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Singh,Rajveer

From: Sheth,Ritesh
Sent: 02 July 2021 14:32
To: Singh,Rajveer
Subject: FW: Jubail: Overhead crane vendor offer
Attachments: A) 21-06-142-SM-R0 Air Product_comments.pdf; B) 21_06_142B_SM_R0-OEx_Comments.pdf; C) Deviations and Clarifications-Hazardous
Non-Hazardous Cranes_comments.pdf

Response received from Machinery.

Regards,
Ritesh.

From: Horrell,Clive William <HORRELCW@airproducts.com>


Sent: 02 July 2021 12:55
To: Sheth,Ritesh <SHETHR@airproducts.com>
Cc: Kharpude,Kundan <KHARPUK@airproducts.com>
Subject: RE: Jubail: Overhead crane vendor offer

Hello Ritesh, Kundan,

Civils normally purchase the cranes and there is no involvement by, and no expertise within machinery – so there is very little I or any machinery engineer can help with
here.
- There is nothing new here – AP have purchased cranes before, including for hazardous areas, so it should be routine.
- Suggest you should discuss with Civils GFO

A)Document No: 21-06-142-SM-R0 Air Product_ comments


4 8 of 14 Machinery /Operations to confirm the Duty Class-C based on maintenance/ operation philosophy.
B)Document No: 21_06_142B_SM_R0-OEx_Comments
Machinery/ Site operations,
1 Page 1 of 2 Crane Drawing Piping, Electrical

1
- I don’t know what Duty Class is normally specified by AP – it is possible that it is different for warehouses and for machine houses – but I expect it is the same for all
machine houses in all projects – maintenance philosophy should be similar from project to project, they all have the same machinery.
- Suggest you should discuss with Civils GFO

C)Document No: Deviations and Clarifications-Hazardous Non-Hazardous Cranes_ comments

Deviation
Sr. No. /Clarification list Responsible Discipline
1 Point 1 Machinery / Project

- I do not know the standards applicable.


- Suggest you should discuss with Civils GFO

C)Document No: Deviations and Clarifications-Hazardous Non-Hazardous Cranes_ comments

Deviation
Sr. No. /Clarification list Responsible Discipline
6 Point 6 Machinery / Project

Noise is 70dB(A) @ 1m which is less than 85dB(A) @ 1m – so this is acceptable.

C)Document No: Deviations and Clarifications-Hazardous Non-Hazardous Cranes_ comments

Deviation
Sr. No. /Clarification list Responsible Discipline
7 Point 7 Machinery / Project

Deviation seems to relate to the Duty Class – see my comment to Documents A & B

C)Document No: Deviations and Clarifications-Hazardous Non-Hazardous Cranes_ comments

Deviation
Sr. No. /Clarification list Responsible Discipline
11 Point 11 Machinery / Electrical

2
– I don’t know if there are any AP imposed sub-vendors or approved sub-vendors for mechanical components (gearboxes etc.) – I doubt that AP impose sub-vendors for
such standard equipment as cranes .

C)Document No: Deviations and Clarifications-Hazardous Non-Hazardous Cranes_ comments

Deviation
Sr. No. /Clarification list Responsible Discipline
14 Point 14 Machinery

- I don’t know if brass coated hook and wheels are normally required – suggest you refer to previous projects where Civils have purchased cranes.
- Maybe it is related to non-sparking requirements in hazardous area ? Do the AP specs say something on this subject ?
- There is a discussion currently about Ammonia in the site atmosphere – so brass would quickly degrade in the atmosphere if ammonia is present. I have not seen
brass-coated hooks when on site. I don’t know about the wheels.
- Suggest you should discuss with Civils GFO

Regards
Clive.

