost.

1100
01:23:59,333 --> 01:24:03,875
And what turned out to be
the show in its present form,

1101
01:24:04,125 --> 01:24:07,125
was not and is not sound artistically.

1102
01:24:08,500 --> 01:24:12,166
Composer Leonard Bernstein managed
to become embroiled in the controversy.

1103
01:24:12,375 --> 01:24:15,291
This after declining
the National Medal of Arts

1104
01:24:15,541 --> 01:24:18,791
because of the NEA action
taking away the grant.

1105
01:24:19,958 --> 01:24:23,666
And the thing that makes me laugh is,
if at this point in time,

1106
01:24:23,916 --> 01:24:28,125
images and words that can be made
by an individual have such power

1107
01:24:28,375 --> 01:24:33,000
to create this storm of controversy...
Isn't that great?

1108
01:24:33,166 --> 01:24:36,708
It means that the control of information
has a crack in its wall.

1109
01:24:37,750 --> 01:24:40,083
[phone rings]

1110
01:24:41,875 --> 01:24:44,333
Hello. Yeah.

1111
01:24:45,250 --> 01:24:46,416
Hi...

1112
01:24:48,333 --> 01:24:49,666
Well, it's just been a zoo.

1113
01:24:49,916 --> 01:24:53,041
Senator Alfonse D'Amato tore up
an art catalogue on the Senate floor...

1114
01:24:53,333 --> 01:24:56,333
How can they ignore
the political aspect of AIDS?

1115
01:24:56,541 --> 01:25:00,416
Is the fact that I may be dying of AIDS
in 1989, is that not political?
1116
01:25:00,666 --> 01:25:02,416
Is the fact that I don't
have health insurance

1117
01:25:02,583 --> 01:25:04,666
and I don't have access
to adequate health care?

1118
01:25:04,916 --> 01:25:07,083
Is that not political?

1119
01:25:12,750 --> 01:25:15,125
[♪]

1120
01:25:20,291 --> 01:25:25,666
Vittorio was given three months to live
and he started drawing cartoons.

1121
01:25:33,916 --> 01:25:36,791
He was still alive
a year and a half later.

1122
01:25:39,958 --> 01:25:43,291
That's the wake of Vittorio.

1123
01:25:50,208 --> 01:25:52,625
Cookie had already lost her voice.

1124
01:25:53,500 --> 01:25:58,750
She was constantly writing so people
could see what she needed and wanted.

1125
01:26:00,750 --> 01:26:04,208
Then Sharon came back
to take care of Cookie.

1126
01:26:08,458 --> 01:26:11,250
The picture of Sharon nursing Cookie...

1127
01:26:11,958 --> 01:26:14,458
To me, this is the meaning of love.

1128
01:26:20,666 --> 01:26:22,208
I was raging.
1129
01:26:22,458 --> 01:26:27,125
"Call this doctor. Call that doctor.
Someone's gonna be able to help her.

1130
01:26:27,250 --> 01:26:30,875
"There's got to be something.
There's a treatment out there somewhere."

1131
01:26:31,375 --> 01:26:33,833
And then to realize
there was no doctor to call.

1132
01:26:34,083 --> 01:26:36,625
It was just... I didn't get it.

1133
01:26:54,125 --> 01:26:57,166
We had Cookie's memorial
at St Mark's Church,

1134
01:26:57,416 --> 01:27:00,208
and the next day,
"Witnesses" opened.

1135
01:27:03,333 --> 01:27:05,375
My name is David Wojnarowicz.

1136
01:27:05,625 --> 01:27:07,583
I'd like to read this
in memory of Peter Hujar,

1137
01:27:07,833 --> 01:27:12,708
Keith Davis, Bebe Smith,
Cookie Mueller, Vittorio.

1138
01:27:13,666 --> 01:27:16,708
One of the first steps in making
the private grief public

1139
01:27:16,958 --> 01:27:19,000
is the ritual of memorials,

1140
01:27:19,250 --> 01:27:22,250
and I've attended a number of memorials
in the last five years,

1141
01:27:22,500 --> 01:27:23,625
and at the last one I attended,

1142
01:27:23,875 --> 01:27:27,250
I suddenly found myself experiencing
something akin to rage.

1143
01:27:27,583 --> 01:27:28,875
What made me angry,

1144
01:27:29,125 --> 01:27:32,333
what made me angry was realizing
that the memorial had little reverberation

1145
01:27:32,583 --> 01:27:33,833
outside the room it was held in,

1146
01:27:34,291 --> 01:27:35,666
and at the same time,
worry that friends

1147
01:27:35,916 --> 01:27:37,708
will solely become
professional pallbearers,

1148
01:27:37,958 --> 01:27:40,666
waiting for each death of their lovers,
friends and neighbors,

1149
01:27:40,916 --> 01:27:42,791
and polishing
their funereal speeches,

1150
01:27:43,250 --> 01:27:47,208
perfecting their rituals of death rather
than a relatively simple ritual of life,

1151
01:27:47,458 --> 01:27:49,625
such as screaming
in the streets.

