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Stealing Bait From Women Fishing For Compliments

November 26, 2012 by CH
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Fishing for compliments is mostly a woman thing. ON AVERAGE, of course, ON
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AVERAGE. Men rarely engage in the activity; even very insecure men are loathe to
food fight and do not
fish for compliments. It’s such a transparently unmanly endeavor that the
necessarily represent the
noodliest manboobs wince at the thought of begging like a chick for self-esteem
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boosts.
proprietors or contributors.
The kinds of women who make it obvious that they are fishing for compliments
generally fall in three main camps:
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1. Hot babes who live and die by continual positive feedback on either their photojournal website.
beauty (from aloof men they like) or their personality/smarts (from women and
men who only recognize them for their beauty.)
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2. Aging beauties who need reassurances in the face of their impending
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3. Women in relationships who are feeling anxiety that their men are losing Submissions
interest in them. Beta Of The Year
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There are plenty of other types, but these three predominate. A once-hot woman
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nearing 35, in an unmarried relationship with an alpha male with options who
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checks out other women all the time, is the equivalent of fishing for sharks in a
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backyard pool with chunks of seal flesh as bait. She is a fisher of flattery.
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Knowing this, you can capitalize on this natural womanly compulsion for your own The Sixteen Commandments
benefit. (You can also make yourself less attractive.) Of Poon
The beta male spies a woman fishing for a compliment, and he frantically chomps
down, happily letting himself be reeled into the boat. She catches him, sees what
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a runty specimen he is, and uses him as bait to catch bigger fish. The beta male
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feels the hook dig deep into his side and wonders why he is suffering such
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torment for giving the fisher of flattery what she wanted.
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The alpha male spies a woman fishing for flattery, and he circles the bait, taking … 4 hours ago
small nibbles from it without ever biting down on the hook. She tries to reel him
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in, but he is elusive. She now wants this fish so badly she dumps the whole
agrees. MT:
bucket of beta fish chum in the water hoping to lure him closer to the boat where
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she can net him. But he is slippery, and toys with her by gleefully breaching the
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water just out of her reach.
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You, the reader, would like to know how to nibble at a woman fishing for
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compliments that does not result in your demise or her abandoning the water to
people wonder why American
fish another day. There is no one way to successfully dance with a woman seeking
women are so unhappy. These
approval via utilization of a plump, poisoned enticement, but there are easily-
are their men:
remembered short cuts. One which has worked for me over the years is a simple boston.com/lifestyle/rela…
one-word response: 4 hours ago
“Sure.” "I'm tired of the game" Game.

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As in:
5 hours ago
Woman Being Womanly: “Don’t you think this skirt is a cute look on me?”
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Mischievous Fishie: “Sure.” http://t.co/KWzgpFFCuj
5 hours ago
Or:
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Woman Being Womanly: “I bet I could make you forget about her.”
@heartiste Men using smiley
Mischievous Fishie: “Sure.” in dating-site message
decrease response rate by
Or:
66%.
Womanly Being Womanly: “I’m the best you’ll ever get.” newsfeed.time.com/2014/01/0
Mischievous Fishie: “Sure.” 5 hours ago
The key here is the tone of your voice; neither sarcastic nor earnest. You want
that “sure” to sound closer to an ambiguously sincere reflection bordering on a R C
taunt, slightly higher pitched, and girded with a hint of joviality. Laguna Beach Fogey on
You want her wondering what it is you’re thinking. She has dropped bait, and The Seductive Value Of
she’s not quite sure you’re on the hook. But neither is she sure you’ve raced away Emotion…
from her hook. Arbiter on The Seductive

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This works because women love two characteristics about men: unpredictability
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and ambiguity. The woman who can’t readily predict or decipher your reaction, or
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the meaning of your words, is the woman who will make her desire more
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predictable and less ambiguous to you. She does not want your hostility or your
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jimmy on November 26, 2012 at 2:37 pm Baby Got Swayback
The Game Of Rapidly Induced
‘Maybe’ works quite well also
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Revo Luzione on November 26, 2012 at 4:27 pm Of Poon
The Seductive Value Of
“Maybe” is one of my favorites, too. “Sure” has also been a reflexive
Emotional Range
response. “Perhaps” also works.
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All have a lot more punch when delivered with a saucy smirk. Fishing For Compliments
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Days of Broken Arrows on November 26, 2012 at 5:04 pm
No, “Really” is the ultimate response because if you inflect it right C

it’s both sarcastic and serious. When they go into a tizzy and Select Category
question you, you can always say “I just said ‘really,'” which
sends even more mixed messages.
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Revo Luzione on November 26, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Stuff White People Like
This is true, but “really” has been co-opted extensively by the The Daily Sarge
SWPL hipster phase, and it’s often used in an incredibly annoying Things My Boyfriend Says
way. xkcd
TB at BlueCollarWorkman on November 27, 2012 at 8:58 am G

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hahaha, my wife could go crazy if I said “sure” or “perhaps” or
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“maybe”! i’m gonna try this out though cuz so far when she fishes
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i don’t say anything and then an argument starts.
Krauser PUA
Rational Male
Roosh V
Tenmagnet
Anonymous on November 26, 2012 at 6:06 pm
The G Manifesto
I rely on the ever-ambiguous “mm.” The Rookie
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walawala on November 26, 2012 at 11:02 pm
my new one is: S