From: Sheth,Ritesh <SHETHR@airproducts.com>


Sent: 28 June 2021 11:11
To: Sharma,Keshav <SHARMAK2@airproducts.com>; Bhatt,Nakul <BHATTN@airproducts.com>; Endrejat,Frieder <ENDREJF@airproducts.com>; Horrell,Clive William
<HORRELCW@airproducts.com>; Kharpude,Kundan <KHARPUK@airproducts.com>; Hirajethawala,Vipulkumar <HIRAJEV@airproducts.com>; Borkar,Mahesh
<BORKARM1@airproducts.com>
Cc: Jagdale,Sanjay <JAGDALS@airproducts.com>; Shah,Dhaval <SHAHD3@airproducts.com>; Singh,Rajveer <SINGHR6@airproducts.com>; Evans,Matthew
<EVANSM2@airproducts.com>
Subject: FW: Jubail: Overhead crane vendor offer

Hello All,

We have received crane offer from M/s Kone for SMR Compressor shelter.

CIS has gone through the documents and attached herewith highlighting responsible discipline to provide their comments against each point. Discipline can refer below
prepared matrix for each received vendor document.
All disciplines are requested to go through these documents and provide your relevant response by 30th June’21.

@ Kundan Kharpude, Please inform to Site Operations wherever marked under responsible discipline column and their comments/feedback are required.
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A)Document No: 21-06-142-SM-R0 Air Product_ comments

Sr. Document Page


No. no Comment
1 2 of 14 Procurement to take care for commercial terms & conditions.
Electrical to confirm compliance with Explosive atmosphere Zone -2 as per EN201834-ELE-EL510-00.1.
2 8 of 14
3 8 of 14 Electrical to check this rating.
4 8 of 14 Machinery /Operations to confirm the Duty Class-C based on maintenance/ operation philosophy.
5 8 of 14 Piping/ Machinery group to confirm the Maximum lifting height for the Shelter.
6 8 of 14 Vendor to comply the speeds mentioned in document 4EQ62010A, clause 6.3.12.1.
7 8 of 14 Electrical to confirm the power rating for Hoist and Bridge motors in line with SPEC-ENG-EL057.
8 9 of 14 Project & Site operations to check inclusion & exclusion for scope of supply included & excluded including transportation, lifting /erection at site and tes
9 9 of 14 If any impact due to observation on point 2.2.3 need to take care.
10 9 of 14 Electrical to confirm power supply requirement.

B)Document No: 21_06_142B_SM_R0-OEx_Comments

Sr. No. Document Page no Comment Responsible Discipline


Machinery/ Site operations,
1 Page 1 of 2 Crane Drawing Piping, Electrical
2 Page 2 of 2 Piping

C)Document No: Deviations and Clarifications-Hazardous Non-Hazardous Cranes_ comments

Deviation
Sr. No. /Clarification list Responsible Discipline
1 Point 1 Machinery / Project
2 Point 2 Electrical
3 Point 3 Electrical
4 Point 4 Electrical
5 Point 5 Electrical
4
6 Point 6 Machinery / Project
7 Point 7 Machinery / Project
8 Point 8 MSE
9 Point 9 Project
10 Point 10 Project
11 Point 11 Machinery / Electrical
12 Point 12 -
13 Point 13 Electrical
14 Point 14 Machinery
15 Point 15 Electrical/ Site operations

Regards,
Ritesh.
From: Gajjam,Amar <GAJJAMA@airproducts.com>
Sent: 18 June 2021 20:44
To: Sheth,Ritesh <SHETHR@airproducts.com>
Cc: Singh,Rajveer <SINGHR6@airproducts.com>; Jagdale,Sanjay <JAGDALS@airproducts.com>; Lolap,Sachin <LOLAPS@airproducts.com>; Adhalge,Kapil
<ADHALGK@airproducts.com>
Subject: Jubail: Overhead crane vendor offer

Hello Ritesh,

For overhead crane RFQ, we have received a vendor offer from Kone crane. The offer documents are attached.
With respect to SMR Crane requirement, kindly review the offer documents and share your comments. Please ignore the ASU crane data sheet.
The RFQ document is also attached for ready reference.

Thank you,
Amar S. Gajjam

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