1152
01:27:50,875 --> 01:27:54,958
Not the church! Not the state!
We decide what art is great!

1153
01:27:55,500 --> 01:27:58,625
[protesters chanting]
1154
01:28:01,041 --> 01:28:02,708
Step on the sidewalk,
can't stay in the street.

1155
01:28:02,958 --> 01:28:05,916
And I imagine what it would be like
if friends had a demonstration

1156
01:28:06,166 --> 01:28:09,000
each time a lover or a friend
or a stranger died of AIDS.

1157
01:28:09,250 --> 01:28:10,666
And I imagine
what it would be like,

1158
01:28:10,916 --> 01:28:13,416
each time a lover or friend
or stranger died of AIDS,

1159
01:28:13,666 --> 01:28:14,791
or of this disease,

1160
01:28:15,041 --> 01:28:17,416
their friends, lovers or neighbors
would take their dead body

1161
01:28:17,583 --> 01:28:21,250
and drive with it in a car
100 mph to Washington, D.C.,

1162
01:28:21,500 --> 01:28:23,166
and blast through the gates
of the White House

1163
01:28:23,375 --> 01:28:25,166
and come to a screeching halt
before the entrance,

1164
01:28:25,416 --> 01:28:28,833
and then dump their lifeless
forms on the front steps.

1165
01:28:30,041 --> 01:28:32,666
But bottom line,
even a tiny charcoal scratch
1166
01:28:32,916 --> 01:28:35,791
done as a gesture to mark
a person's response to this epidemic,

1167
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:39,291
means whole worlds to me,
if it's hung in public.

1168
01:28:39,666 --> 01:28:43,666
And bottom line, we have to find our own
forms of gesture and communication.

1169
01:28:43,916 --> 01:28:46,875
You can never depend
on the mass media to reflect us

1170
01:28:47,125 --> 01:28:49,958
or our needs
or our states of mind.

1171
01:28:50,375 --> 01:28:52,166
[chanting]

1172
01:28:52,416 --> 01:28:56,541
NEA, stop your tricks!
Art is sex and politics!

1173
01:28:59,375 --> 01:29:03,833
Mark Morrisroe died
soon after it opened.

1174
01:29:05,541 --> 01:29:07,500
[♪]

1175
01:29:08,666 --> 01:29:12,250
David Wojnarowicz died in 1992.

1176
01:29:16,333 --> 01:29:19,625
People don't really understand
the anger, and frustration,

1177
01:29:19,875 --> 01:29:22,541
and pain of those years.

1178
01:29:26,708 --> 01:29:29,833
They don't understand
what we went through.

1179
01:29:35,708 --> 01:29:37,458
It's still killing people.

1180
01:29:39,166 --> 01:29:41,416
It never went away.

1181
01:29:45,125 --> 01:29:48,708
David Armstrong died in 2014.

1182
01:29:52,541 --> 01:29:56,125
You know, we spent
a lot of our life together.

1183
01:30:00,583 --> 01:30:03,083
Decades of friendship.

1184
01:30:24,416 --> 01:30:28,125
[protestors chant in French]

1185
01:30:32,083 --> 01:30:35,541
[chanting in French continues]

1186
01:30:42,875 --> 01:30:46,958
Many people have started to refuse
donations from the Sacklers,

1187
01:30:47,208 --> 01:30:51,250
including the Guggenheim Museum,
the Met Museum, the Tate,

1188
01:30:51,500 --> 01:30:56,291
and the National Portrait Gallery,
as well as medical institutions worldwide.

1189
01:30:56,583 --> 01:31:00,791
We need to demand that
the Louvre stand by and hear us,

1190
01:31:01,125 --> 01:31:03,166
and be the first
to take down their name.

1191
01:31:07,541 --> 01:31:10,791
[drumming solemnly]
1192
01:31:52,208 --> 01:31:56,041
- Can I ask you a question?
- What?

1193
01:31:56,333 --> 01:32:00,083
- When you overdosed, were you alone?
- Yeah.

1194
01:32:02,083 --> 01:32:03,583
Totally.

1195
01:32:07,625 --> 01:32:12,000
I thought it was dope,
so I snorted it and it was fentanyl.

1196
01:32:13,666 --> 01:32:18,666
And a lot of people want fentanyl,
but I was not prepared for fentanyl.

1197
01:32:18,916 --> 01:32:24,333
And I just went out like that.
I just went out.

1198
01:32:26,250 --> 01:32:30,416
And then I came back.
And then I went out again.

1199
01:32:31,625 --> 01:32:33,958
Nobody brought me back.
I just came back.

1200
01:32:35,458 --> 01:32:39,291
I'm so lucky
that I came back by myself.

1201
01:32:45,416 --> 01:32:50,583
I mean, all the judgment of people
who are addicted to drugs

1202
01:32:50,833 --> 01:32:52,666
are stigmatized
without understanding

1203
01:32:52,916 --> 01:32:57,166
what the experience of
not having these drugs is.
1204
01:33:00,625 --> 01:33:03,208
To have to go
through withdrawal.