Oh. with punctuation. S
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cares too much on November 26, 2012 at 2:49 pm Arts & Letters Daily
Deconstructing Leftism
How do you stay out of your head when you’re with a group of people at
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a bar or with your gf.
Evo and Proud
Its burning me out mentally. doesn’t happen all the time, but when it does, and i Gene Expression
stay in my head, and not live in the moment, I stutter, fidget, while conciously Hail To You
knowing what I’m doing and belittiling myself for it. its distressing when your gf is hbd chick
a social butterfly who laughs with most other alpha males, though rarely with you Human Biological Diversity
– because when im in my head, I’m a bore with little game and zero humour. Information Processing
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immoralgables on November 26, 2012 at 3:14 pm OneSTDV
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I’m not sure if I’m qualified to give you advice on it but imagine if you
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went out all the time and were put in far more intimidating situations
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where YOU were the social butterfly. (ie going to a packed dubstep
Steve Sailer
concert with your crew and actually having a good time
The Anti-Gnostic
Going out to the bar with your gf and her crew would seem like second nature The Kakistocracy
to you. Hell, I bet you wouldn’t even sweat it. The Red Pill Review
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Revo Luzione on November 26, 2012 at 4:31 pm Vox Popoli
West Hunter
“How do you stay out of your head when you’re with a group of
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people at a bar or with your gf (sic) ?”
Simple: feel. Feel your body. Feel your gut. Use your breath–long, deep, slow
breaths that puff out your chest. Feel your physical power. Feel the strength in
T H
your posture, in your legs, back, arms, abs, and chest. Move with purpose.
M H
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Feel the tension in your face. Use your breath to relax your face. Make sure
Dusk in Autumn
you’re not scrunching up your face, and that your facial expression is one of
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implacable masculine power, of total and complete amused mastery. The
Feminine Beauty
TL;DR here is: focus on the breath.
Gucci Little Piggy
Long before I ever learned game, my younger brother told me something that Hawaiian Libertarian
always gave me massive confidence, or the ability to bluff it: “Play as if you’re Hyperbole and a Half
holding all aces.” In Mala Fide
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Overcoming Bias
passingby on November 26, 2012 at 7:04 pm The Fourth Checkraise
The Rawness
Sounds like you don’t like hanging out in those venues. So stop
Udolpho
hanging out in those venues. Boredom causes us to retreat into such
things. When you are enjoying yourself, you don’t get anxious; you
are too busy enjoying yourself.
If you find yourself stuck there, and not enjoying yourself, leave.
anonymous does not forgive on November 27, 2012 at 12:06 pm
And when the only venues you DO enjoy are such target rich
environments as comic book shops, wargame conventions, and
the midnight showing of The Hobbit, what then?
cares too much on November 27, 2012 at 12:43 pm
I’m a bodybuilfer with a 9 gf. Sometimes I run into social anixety,

and am not the most extroverted when in group situation at
clubs.
lol the hell is a wargame convention

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immoralgables on November 26, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Word.
Last week I went over to the apartment of this girl I’m seeing and she
cooked me dinner. She fretted over the desert and whether the main meal was
hot enough or not. Basically it was endless compliment fishing on her part and
thanks to The Chateau I was able to realize this and avoid supplicating.
I used this line on her when she asked me whether I liked it or not.
“A for effort, A- for execution”
I said it with a smirk and then I changed the subject. Truth be told the food was
pretty decent but I was annoyed at how much she yearned for a compliment while
I was trying to eat. Sure I could have done a line similar to the (“Do I look fat in
this dress?” “No, you look HUUGGE”) by fake spitting up my food and saying I
have been poisoned but I was lazy and wanted to try this out. She was seeking
my approval on the food the rest of the night and gushed when I eventually told
her that it was good.
I need to try out the line more.
*Do I look good in this dress?*

“A for effort” (and then maybe say “A- for execution” because a strand of hair was
standing up in the back of her head. Or pick out the smallest, trivial detail to bust
her on).
retrophoebia on November 26, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Inadvertent gem from ImmoralGables’ post: I could see myself

saying “Do I look good in this dress?” in response to compliment-
fishing.
Points earned:
*Non-sequitur
*Non-supplicating
*Script-flipping
*Can be funny/ironic/playful/teasing
Risk: if delivery’s wrong, it could come across as a bit too prickish.
No, I don’t actually wear dresses.
Anon on November 26, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Are you high?
retrophoebia on November 26, 2012 at 4:45 pm
yes.
yeahokcool on November 27, 2012 at 10:13 am
I like it. I will try this.
Liz on November 26, 2012 at 8:41 pm
She sounds like a neurotic person with no self respect. Doesn’t that
disgust you after a while?
Hugh G. Rection on November 27, 2012 at 9:00 am
A man gets used to that. The vagina and other openings

compensate to a certain degree.
onan on November 26, 2012 at 2:55 pm
needy men fish for compliments by giving them away
PetiteOlive on November 27, 2012 at 3:52 am
once had a beta ex that fished for compliments. He would make

statements like “babe, do you think I have a small dick?”and I was
always like “um…no, its big babe”…..thing is, it was not small and he
knew this but wanted my compliment!….so bizarre), also when dressing up to
go out, HE would be the one asking me things like “babe, is this sweater
okay?” “does this jeans look good?” *shudders* we were together for
approximately 3.5 years late teens-early twenties….maybe it was just
immaturity but I knew from those moments that we could never have any
semblance of a happily ever after. I stayed with him because he had other
great* LTR bf traits but yes, men do fish for compliments and yes, it is one of
the most beta feminized shit a man can do.
the fauvist on November 27, 2012 at 3:43 pm
+1
Dude on November 26, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Women want what they can’t have, and don’t want what they can have.
If you give her too much of your approval, she won’t want it (you)
anymore.
If you don’t give her enough of your approval, she’ll want it (you) more.
Ari on November 26, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Rather than “sure” I prefer “Yep.”
It’s got a nice pop to it and it’s much easier to get the tone right.
Transmillenium on November 26, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Sure= “Claro”
driveallnight on November 26, 2012 at 6:07 pm
One of my faves, deployed monotone.
Added bonus, it’s the same in both Spanish and Tagalog. Use to elicit
qualification from English-only liberals: “Wait, you (lived/schooled) in
(LA/SF/NY) and you don’t know that’s (Spanish/Tag)?”
Nupnupnup on December 4, 2012 at 1:47 pm
It’s really Spanish. Tagalog just adopted it.
John Galt on November 26, 2012 at 3:21 pm
Try, “umm . . . ok,” if you feel like you are using the “sure” too often.
When you repeat a simple tool too often they think that you are no longer
listening. Varying it keeps them unsure whether you are listening, thus
ambiguity.
I personally like two “sure”‘s and then a “maybe.”
stevejabba on November 26, 2012 at 3:43 pm
You say this but if you feel sorry for the girls who do this, why not just
leave them to it? Why try and exploit?
I’m not saying be a white knight and rescue them but why not try and add to the
store of human happiness?
I spend a lot of my time feeling really sorry for girls and the bind they’re in and
the shit they have to deal with..
immoralgables on November 26, 2012 at 4:09 pm
I was going to bring out the pitchforks when you seemed to white-
knighting it but I get what you mean Steve, I actually do.
But understand that the readership here isn’t coming from a place of success
with women. A lot of them/us were rejected, cheated on, fucked over and
downright humiliated for exhibiting the beta tendencies we try to overcome.
It’s no wonder that when a solution is found, we tend to go far to the extreme
because the negatives hangups of the past polarize us.
But I’ve been thinking about what you said lately and yea. I do feel bad for my
older sis who got all this attention in high school and college. She had a flock
of orbiters. Every family outing or reunion we went to she would get all this
attention and praise. Now at the tail-end of her 20s and out of shape her
prospects are dim and I honestly feel bad for her.
It’s one thing to laugh at women hitting the wall and to celebrate their
diminished dating options. I get that. It’s vindication for a lot of us. But when
that’s your sister feeling down on herself; or if it’s your 50+ Mom not being
able to find another man to keep her company because your father left her
and traded up for something younger/hotter…well I put away the confetti.
You’re probably going to get some vitriol for your comment but I feel what
you’re saying and have toned down the vindictiveness after seeing the
casualties first hand.
By “feeling sorry” for women, you lose your power. Look at that last
paragraph–it describes the loss of agency of someone who has pity on
another.
Women have very rich experiences, and a tremendous amount of power.