1205
01:33:04,500 --> 01:33:07,375
Your brain is stripped of
its opioid receptors,

1206
01:33:07,625 --> 01:33:11,500
so you have no protection
from any kind of pain.

1207
01:33:13,833 --> 01:33:16,125
It's not just the physical part.

1208
01:33:17,291 --> 01:33:20,625
It's like... the darkest...

1209
01:33:22,291 --> 01:33:26,083
you can go.
It's a darkness of the soul.

1210
01:33:28,708 --> 01:33:30,625
It's unbearable.

1211
01:33:36,416 --> 01:33:39,000
[♪]

1212
01:33:48,625 --> 01:33:50,666
[phone ringing]

1213
01:33:51,500 --> 01:33:53,208
Okay. I am here.

1214
01:33:53,458 --> 01:33:55,833
You can come by
whenever you want.

1215
01:33:56,291 --> 01:33:57,250
- Hello
- Hi.

1216
01:33:57,500 --> 01:34:00,583
- What did you say?
- I'm here at the restaurant.
1217
01:34:00,833 --> 01:34:02,250
You can come here
whenever you want.

1218
01:34:02,500 --> 01:34:05,458
- Great. How many did you get?
- All that you wanted.

1219
01:34:05,666 --> 01:34:06,916
[phone hangs up]

1220
01:34:13,958 --> 01:34:16,250
[♪]

1221
01:34:19,583 --> 01:34:21,208
[phone ringing]

1222
01:34:21,708 --> 01:34:23,041
- Yeah.
- Hi.

1223
01:34:23,583 --> 01:34:25,541
- Who is it?
- You still in the bed?

1224
01:34:25,791 --> 01:34:28,166
Oh, no, I never went to sleep.

1225
01:34:28,958 --> 01:34:32,625
You know what really hit me as peculiar?

1226
01:34:32,958 --> 01:34:35,583
And I've been thinking about it
all morning.

1227
01:34:36,166 --> 01:34:42,041
Misery does not love company.
Misery loves attention... in this case.

1228
01:34:43,250 --> 01:34:45,708
[♪]

1229
01:34:59,083 --> 01:35:01,583
[sound of windshield wipers]
1230
01:35:25,750 --> 01:35:30,500
The supply has become very dirty.
Basically lethal.

1231
01:35:35,291 --> 01:35:37,208
Fentanyl is in everything now.

1232
01:35:38,583 --> 01:35:40,250
Isn't this fentanyl here?

1233
01:35:40,500 --> 01:35:44,541
So fentanyl has like one big peak,
coke has two peaks right here.

1234
01:35:44,791 --> 01:35:46,375
And they're at
slightly different numbers.

1235
01:35:46,625 --> 01:35:50,708
- Okay.
- Here you can see this deviates.

1236
01:35:59,333 --> 01:36:02,083
You want to show them
the bloody ones you did?

1237
01:36:02,916 --> 01:36:06,416
No, but it's good 'cause
then it will be obvious it's not real.

1238
01:36:12,125 --> 01:36:14,750
- What is our messaging?
- Our messaging is...

1239
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:17,666
"Purdue is bankrupt,
but the Sacklers aren't.

1240
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:21,000
"Their personal wealth has
all been made from OxyContin

1241
01:36:21,250 --> 01:36:23,083
"and it needs to be
taken from them."

1242
01:36:23,500 --> 01:36:27,458
I think the messaging is the Sacklers
are getting away with murder.

1243
01:36:27,833 --> 01:36:30,958
We want their money
and where we want to spend it.

1244
01:36:32,791 --> 01:36:36,208
The company ends up
declaring bankruptcy.

1245
01:36:36,208 --> 01:36:40,250
That's this kind of amazing
escape hatch because

1246
01:36:41,458 --> 01:36:44,500
what happens is that Purdue,
the company, says,

1247
01:36:44,750 --> 01:36:46,291
"Listen, we realize
there's all these lawsuits,

1248
01:36:46,541 --> 01:36:51,541
"but we don't have the resources
to fight or settle them all,

1249
01:36:51,750 --> 01:36:53,625
"and so instead we're gonna
declare bankruptcy

1250
01:36:53,833 --> 01:36:55,875
"because our coffers
are almost empty."

1251
01:36:56,625 --> 01:36:59,416
But the reason that the coffers
are almost empty, we now know,

1252
01:36:59,666 --> 01:37:04,291
is that behind the scenes for a decade
leading up to this bankruptcy plea,

1253
01:37:04,583 --> 01:37:08,291
the Sacklers have been quietly
siphoning money out of the company.
1254
01:37:08,541 --> 01:37:14,916
So they took more than $10 billion out of
the company before it declares bankruptcy.

1255
01:37:15,166 --> 01:37:17,416
- Whose money?
- Our money!

1256
01:37:17,708 --> 01:37:20,458
- Whose blood?
- Our blood!

1257
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:23,916
[protesters chanting]

1258
01:37:32,375 --> 01:37:37,000
- You think they could get away with this?
- Of course. Yes.

1259
01:37:37,125 --> 01:37:39,666
I never expected that
they'd be held accountable.

1260
01:37:39,958 --> 01:37:44,083
I don't think that much money can be
taken away from a billionaire family.

1261
01:37:47,833 --> 01:37:49,166
[cracking egg]

1262
01:37:49,458 --> 01:37:55,750
The fact that a bankruptcy court is
deciding a public crisis issue is crazy.

1263
01:37:57,083 --> 01:37:58,125
That's the problem.

1264
01:37:58,416 --> 01:38:00,458
So I've been involved
since the beginning basically.

1265
01:38:00,583 --> 01:38:02,208
At some point,
a lightbulb went on and I was like:

1266
01:38:02,333 --> 01:38:05,208
"Let's bring the activism
into the courtroom,"

1267
01:38:05,333 --> 01:38:10,041
and ever since then,
we've been fighting in the court.

1268
01:38:10,291 --> 01:38:13,458
And we weren't exactly welcome
the first time.

1269
01:38:14,583 --> 01:38:20,000
You know, we're like little assassins,
we go in and get out.

1270
01:38:20,916 --> 01:38:25,291
I told the lawyer for Purdue
that I'm doing it pro-bono.

1271
01:38:25,541 --> 01:38:27,541
He was like, "What?"

1272
01:38:31,333 --> 01:38:33,375
He was like,
"What? Wait, what?"

1273
01:38:33,958 --> 01:38:36,541
You know, because they spend
$30 million a month

1274
01:38:36,791 --> 01:38:40,250
on legal fees and
professional fees in this case.

1275
01:38:41,750 --> 01:38:46,583
There's like 80-something attorneys
and people on this call.

1276
01:38:46,833 --> 01:38:48,375
That's a lot.

1277
01:38:49,083 --> 01:38:54,666
Good morning, this is Judge Drain.
This is a completely telephonic hearing.

1278
01:38:56,000 --> 01:39:00,791
We're here today in re:
Purdue Pharma L.P.

1279
01:39:01,791 --> 01:39:04,166
Your Honor, we think
there's a huge mistake here.

1280
01:39:04,416 --> 01:39:07,708
We think the process that
the DOJ went through was wrong.

1281
01:39:07,958 --> 01:39:11,875
We think that the results,
which are completely vague and baffling

1282
01:39:12,125 --> 01:39:13,833
to me and my clients, is wrong.

1283
01:39:15,041 --> 01:39:18,250
The DOJ neither invited input
from Purdue's victims,

1284
01:39:18,500 --> 01:39:22,250
nor the public, nor apparently
any members of the House and Senate.

1285
01:39:22,666 --> 01:39:27,916
The negotiation between these two parties,
the DOJ and Purdue/The Sacklers alone,

1286
01:39:28,166 --> 01:39:31,541
is not sufficient to make
this kind of policy decision.

1287
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:34,500
My clients are like
the Ghost of Christmas Past,

1288
01:39:34,750 --> 01:39:36,458
they're here to tell you in 2007,

1289
01:39:36,708 --> 01:39:40,208
they saw there was a problem,
the problem got worse,

1290
01:39:40,458 --> 01:39:43,416
and this is our moment,
their moment, to tell you
1291
01:39:43,666 --> 01:39:47,041
we gotta make sure
that the future is safer.

1292
01:39:48,041 --> 01:39:52,125
Okay, well...
All right, thank you.

1293
01:39:52,708 --> 01:39:56,500
Good morning, Your Honor, and good morning
to everyone who is on the line.

1294
01:39:56,666 --> 01:39:59,083
Your Honor, Mr. Quinn
many times used the phrase

1295
01:39:59,333 --> 01:40:00,916
"Purdue/The Sacklers,"

1296
01:40:01,166 --> 01:40:05,291
the kind of suggestion that Purdue
and the Sacklers are in this together

1297
01:40:05,541 --> 01:40:07,166
is really not helpful.

1298
01:40:07,416 --> 01:40:09,458
And it's just, it's not fair.

1299
01:40:13,541 --> 01:40:15,500
This is so depressing.

1300
01:40:15,750 --> 01:40:20,083
Thank you so much, Mike, thank you
so much for going out there and battling.

1301
01:40:20,333 --> 01:40:24,250
I feel proud to be doing it,
and, whatever, we're in it.

1302
01:40:24,500 --> 01:40:27,500
The fact that our group
is in the bankruptcy,

1303
01:40:27,750 --> 01:40:30,500
at the front of the bankruptcy, fighting
every single thing, tooth and nail,

1304
01:40:30,625 --> 01:40:32,958
- is pretty amazing.
- Yeah, it's pretty funny.

1305
01:40:32,958 --> 01:40:34,291
It's fucking crazy.

1306
01:40:34,625 --> 01:40:37,041
Is there any chance
of criminal charges?

1307
01:40:37,166 --> 01:40:38,000
No.

1308
01:40:38,125 --> 01:40:41,750
The way the plan's structured,
if the DOJ filed

1309
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:44,291
criminal charges
against the Sacklers now,

1310
01:40:44,541 --> 01:40:46,916
it would blow up
the whole bankruptcy.