Modern white western women are one of the most protected, privileged
groups of humans to ever walk the earth.
You, sir, have not fully digested the Red Pill. You need a higher dose. Game
may not cut it for you, you need to understand the modern court system,
divorce theft, et al.
No. Wrong.
I don’t “lose” any power at all. Infact I don;t even acknowledge

this. What power?
A 37 year old man like me thinking about loss of power with a 22 year old
girl? Give me a fucking break mate
I have been planning a post on this for a week or so, since meeting with
Roosh (alongside Krauser) a couple of weeks ago.
It boils down to this:
You get out what you put in. You put this gamey stuff out there, you get
shit in return. You put out honesty, you might get resentment in return but
you’ll get respect too.
You feel from the bottom of your heart that you have a duty to look after a
woman, whilst at the same time not taking any shit whatsoever, and
weeding out the cunts…You get adulation.
I never ever have to think about the shit tests, frame control games, or
any of that crap.
Repeat : You get out what you put in,
You havent heard much from me. You will, In a few months I will be
producing video evidence of real game. I can back up everything I say.
This will be my last hurrah before I retire from shagging women in great
b h ff h d b h
numbers with great efficiency. But this needs to be out there.
Then it might be a bit clearer what I’m talking about.
Matthew King (King A) on November 26, 2012 at 6:33 pm
Yeah. Clear as a new-age crystal, substituting sentimentality for

wisdom.
Now the flesh has been stripped from the roast, and we come to the rancid
middle of the PUA’s half-cooked philosophy for life. When the pragmatic
utility of a way of thinking runs out, mystical claptrap rushes in. “You get
out what you put in.” Please STFU.
It is important to scrutinize this gradual retirement of first- and second-

generation PUA’s, like Roosh, Krauser, Tucker Max, CH, and perhaps this
guy, Jabba the Steve. That’s how we assess the overall value of what they
spout, the meaning behind what animated their antisocial behavior, a
behavior they are imperceptibly abandoning.
Why is this important? Because the middle-age is a man’s prime, where he

has either set himself up to be a producer or a parasite. The fake-
sophisticated bromides peddled around these parts — designed to fool
young men and entice betas — will not suffice for their own good fortunes,
much less help establish projects of lasting significance. Those projects are
necessary to reclaim the culture while the poonchaser-emerita tell war
stories and yip toothlessly from their retirement condo’s poolside.
“It boils down to this,” proclaims stevejabba! I hope you’re still listening,
gents, because the meaning of life boils down to a motivational poster.
This brand of saccharine superficiality brought feminism to power and
keeps it there. Not that any one-trick sexual scavenger cares about the
general inversion of nature we all must endure for their chickenhearted
looting: without misrule of the delusional termagants, the shadow pussy
market wouldn’t have been so easy for them to exploit and delude them
into grandeur. While they are experts in self-congratulation, they have
nothing to show for their manhood beyond memories fading into the
senescence. All the work of reconstruction has been left to their betters,
and still they think they have some kind of authoritative perspective on life
and the culture?
We are just beginning to put together a new pragmatism, so kindly stow

your Hallmark Card/stoned-freshman dormitory insights into the human
condition. You have nothing to offer us.
You haven’t heard much from me. You will, In a few months I
will be producing video evidence of real game. I can back up
everything I say. This will be my last hurrah before I retire
from shagging women in great numbers with great efficiency.
But this needs to be out there.
Then it might be a bit clearer what I’m talking about.
No, it is quite clear, because big-talking charlatans are not an unfamiliar

type around here. Spare us the tedium, and spare yourself the indignity.
The last thing men need is some goatish braggart’s valedictory speech.
The geezers never understand when culture has passed them by. We are
on to version 2.0. Save your tales for the leathery South Florida waitresses
poolside.
Matt
FuriousFerret on November 27, 2012 at 12:38 am
This guy is the same guy that was running game on that south
american hottie in CH post:
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/08/31/street-kiss-close-
analysis/
Game recognized sir.
I will hear out what he has to say even if I don’t agree with all of it.
Liz on November 27, 2012 at 6:12 am
“Mate”? So you have an Australian accent too? And you look like
Mate ? So…you have an Australian accent too? And you look like
that. Your success has nothing to do with the games you play
during the pickup ritual. A video of such experiences really
wouldn’t help anyone else out.
McGinnis on November 27, 2012 at 8:10 am
From the sound of it I’m guessing you’re getting married or in a

serious relationship with ‘the one’.
I’ve seen many guys like you – you think you’ve found the perfect woman
and you start sounding like Bill Bennett. I get it, you’re 32 and you’ve
banged a few girls. Obviously everyone in the game community is a
clueless idiot, you have all the answers. Most importantly, your sweety
baby is NOT LIKE THAT lol.
Give it a few years of ‘looking after a woman’ and let me know how it
goes, mate.
I guarantee you’ve never seen a guy like me.

I don’t have an adam’s apple, and my name is Liz (which is short
for Elizabeth).
He wasn’t talking to you, sugartits. Follow the comment tree. It’s

easy, put your finger on the straight line and follow it up, up, up.
Yeah, King…the straight line was actually directly under mine. You
can see why I was confused. Having no Y chromosome (gasp! a
word with more than two syllables), and all that. It strangely
looks as though it were addressed to lil’ ol’ me.
Are you really “lil”? Come on now, most American girls these days
can stand to lose a couple.
P.S. We have now reached the furthest branch of the comment tree. No
more line indentations! I hope this does not further confuse. Just when
she got the hang of it…
King…it has already been confusing as I’ve been hitting the reply
button in response to myself…damn…now you’re telling me there
is more stuff to learn?
I confess, I am not “lil”. I ride a lil rascal scooter and try to run over small
children at theme parks then (assuming I miss that first time) hit them
with my oxygen tank when I pass. My scooter has a horn, so fuck them if
they can’t hear me a comin….
You don’t get out what you put in, you get out what you can,
everything else is just hot air. Getting pussy has about jack shit to
do with what you feel at the bottom of your heart…if you feel
whatever feeling you’re talking about and do well for yourself good for
you, if not and you still do well good for you, it’s irrelevant.
But yeah, power is at play here, there’s no denying that.
omen on November 27, 2012 at 2:53 pm
This.
All that happens when chicks hit the wall is they joint the ranks of
the rest of us who have had to earn our power. I never feel bad for
women, they never earned that bullshit social value in the first place.
I have followed the (proverbial) line and apparently this Aussie

guy named Steve is actually a chick who has hit the wall! Who
knew?
I spend a lot of my time feeling really sorry for girls and the bind
they’re in and the shit they have to deal with..
So you mean like the free dinners, the endless compliments men don’t get,
the fawning over them, the free entrances into clubs when we all have to pay,
the bosses giving them perks because they have breasts, all of that?
You should spend some time in a school system today where being male is a
diagnosable condition and see how sorry you feel for girls.
What do you mean school system? Are you at college? I’m not.
Though of course i’ve been through that.
To be fair i’m coming from the perspective of a 37 year old man that’s
seen it all. Yes I don’t mind saying that.
It’s better to orient yourself on the right path asap. Feeling bitter about
women and the supposed “advantages” they have is a road to failure.
These “techniques” that you may cherish are actually holding you back
from the real value, the real success that you might actually get if you
opened your eyes and instead loved women for what they are.
I’m not advertising. I just know I am right.
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At the same time : never take any shit. You have to know the difference, I
give you that, but there is ample written stuff about this.
You will NEVER win by hating on women and the advantages they have.
Instead sidestep all the shit that modern man is suppoesd so swallow (that
Chateau so elequently talks about that I cannot hope to replicate), whilst
appreciating beatiful women for what they are.
I write this now because you have me on a roll but I was the most ruthless
of them all, 5 , 6, 7 women a week, on trains, in daytime, in restuarants,
everywhere… Shagging all over the place
Eventually you reach a point where you see it for what it really is and what
power and responsibility we have as men.
If you look into a girls eyes who you care about, if she’s crying becuase
you let her down…Don’t you see where I am coming from?
Bryan on November 28, 2012 at 12:32 am
I dont feel bitter about the advantages women have. That’s

always been fair game to me. However, I refuse to feel sorry for
the shit women had to put up with in the past and in the present.
Men have always had it bad in the past and present as well. Everyone has
been fucked over. Us men simply dont whine about it as much, nor do
women have other women telling them to feel sorry for the shit men have
to put up with. But, us men always have other men encouraging us to feel
sorry for women as if only women have suffered throughout history up to
the present.
Glengarry on November 28, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Oh fuck off you fatheaded fool.

Afonso Henriques on November 30, 2012 at 7:58 am
Fuck!!!
How I want to kick the hell out of you.
itsme on November 26, 2012 at 5:18 pm
women are only truly happy when they’re a bit unhappy.
Women are most comfortable in the “defensive crouch,” as the

host has called it.
Feeling sorry has nothing to do with it. You don’t improve her, much
less allay her anxieties for long, if you are not a reliable pillar of the
truth. Pity is a condescending approach to any relationship.
It is about command and control. Who’s the fisher here? Who’s the prey?
The only way to win her little shit-games is never to play. You don’t make a
brilliant move to capture the queen with your knight, you wipe the
chessboard. You don’t untie the Gordian knot, you slash it open.
There is too much anxious overthinking involved in the appropriateness and

tone of “sure” or “yep” (instead of “yeah”? or maybe a nod would be better??
how bout an “uh-huh”???). If her question is reactive to your frame, if it is a
part of your established flow — in other words, if you feel like it — then
answer her question. Is she the fisherwoman (making you the minnow), or
are you the shark who hops over the deck and devours her? Which do you
think brings the tingle?
When you send the signal that you won’t play her games, she understands
that you are at a level above her here-beta-beta baits. Silly tricks will not avail
her. Eventually she will stop the fishing expedition, pack up her tackle, and
carry on. That’s when true compliments, sparingly offered, take on the effect
of divine judgment. Skittles anyone?
If you can’t slide into a non-sequitur (smash the board), then deadpan teasing
is the best. “Don’t you think this skirt is a cute look on me?” Actually it
reminds me of this girl in college/at work/I dumped… Deadpan enough to keep
her wondering what your level of sincerity is, until she gains the familiarity to
interpret your uncompromising frame for what it is, save her cat-and-mouse
shit for lesser men, and extract the precious rare nuggets of true compliment
for herself, all the more cherished the harder she must work for them.
Matt
yeahokcool on November 27, 2012 at 10:22 am
I mostly agree with you, but this approach will be a lot less
effective for those dudes just getting their feet wet. What you’re
describing is a higher level of operation – a level that many men have to

work toward/aspire to rather than start at.
Isn’t “a higher level of operation,” or in fact the highest level of

operation what we should all be striving for, if not in the short
term, then the long?
This is my major disconnect with this community’s ethos. It seems

complacent, reiterating game basics 101 in more sophisticated ways but
not terribly smart about expanding its effectiveness into higher purposes
and farther places.
The disagreement is the product of our different understanding about the

The disagreement is the product of our different understanding about the
difficulty of game. Is it hard to master or easy? I contend it is easy, much
easier than advertised, but this is denied by its purveyors (especially its
commercial purveyors) because 1) it is so powerful that it seems like it
should be harder to master, and 2) if it were as easy as women applying
makeup, then what do we need the seminar hucksters for?
Beyond a boot-camp-like introduction and the inculcation of a few habits