1311
01:40:47,166 --> 01:40:50,625
So effectively, they just dodged
criminal liability.

1312
01:41:08,125 --> 01:41:10,750
We followed these people
into bankruptcy court

1313
01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:15,416
and we're watching them completely
manipulate the justice system.

1314
01:41:15,666 --> 01:41:18,833
There's no justice for us,
only for billionaires.

1315
01:41:19,041 --> 01:41:22,333
So all we can hope is that the money
in the settlement

1316
01:41:22,666 --> 01:41:26,458
that goes to the states,
goes to the right places,

1317
01:41:26,708 --> 01:41:30,000
that it goes to harm reduction,
and not policing.

1318
01:41:30,291 --> 01:41:31,958
[cheering, applause]

1319
01:41:32,250 --> 01:41:35,458
That it goes to groups like you
that are saving lives.

1320
01:41:42,666 --> 01:41:44,916
This is a proceeding in federal court.

1321
01:41:45,166 --> 01:41:47,041
It is being held remotely,

1322
01:41:47,916 --> 01:41:51,875
but the rules and decorum
of a federal court apply.

1323
01:41:54,833 --> 01:41:55,916
Yeah.

1324
01:41:58,333 --> 01:42:03,541
So let me confirm,
I see David Sackler on the screen,

1325
01:42:03,791 --> 01:42:06,458
and I see Theresa Sackler.

1326
01:42:07,500 --> 01:42:10,708
Richard Sackler is on the phone

1327
01:42:10,958 --> 01:42:14,166
and will stay on the phone
throughout this proceeding.

1328
01:42:14,666 --> 01:42:17,458
Dr. Sackler, can you confirm
that for me?

1329
01:42:18,208 --> 01:42:23,333
Yes, Your Honor, I am here
on the phone and I'm listening.

1330
01:42:23,625 --> 01:42:27,708
Before we start, there's one clarification
I wanted to make:

1331
01:42:27,958 --> 01:42:31,000
I believe Richard said
that he is listening.

1332
01:42:31,333 --> 01:42:34,416
I believe that he's also supposed
to say that he is watching,

1333
01:42:34,541 --> 01:42:37,208
he's supposed to be watching
the video but not seen.

1334
01:42:37,208 --> 01:42:39,166
Can he confirm that?

1335
01:42:40,458 --> 01:42:44,875
I can confirm that, I saw...
I've seen everything.

1336
01:42:45,208 --> 01:42:49,500
Okay, that's important, and thank you
for raising that, Mr. Price.

1337
01:42:49,750 --> 01:42:53,791
All right, the first person who will speak
today is Tiffinee Scott.

1338
01:42:53,916 --> 01:42:55,583
[deep breath]

1339
01:42:57,125 --> 01:43:02,500
Richard. David. Theresa.

1340
01:43:02,958 --> 01:43:04,250
We have never met,

1341
01:43:04,625 --> 01:43:09,208
but I feel like I already have a
relationship with you due to OxyContin.

1342
01:43:10,208 --> 01:43:13,333
Have you ever provided
Narcan to one of your children?

1343
01:43:13,583 --> 01:43:16,291
Have you revived one of
your children from an overdose?

1344
01:43:16,541 --> 01:43:17,375
I have.

1345
01:43:17,583 --> 01:43:20,041
There are no words
to describe my pain.

1346
01:43:20,208 --> 01:43:24,375
In May of 2020, she was found
unresponsive, lifeless...

1347
01:43:24,625 --> 01:43:28,083
lifeless in bed by me,
her mother.

1348
01:43:28,500 --> 01:43:32,166
The deceit and horror you all caused,
shame on you.

1349
01:43:32,625 --> 01:43:35,791
I remember the day Trent told me
he was addicted to OxyContin.

1350
01:43:36,041 --> 01:43:38,708
He called me from the campus
of the University of Alabama.

1351
01:43:38,958 --> 01:43:41,500
I could tell in his voice,
there was great fear.

1352
01:43:41,750 --> 01:43:45,458
I drove the three hours, he met me
in tears, we wept together.

1353
01:43:45,750 --> 01:43:49,708
"Dad, I can't stop taking Oxy.
Dad, I'm afraid I'm going to die."

1354
01:43:49,958 --> 01:43:51,833
- And he did.
- This is so hard.

1355
01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:56,833
I encountered opioids for the first time
shortly after you launched OxyContin.

1356
01:43:57,083 --> 01:44:01,583
And I am one of the living survivors
of your monumental greed.

1357
01:44:02,041 --> 01:44:03,791
I hope that every face,

1358
01:44:04,041 --> 01:44:08,750
every single victim's face
haunts your every waking moment...

1359
01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:11,541
- It won't.
- ...and your sleeping ones, too.

1360
01:44:11,833 --> 01:44:12,916
Thank you.

1361
01:44:13,208 --> 01:44:16,083
The next person to speak
is Nan Goldin.