— which are driven by the primal need for pussy in every event — we
don’t need a constant overanalyzing/cheerleading squad on how to flirt.
You get your “feet wet,” and instinct drives you from there. Beyond that,
the PUA gathering-places are like the 19th hole, where you tell tales and
shoot the shit and one-up the last guy.
Matt
Matt on November 27, 2012 at 3:27 pm
I used to feel sympathy for women about their situation. That lasted
until I realized two things:
1. Very few of them care about the bind I’m in. In fact, they’ll use it to their
advantage if I let them.
2. Most of them have put themselves into the situation they’re in.
I have ZERO sympathy for people that create their own problems, then whine
incessantly about being unable to fix them. For example, if a person is in debt
through no fault of their own (ie. death of a spouse, company closure, etc.)
and winds up on welfare, then I have sympathy and will help them. If they
wind up in debt because they lived further than their means while also buying
the new iPhone, they get no sympathy or help from me. So, I feel sympathy
for widows, none for single mothers.
I do my utmost to not add to the pile of human misery, but I’m not going to
help those that refuse to help themselves while also continually adding to their
problems.
Greg Eliot on November 28, 2012 at 12:37 am
I spend a lot of my time feeling really sorry for girls and the bind
they’re in and the shit they have to deal with..
You mean you had the unmitigated temerity… to feel sorry… for a white
woman?
Grit on November 26, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Pitying a woman after the wall is like pitying a bankrupt millionaire. You
empathize with how happy they once were, but you also are inclined to
welcome them to the real world.
AW on November 26, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Well stated amigo. I had a good friend growing up who’s whole family
was rich from a family member marrying into money. This guy never
worried about finances once in his entire life. Then years later, a
messy divorce went down (surprise!) and the fountain dried up. He had to get
a real job and his days of leisure were forever no more. I had sympathy for his
predicament as he was a friend, but at the same time I was thinking “welcome
to where the rest of us live”.
Anyone notice a lot of 30+ chicks are way more down to earth and “real”.
Yeah maybe some of it is due to acquired maturity, but I think it’s mostly the
humility bomb which detonates upon impact with The Wall.
Yo Grit, where is that photo from, looks familiar…
Wolfie65 on November 27, 2012 at 3:47 pm
The 30+’s in my area must be bomb-proof, then.

They’re about as ‘down to Earth & real’ as R2D2 sucking off a
They’re about as ‘down to Earth & real’ as R2D2 sucking off a
Unicorn.
With sprinkles.
Exactly. I get that it sucks for them but hey, them’s the breaks, they
milked the system when they were younger and now they have to
play the piper.
Obstinance Works on November 27, 2012 at 4:55 pm
She should have cashed in her chips.
Ashen on November 26, 2012 at 5:14 pm
This is OT but am I wrong for doing this?
I have a buddy with a total twat of a gf. He’s always complaining how she
never puts out. She’s a hard 5-6 little princess. Her biggest pet peeve is anything
scatological. When she comes over, ( i live with my buddy), I be sure to pinch a
nice loaf in the hall bathroom and leave the door open when I’m done. I know this
drives her up the wall cuz I heard them fighting about it. Well, today I finally had
enough of this twat, so I took a nice, big, post-thanksgiving shit and took a pic of
it with my buddy’s iPhone and texted it to some friends and “accidentally”
included her in the texted group. My Plan is to fuck with her so hard she up and
quits. I can’t stop laughing about it.
Not sure you’ll elicit the desired response, but I like your style.
Greg Eliot on November 26, 2012 at 6:48 pm
Getting a buddy and his gf to fight over your bowel movement?
What’s not to like?
aspic on November 29, 2012 at 2:20 am
I don’t know Greg, the situation could get sticky.
Ah! Now HERE’S a man-sized challenge for YaReally, worthy of his

steel!
LLOOOZOZOZOZLZLLZLZOOZOZOZOZLLLLL
passingby on November 26, 2012 at 6:56 pm
I used to brag loudly about my dumps, just to shock and offend my

roommates’ girlfriends when they were over. I would come out and
deliver “The Morning Dump Report”, where I would describe
consistency, amount, and delivery time of the morning dump. Good times.
Next time she is present, do your business. Then come out of the bathroom,
jerk your thumb over your shoulder at the bathroom, and announce that you
barely made it out. Dab at your forehead, and say, “My god, sweat! That thing
nearly broke me. I am a strong man, but sweet Jesus, I fear birthing uneasy
loads like that one. Got any milk? I need something to calm quivering bowels.”
“It wasn’t a dump, it was really more like a mugging. That

p, y gg g
thunderbucket of yours in there? Never gonna be the same.”
the audacious amateur blogger on November 27, 2012 at 7:02 am
During a prolonged fight, my guy went to the bathroom… I

contined quacking like a chicken, making my arguments over
whatever we were fighting about and he goes “gd, can’t a guy
just take a dump in peace?”.
At this point, I was severely frustrated AND well, constipated. It had been
like a week (perhaps this was behind all the quacking..). I responded “no!
If I don’t get to shit, neither do you!”.
Yea, we were all kinds of messed up. Broke the tension though as we both
realized the ridiculousness our bickering had come down to.
drink more cum, it’s a natural laxative.
the audacious amateur blogger on November 28, 2012 at 7:55 pm
lol. I will keep that in mind. Hear its a good source of protein too,
prevents gestational diabetes AND is even good for depression.
You guys should sell this shit!
Now everyone listen closely to Ashen. That is how a man shit tests.
I love hilarious scat stories. Every true man does, just as every true
woman doesn’t.
I initially misread your “My Plan is to fuck with her so hard she up and quits”
as “My Plan is to fuck her so hard…” Either way. Although make sure you get
clearance from your beta buddy. Or at least give clear notice.
Matt
Jim on November 26, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Quote Revo: ”Women have very rich experiences, and a tremendous