1362
01:44:16,583 --> 01:44:20,208
It's nice to finally see
the Sacklers, face-to-face.

1363
01:44:20,666 --> 01:44:25,416
The Sacklers' so-called apology,
which was mandated by this settlement,

1364
01:44:25,708 --> 01:44:29,333
is insulting to all of us
who have been damaged by them.

1365
01:44:29,750 --> 01:44:35,375
One family is largely responsible
for the onset of this crisis

1366
01:44:35,666 --> 01:44:39,708
that has led to the deaths
of over half a million Americans,

1367
01:44:40,291 --> 01:44:44,166
and caused irreparable damage
for generations to come.

1368
01:44:44,666 --> 01:44:49,625
Yet their settlement grants them immunity,
not just for themselves,

1369
01:44:49,875 --> 01:44:52,833
but for generations
of Sacklers to come.

1370
01:44:53,375 --> 01:44:56,416
Purdue has been found guilty
of federal crimes,

1371
01:44:56,666 --> 01:44:59,750
but its private owners
have never been prosecuted.

1372
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:04,208
We hope the Justice Department
will pursue criminal charges.

1373
01:45:04,458 --> 01:45:05,375
Thank you.

1374
01:45:07,083 --> 01:45:08,583
Okay, thank you.

1375
01:45:10,833 --> 01:45:15,000
[woman screaming, panicked]

1376
01:45:17,916 --> 01:45:20,000
They're already on the way,
they've already been dispatched.

1377
01:45:20,250 --> 01:45:21,416
Has he taken anything?
1378
01:45:21,666 --> 01:45:24,041
I just don't know.
He has in the past.

1379
01:45:25,041 --> 01:45:27,333
[woman screaming]

1380
01:45:27,791 --> 01:45:29,041
Oh, my God.

1381
01:45:32,500 --> 01:45:35,000
- You said he's 20 years old?
- Yes.

1382
01:45:35,250 --> 01:45:37,083
- What's his name?
- Pardon me?

1383
01:45:37,333 --> 01:45:39,708
- What's his name?
- Bryan...

1384
01:45:40,375 --> 01:45:43,041
- We're on the way, okay?
- Thank you, sir.

1385
01:45:45,125 --> 01:45:47,791
4,804 days.

1386
01:45:48,041 --> 01:45:50,083
Richard, if you're still listening,

1387
01:45:50,333 --> 01:45:54,250
that's how many days
since I made that horrifying call.

1388
01:45:54,541 --> 01:45:56,500
I have lived with
the pain and heartache

1389
01:45:56,750 --> 01:46:01,958
as a result of the loss of my only child,
a pain you will never understand.

1390
01:46:02,208 --> 01:46:06,458
I can only echo
the pain and suffering

1391
01:46:07,458 --> 01:46:11,750
that Kristy feels and that all of us
that are here today feel.

1392
01:46:12,833 --> 01:46:17,791
I want to point out to the Sacklers that
by the time this two-hour hearing is over,

1393
01:46:17,958 --> 01:46:22,625
you can add 16 more people
to your death list.

1394
01:46:37,291 --> 01:46:43,041
I asked my father for records
from the hospitals she'd been in.

1395
01:46:45,208 --> 01:46:49,125
And he gave them to me
without reading them himself.

1396
01:46:55,125 --> 01:46:57,375
So this box came...

1397
01:46:57,625 --> 01:47:01,833
"The Box," I think of it as,
with the primary documents.

1398
01:47:02,458 --> 01:47:05,083
[♪]

1399
01:47:07,416 --> 01:47:13,750
There was the history of Barbara for me
to read and I was terrified.

1400
01:47:14,375 --> 01:47:17,291
I wanted to know,
but I didn't want to know.

1401
01:47:18,208 --> 01:47:21,166
[♪]

1402
01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:34,458
I didn't understand that the first place
she was sent was actually an orphanage.
1403
01:47:38,416 --> 01:47:42,083
And then she burned down
the curtains and ran away.

1404
01:47:45,041 --> 01:47:48,500
She's described as a
"rebellious adolescent."

1405
01:47:58,666 --> 01:48:03,083
It says in the interviews
that the psychiatrist thought that

1406
01:48:03,333 --> 01:48:06,875
Mrs. Goldin should be in the hospital,
not Miss Goldin.

1407
01:48:07,125 --> 01:48:10,750
And that's actually written
in the hospital record.

1408
01:48:11,875 --> 01:48:14,125
[♪]

1409
01:48:17,166 --> 01:48:22,833
My mother had been sexually abused
for years by a family member.

1410
01:48:25,625 --> 01:48:30,541
And when my sister hit puberty,
my mother couldn't cope with it.

1411
01:48:38,291 --> 01:48:42,291
My sister didn't have any outlet.
She didn't have any context.

1412
01:48:42,541 --> 01:48:44,625
It was not mental illness.

1413
01:48:51,500 --> 01:48:55,250
I just knew how hard it was
for her to be alive.

1414
01:48:58,625 --> 01:49:01,083
She wanted a home so badly.