amount of power. Modern white western women are one of the most
protected, privileged groups of humans to ever walk the earth.”
Fixed
JJ_Cardone on November 26, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Replace “Sure” with “Ok” with the same ambiguous inflection.
Ovid on November 26, 2012 at 6:33 pm
In other “news,” chicks dig, err…. drug trafficking gunmen:
“Mexican media say the brunette, who participated in the Miss Oriental
Tourism pageant in China in May, was travelling with her boyfriend, a suspected
hitman, when the shootout erupted.”
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/world/mexican-beauty-queen-killed-in-
shootout-involving-hitman-boyfriend-20121127-2a4bj.html
Bryan on November 26, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Sometimes the risk of getting those bad boy genes backfire on them…
‘Wh M id l it d
‘Where Mexeecan maidens play guitar and seeng
Of Beelee the keed, their boy bandit keeng’
(Apologies to Mr. Marty Robbins)
This type of stuff is everyday commonplace around here.
They’re still Mexican, maidens…well, not after 13 they ain’t.
Guitars have been replaced by mp3 playahs and I’m not sure I’d call Rap
‘singing’.
Billy the Kid is out, way too White, ese, but they do LOVE LOVE LOVE their boy
bandit kings. Especially the ones with the shaved heads, tats all over
(including his name in backwards ‘gothic’ script across his abs), muffdiver
goatees and motorcycles.
Game?
He don’t need no steenkeeng game, bro!
+1 on the Sierra Madre treasure
Hyperborean on November 27, 2012 at 7:42 pm
This article, which the previous one links to is even better. LMFAO
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?
c_id=2&objectid=10850456
Apparently the Chinese are a little quick to swallow compliments themselves.
passingby on November 26, 2012 at 6:48 pm
There is another ploy, used in more formal setting such as work. Yes,
those middle-aged manager gals will sometimes seek some beauty
affirmation from (younger) men at work. Remember that dealing with
gals occurs everywhere, not just in traditional settings.
So when facing such a moment, do *not* start retreating into simpering

compliance, merely because she may be an exec, teacher, prof, whatever. Instead,
pause a moment, smile (almost smirk, but not quite) without teeth showing, and
say, “Yes, you look great in that. Of course.”
Then immediately, and without pause, completely change the topic to something
in your frame or mindset and filibuster for minute or two. End with a question, so
she must now deal with the new topic rather than returning to the old one.
The gal is aware that you perfunctorialy observed the social convention of paying
her the compliment, but she is also aware that it was not earned, and probably
not heartfelt. Niceties observed, but message delivered: I am not here to give you
orbiter supplication.
When I was stuck in corporate drone life, I used that on female Fortune 500 VPs
who asked me about their pantsuits. Gals like men who maintain mental posture;
they see strength, and they appreciate it.
“When I was stuck in corporate drone life, I used that on female

Fortune 500 VPs who asked me about their pantsuits.”
You mean take it to a place like this:
“Gawd, my Aunt Ida used to complain about having to wear pantsuits in the
’70s. Hey, have you heard that new oldies soul station?”
Sidestep!!
Right. All about frame.
Her shit test is a mallet hammering a bone joint. Don’t flinch. It is an

RPG to a building’s architectural keystone. Don’t crumble, don’t crouch, don’t
cower, don’t cave.
Pantsuits? “You’re too feminine to pull it off, no matter how hard you keep
a tsu ts ou e too e e to pu to , o atte o a d you eep
trying.” “I’ve seen your legs and you shouldn’t hide them. They’re your
finishing move in the boardroom.” Or if your rapport is righteously in-place:
“Transvestite. Do you wear your daddy’s shirts to bed too?”
Matt
Rodney Dangerfield game… “Heh, you buy that dress, they throw in a
free bowl of soup. Oh, but on YOU it looks good.” (obvious eye-roll)
taterearl on November 26, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Hey baby, you must have been something before electricity!
whorefinder on November 26, 2012 at 8:32 pm
“Wanna make fourteen dollars the hard way?”
“We’re all gonna get laid!”
Shame he didn’t make more movies. Outright stole Caddyshack from the
lead, still-in-his-prime Chevy Chase, and Bill fuckin’ Murray. That,
motherfuckers, is talent.
“YOOOOUUUU!!! You’re no gentleman!”
“I ain’t no doorknob, neither.”
See, my philosophy for years has been to train them NOT to ask that. I
began telling any girl I was fucking for more than one night that if she
ever asked me a question about how she was dressed or if was cute, I’d
tell her she was fat.
A warning.
Of course, being women, they were too stupid and shit-testy to understand the
point. So I actually followed through on this:
“Do you like this dress?”

“You’re fat.”
“C’mon, help me out.Please.”
“You’re super fat.”
“Stop it! Be nice to me.”
“You look like Roseanne Barr who ate Oprah Winfrey.”
(Cue hot, rutty sex later that night, to fight their growing insecurity).
Like a dog, the negative training worked wonders, but took a lot at first, and the
occasional reinforcement later if she “forgot”;
“Do you think I’m pretty?”

“Don’t you remember the rule?”
“Please. I’m really hurt.”

“Give me a blowjob and I’ll tell you if you gained weight.”
Worked like a charm.
Jason on November 26, 2012 at 8:22 pm
What’s the line you always say before you bludgeon a woman to
death, whorefinder?
“Hi, my name is Sweetheart. I sucked Michael Clarke Duncan’s

cock. Now, on to Obama!”
or
“Does this smell like chloroform to you?”
She ‘s old enough to remember who Roseanne Barr is?

Curious….
Good one, I like it.
Roseanne’ still pops up in pop culture. See “Roseanne’s Nuts” and

her left-wing activism (ran for president this year).
taterearl on November 26, 2012 at 9:09 pm
Watch old Married with Children episodes…any shit test a Peg throws
your way respond like Al Bundy.
my philosophy for years has been to train them NOT to ask

that
Best point of all.
But when they do ask, it’s a golden opportunity for negative feedback,
something that no worthy woman is truly used to, surrounded as she is by
unearned and unsolicited sycophancy. Under all the fluffy feckless fawning,
she craves the spanking all the same. Is this news to anyone?
When high-value girls are inundated by positive feedback, even they intuit
that something is off. So they’ll create their own criticism! Sometimes when a
thin girl says “Omigod I’m sooo fat,” it isn’t simply fishing for confirmation or
compliment. Sometimes it’s masochism substituting for the sadism she needs
for balance. If there is no man with a whip, she will feel a deep, unspeakable
need to whip herself. Self-generated drama, conflict, pain, resolution. What is
the point of living if there is nothing to challenge the monotony?
[A]ll organic functions could be traced back to this Will to Power,

and that the solution of the problem of generation and nutrition—
it is one problem—could also be found therein.
Nietzsche, JGB
Marinating in the stagnant, soporific, lukewarm spitbath of beta supplication

gives a girl the lust for ice. Anastasia Steele isn’t an outlier, those books didn’t
make up a quarter of all new sales because women couldn’t relate.
The difference between negative feedback from an alpha and a beta is the
presumption of the criticism’s source. It is psychologically impossible for a
beta (or a woman) to be sincere: he (and she) lashes out when wounded
rather than proceeding from a foundation of obvious strength, from which the
alpha simply delivers truth or teasing. It is the reflexive reaction of prey
versus the purposeful move of the predator.
The will to power is the essence of all living things. Plants don’t want to just
survive, they survive to produce fruit. An animal isn’t content to sit, it needs
to move or flee or hunt or kill. A man motionless in a sensory-deprivation tank
is technically “alive,” just as a conscious comatose patient is, but none of us
recognize this as true life. And a woman who is not starting trouble for the
sake of starting trouble is dangerously, dangerously bored.
Here comes alpha to not only control that dangerous temptation but to absorb
or throw it right back at her. That is the erotic cycle.
So yes, when they figure out that the shit tests are not just ineffective but
also inappropriate with a man like you, they have been “trained” to give up
also inappropriate with a man like you, they have been trained to give up
the pointless preening in order to dance the more sophisticated tango with a
partner who can lead her.
Matt
driveallnight on November 28, 2012 at 7:36 am
Respect. Ps, Matt I hope you’re absolutely, utterly destroying GK’s

puss.
Mike.A. on November 26, 2012 at 8:11 pm
The problem I have with compliments is even when you give them they
are generally not accepted.
Wife: Do you like this dress I’m wearing?
Me: Sure.
Wife: Really? or are you just saying that to make me happy?
Me. I mean it.
Wife: really etc etc etc Untill I put my fist through the wall.
or alternatively
Me: No it makes you look fat and really stupid.
then instead of rushing off to change in order to look reasonably presentable in

pubic there is a 30 minute conversation where she tries to persuade me that I
should like what she has on which ends when I put my head through the wall.
Problem is, you’re taking her too serious. Every question of this
nature should be played sexually:
Me: I like it most right beforeI take it off of you to make sweet love to you,
baby. *smack her ass, smirk*
Nick on November 26, 2012 at 9:11 pm
No girl has ever fished for a compliment from me. I’m pretty sure you
actually need to be on their radar in the first place.
Ashen on November 26, 2012 at 9:27 pm
Buck up dude. If ur overweight or scrawny hit the gym or learn how

to box. Don’t sweat the ladies. If you require remedial education in
the cat and mouse game of lust and attraction watch Tao of Steve. Do
things that make you proud of yourself and your pride and self confidence will
show and the right people will be attracted to that.
Nick on November 26, 2012 at 10:18 pm
I lift three days a week and have a 6 pack, yet the only girls I can
attract weigh over well over 200 lbs.
No amount of game will fix my situation. At just age 25, I’ve resigned
myself to a life of hookers.
Your angel’s out there, hermano… have faith, and keep your heart
pure.
Wolfie65 on November 27, 2012 at 8:19 am
25 + 6-pack = whales?
Must be short (=<6'2).
Only way out: Money/fame/power.
Get rich or become some type of celebrity – even if it's 'just' local.
Nick on November 27, 2012 at 11:01 am
Nope. 6’3″.
No amount of 6’3″ & ripped abs compensates for a shitty attitude

and bad game. At 25, I was rail-thin, kinda short 5’8″ with bad
posture, and I was still banging intelligent, model-hot girls with
perfect asses. And this was before studying the charismatic arts and
getting swole.
On the plus side: you’re young, you have a few years to work on your self
esteem & your inner and outer game. But, unless you change your beliefs,
you’ve probably sealed your fate to being a loser when you said: “No
amount of game will fix my situation. At just age 25, I’ve resigned myself
to a life of hookers.”
That some weesh stuff, feeling sorry for yourself like some fucking lame
ass bitch. Why the fuck are you here? If that’s your attitude, you’d be
better off on some porn or hooker site.
Asshole game, dude. May as well swing for the fence.
whorefinder on November 27, 2012 at 1:23 am
Quit whining. You sound like that black-super catholic-beta dude who
used to be on here.
Go out more, meet drunk people, and stop putting yourself down—put
everyone else down.
Your attitude should be that you are Sean Michaels of the WWE in the 1990s—
everyone woman wants you, you’re going to conquer the world, you’re the
shit.
no, thwack’s still around.
McGinnis on November 28, 2012 at 12:30 am
It really isn’t that bad, you just need to deal with a handicap. It
must suck to have Quasimodo face, but I’ve known some
seriously, seriously messed up looking guys who did well for
themselves. You need to be interesting and have tight game. You’re not a
chick, your looks aren’t your currency.
Maybe you won’t bag a 10. But a nice thin 7 who’s not a bitch is still a
good thing.
whorefinder on November 28, 2012 at 5:17 am
No, shithead, they do not.
It is but one factor.
Have you not been paying attention here?
Heartiste! Emergency! This stupid git needs a lesson in reality!

Get thee to Southeast Asia.
^ @Nick
No one fishes for compliments from a stranger (exception the

seriously neurotic).
Do you go to school? Church? Have a job? Women don’t usually want to hang
out with the weightlifters in the gym, but if you took a yoga class you would
stand out. Don’t worry if you are inflexible, it adds to the conversation…use it
to your advantage. I don’t recommend clubs or bars…that’s a crappy
environment to meet anyone.
Nick on November 28, 2012 at 12:13 am
I graduated a few years ago. Lived on campus and didn’t get any
action the entire four years. Ended up losing my virginity to a
hooker in my last semester, at 22.
Couldn’t find a job, so I’m going back for a master’s in something

practical. Never tried yoga class. That’s not really something girls my age
do here.
Everyone I ever dated I met in class. Maybe you could major in