1415
01:49:02,833 --> 01:49:07,541
If she had found people,
if she'd been loved,

1416
01:49:08,791 --> 01:49:10,916
she would have survived.

1417
01:49:19,583 --> 01:49:21,875
[♪]

1418
01:49:27,958 --> 01:49:31,208
[sound of locomotive
approaching]

1419
01:49:35,541 --> 01:49:37,583
[locomotive speeding by]

1420
01:49:37,875 --> 01:49:40,583
Persons in the area told police
they had seen Miss Goldin

1421
01:49:40,833 --> 01:49:42,000
a short time before

1422
01:49:42,208 --> 01:49:45,250
when she asked when
the next train was due to pass.

1423
01:49:45,500 --> 01:49:50,041
Shortly before 5:30 p.m., persons said,
Miss Goldin put her pocketbook

1424
01:49:50,291 --> 01:49:54,333
on the ground next to the tracks,
then lay down across the tracks

1425
01:49:54,583 --> 01:49:57,166
as the Capitol Limited approached.

1426
01:49:57,416 --> 01:50:02,166
The train's engineer told police
they saw her and nailed the brakes,

1427
01:50:02,416 --> 01:50:05,000
but were unable to stop the train.

1428
01:50:05,250 --> 01:50:09,333
Pathological examiner
ruled her death as a suicide.

1429
01:50:09,583 --> 01:50:15,458
Other significant conditions contributing
to death: severe mental depression.

1430
01:50:28,125 --> 01:50:31,416
I mean, that's the problem,
you grow up being told,

1431
01:50:31,666 --> 01:50:34,375
"That didn't happen.
You didn't see that.

1432
01:50:34,625 --> 01:50:38,333
"You didn't hear that."
And what do you do?

1433
01:50:38,583 --> 01:50:41,750
How do you believe yourself?
How do you trust yourself?

1434
01:50:41,958 --> 01:50:44,625
How do you continue
to trust yourself?

1435
01:50:44,750 --> 01:50:47,625
And then how do you
show the world

1436
01:50:47,791 --> 01:50:51,875
that you did experience that,
that you did hear that?

1437
01:50:52,125 --> 01:50:55,333
So that's the reason
I take pictures.

1438
01:51:04,958 --> 01:51:07,958
- Nan, what are you...?
- Beautiful, you look beautiful.

1439
01:51:08,208 --> 01:51:10,375
- Nan, does that have sound?
- Yeah.

1440
01:51:10,625 --> 01:51:11,791
Oh, my dear!

1441
01:51:12,333 --> 01:51:13,750
Let's go, honey.

1442
01:51:18,291 --> 01:51:21,375
My mom's a dance fanatic.

1443
01:51:21,625 --> 01:51:23,333
[♪]

1444
01:51:23,583 --> 01:51:26,666
And she's gonna teach
her old husband how to move it.

1445
01:51:27,541 --> 01:51:29,500
I like to do this...

1446
01:51:30,583 --> 01:51:33,250
- Go, Mom!
- Go for it.

1447
01:51:34,041 --> 01:51:36,458
[♪]

1448
01:51:39,500 --> 01:51:43,208
My father and mother
were not equipped to be parents.

1449
01:51:45,291 --> 01:51:49,000
They had children
because it was expected,

1450
01:51:49,250 --> 01:51:52,791
more than it was about
nurturing other human beings.

1451
01:51:54,875 --> 01:51:56,458
That looks good!

1452
01:52:01,208 --> 01:52:04,500
- Yeah, but hold it up more.
- Is that high enough?

1453
01:52:05,250 --> 01:52:06,833
- Yeah, that's beautiful.
- You can see it?

1454
01:52:07,083 --> 01:52:10,875
Barbara loved Nan very much.
They were very, very close.

1455
01:52:14,333 --> 01:52:20,166
When she died, she had in her pocketbook
a very beautiful, small book of Psalms.

1456
01:52:21,250 --> 01:52:24,000
And she had this
wonderful quotation from...

1457
01:52:24,333 --> 01:52:27,458
- Conrad...
- The Heart of Darkness.

1458
01:52:27,958 --> 01:52:32,958
Joseph Conrad. She was also,
like Nan, a very wide reader.

1459
01:52:34,166 --> 01:52:40,666
And I have the quotation upstairs,
but it had in it something about...

1460
01:52:48,333 --> 01:52:49,500
- Can you stop?
- Yeah...

1461
01:52:49,750 --> 01:52:52,083
- You should get the quotation.
- Stop.

1462
01:52:52,625 --> 01:52:56,791
- Something about regrets.
- Yeah. Infinite regrets.

1463
01:53:03,458 --> 01:53:05,208
Is it on now?

1464
01:53:05,458 --> 01:53:07,833
Quotation from
Heart of Darkness...

1465
01:53:08,083 --> 01:53:10,416
And it was just written
on a piece of paper?

1466
01:53:11,500 --> 01:53:15,708
"It's a droll thing life is,
that mysterious arrangement

1467
01:53:15,958 --> 01:53:19,625
"of merciless logic
for a futile purpose.

1468
01:53:20,458 --> 01:53:25,000
"The most you can hope for
is some knowledge of yourself...

1469
01:53:35,333 --> 01:53:37,416
"that comes too late...

1470
01:53:38,750 --> 01:53:41,833
"A crop of unextinguishable regrets."

1471
01:54:04,541 --> 01:54:11,541
I think this story is an important story,
not just for me, but for society...

1472
01:54:15,166 --> 01:54:18,791
About conformity and denial.

1473
01:54:20,666 --> 01:54:22,875
And also about stigma.

1474
01:54:24,666 --> 01:54:29,375
The wrong things are kept secret
and that destroys people.

1475
01:54:32,666 --> 01:54:37,250
My sister was a victim of all that,
but she knew how to fight back.

1476
01:54:40,208 --> 01:54:45,500
Her rebellion was
the starting point for my own.

1477
01:54:47,666 --> 01:54:49,875
She showed me the way.

1478
01:54:54,333 --> 01:54:56,916
- Let's turn off for a minute.
- Yeah.

1479
01:54:57,625 --> 01:54:59,000
[mic turns off]

1480
01:55:03,041 --> 01:55:06,166
[♪]

1481
01:55:26,291 --> 01:55:27,500
Oh, wow.

1482
01:55:30,666 --> 01:55:31,708
[laughing]

1483
01:55:44,416 --> 01:55:45,375
Wow.

1484
01:55:54,166 --> 01:55:55,958
We did it, baby.

1485
01:56:01,083 --> 01:56:04,458
Four years of work.
Congress didn't do anything.

1486
01:56:04,666 --> 01:56:06,958
Justice Department
hasn't done anything.

1487
01:56:07,208 --> 01:56:13,375
Bankruptcy court, you know,
completely left them better than ever.

1488
01:56:13,625 --> 01:56:18,041
You know, they're completely
vindicated by bankruptcy court.

1489
01:56:18,291 --> 01:56:22,125
And so this is the only place they're
being held accountable, the only place.

1490
01:56:22,291 --> 01:56:23,208
And we did it.

1491
01:56:29,666 --> 01:56:30,666
Wow...

1492
01:56:32,958 --> 01:56:35,083
Oh, my goodness.
What a feeling.

1493
01:56:36,708 --> 01:56:38,666
- Incredible.
- It's amazing.

1494
01:56:40,208 --> 01:56:45,541
- The Sacklers are now "private sources."
- Here, stay there.

1495
01:56:45,791 --> 01:56:48,666
It doesn't say
what private sources.

1496
01:56:51,083 --> 01:56:52,458
Beautiful!

1497
01:56:52,750 --> 01:56:54,958
- Oh, man!
- It's so good!

1498
01:56:55,541 --> 01:56:57,625
It's hard to believe.

1499
01:57:46,833 --> 01:57:49,333
[♪]

1500
01:59:02,458 --> 01:59:05,250
[MUSIC: "Unsuffer Me"
by Lucinda Williams]

1501
01:59:07,125 --> 01:59:10,041
[♪]

1502
01:59:33,625 --> 01:59:36,291
♪ Unlock my love ♪

1503
01:59:37,583 --> 01:59:40,625
♪ And set me free ♪

1504
01:59:41,750 --> 01:59:44,583
♪ Come fill me up ♪
1505
01:59:45,833 --> 01:59:48,583
♪ With ecstasy ♪

1506
01:59:49,916 --> 01:59:54,000
♪ Surround my heartbeat
with your fingertips ♪

1507
01:59:54,208 --> 01:59:57,875
♪ Unbound my feet,
untie my wrists ♪

1508
01:59:58,083 --> 02:00:02,125
♪ Come in to my world
of loneliness ♪

1509
02:00:02,375 --> 02:00:04,000
♪ And wickedness ♪

1510
02:00:04,250 --> 02:00:06,125
♪ And bitterness ♪

1511
02:00:06,416 --> 02:00:09,333
♪ Unlock my love ♪

1512
02:00:39,166 --> 02:00:42,083
♪ Unsuffer me ♪

1513
02:00:43,000 --> 02:00:46,000
♪ Take away the pain ♪

1514
02:00:47,166 --> 02:00:50,375
♪ Unbruise, unbloody ♪

1515
02:00:51,250 --> 02:00:54,250
♪ Wash away the stain ♪

1516
02:00:55,416 --> 02:00:57,416
♪ Anoint my head ♪

1517
02:00:57,541 --> 02:00:59,291
♪ With your sweet kiss ♪

1518
02:00:59,416 --> 02:01:01,458
♪ My joy is dead ♪
1519
02:01:01,583 --> 02:01:03,500
♪ I long for bliss ♪

1520
02:01:03,625 --> 02:01:05,541
♪ I long for knowledge ♪

1521
02:01:05,666 --> 02:01:07,500
♪ Whisper in my ear ♪

1522
02:01:07,708 --> 02:01:11,541
♪ Undo my logic, undo my fear ♪

1523
02:01:11,750 --> 02:01:15,708
♪ Unsuffer me ♪