something like health administration (education, et al)…something
that a lot of women take.
Wish I could say something more, my time at the University was one of
the loneliest in my life (I wasn’t the only one to feel that way, others told
me that as well), and I went to a party school. Sometimes being in a
crowd of hundreds or thousands can be lonlier than sitting in a room by
yourself.
Mostly I think the secret is attitude…confidence is key, and if you like

women, they can sense it. If you don’t, they can sense that to (regardless
of faux ‘game’ moves). A great portion of the posts here sound like the
‘players’ don’t like women in general, and that will come through and they
will only attract women who like to be treated like crap (bipolar, neurotic
types, or some sheriff of cuntingham who is terminally insecure…or the
bunny burner). Be nice, offer compliments if you feel like it (not in a needy
way, not to get someone to like you), and don’t only be nice to the good
looking ones, because the good looking ones notice that too (which goes
back to the ‘like women’ above). And don’t be a chick…which again, a
large portion of the posters here seem miss the mark. Overthinking “will
she call? Will I sound too needy if I text/pay a compliment/…blah blah…”
this is what a chick would do.
Personal anecdote: The smoothest guy I’ve ever met was my date (still
with him) at a formal Christmas charity event. The money was primarily
generated from auctioning off an elf costume (the loser had to wear it). He
bid initially, but there were a lot of deeper pockets and he ended up having
to wear a small sized elf costume on his 6 foot 3 (buff) frame. To include
tights, and the little booties…again, this was a relatively formal event, it
was almost lewd, candidly. He took two napkins from the table and rolled
them up so it looked like he had a giant errection with his package
hanging down the side of his leg in the tights, and then he pretended to
limp around holding that leg straight out. I swear to God by the end of
that night everyone who had bid not to wear the outfit wished they were
wearing it…women were seriously all over him, there was a line of women
waiting their turn to take their picture with him…it took about two hours.
That is what confidence can pull off. And no, it didn’t bother me because
I’m pretty confident too, therefore I assume someone I’m with isn’t with
me because he can’t have anyone else. He’s lucky to have me and I’m
lucky to have him.
I should add that this costume was funny as hell…I rolled on the
floor when I saw it, couldn’t stop cackling for a good thirty
minutes.
Aside from the January-May Weight Losers (which most of ‘em

never do) and the Alpha Bitch/Lesbo Workout Nazis, the female
gym rats do want to hang out with the body builders – provided
the body builder in question is either management, staff or one of the
long-time resident members who is basically part of the ‘power structure’
at said gym. They’re usually NOT into some guy who’s just a fellow
worker-outer. Unless he drives a Ferrari.
Not sure I’ve ever come across a straight guy taking a yoga class, but hey
– you can be the first……
ampontan on November 26, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Agreeing and amplifying works for me, with just enough juice so that she
knows you’re teasing, but not going overboard.
jg in texas on November 26, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Totally OT but lol if this is real
The Alchemist on November 27, 2012 at 8:06 am
Sorry, that’s just gross.
Ouroboros on November 26, 2012 at 10:18 pm

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Ripp on November 26, 2012 at 10:25 pm
“eh.” with a slightly positive sounding tone is what I typically use. Aloof,
peculiar, confusing… however not deliberatley insulting.
Can be coupled with a subject change or gesture of disinterest (scroll through

phone, fleet attention to something else. etc.)
Depending on the level of the relationship and situation with the subject, this can
be a great opportunity to escalate physically.
Recalling a time in my car while i was driving. In the passenger seat with a 20yr
old smv8 in mini skirt. we were on our way to venue:
Her: “I have the hottest legs. Guys love my legs and always say my legs are the
best part of my body.”
Ripp: [pregnant pause] “eh”
Her: “omg! you’re such a dick…I wanna almost cry.”
Ripp: “shuut up. nerd.” (sarcastic, playful tone). [quick glance over coupled with a
healthy grab of the inner thigh and slow trace up her leg]
This example was a 2nd or 3rd meet with a subject. Same routine can be used
with cold approach/initial meets also. After the “eh” ruffles her feathers, resolve
with quick hug, cheek kiss, arm brush or any situationally appropriate kino
escalation.
For LTRs or STRs where sexual line has been crossed I always respond with a
cocky/funny reframe and sexual kino:
Her: “I told you I looked hot in this dress.”
Ripp: [silence, slow approach and observe her outfit with an obvious critical eye]
“It really helps when you’re standing next to me.” [hard ass cheek grab and
spread, light back of neck brush or hair pull, roll off].
Excellent charismatic moments here, Ripp.
Your 20-year old smv8 was qualifying herself to you pretty hard, your
move was charismatic jujitsu, using her move against her.
This becomes totally natural when one really internalizes the mindset. It’s
reminiscent of the hunter gene that is switched on the moment a man enters
a field or forest with a weapon, and his vision & hearing become extra sharp.
It feels good when the primordial, instinctive mind kicks in.
walawala on November 26, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Another girl I”m gaming who’s been giving me IOI’s I ping the other day:
Me: hey crazy cat lady, come out to my club. We’ll practice our dance
moves
Her: (minutes later)Hey james bond. Sorry cant make it. I’m having dinner with
my family. See you fri or sat
Me: (replying 1 day later) ….bring takeaway for me
this idea of mystery, ambiguity, not accepting a bullshit excuse….i don’t think i
would have done this before discovering and understanding game.
When you guys get married, you’ll understand that sometimes you have
to take the bait when they fish for a compliment… observe:
Wifey: (gazing at herself in the mirror, then lets out a sigh) “Oh, honey… I’m
starting to look so old… my hair has more and more gray each day, and my laugh
lines are starting to look like crow’s feet.”
Me: “Perhaps, dear… but your eyesight is still perfect.”
This, is the home I grew up in.
Not sure if it was good or bad, or if you should be telling your 9 year
old daughter she’s got thunder thighs (hey, caused body image issues which in
return make me a gym rat = no thunder thighs). But growing up w that stuff…
Made me realize what’s really important in a mate and it’s not the beta pulling
out your seat, gentleman shit. That stuff comes out I am neither attracted or
trusting of that person.
In the end it is the cutting of the BS. The games. It’s who will be there for you
when you’re sick, when you go through hard times, who is a good person in
their heart. The rude remarks or not paying for diner are like, superficial, don’t
mean much if at heart they are just, evil.
Hugh G. Rection on November 27, 2012 at 9:29 am
I really hate the term “body image issues”. It’s only an image
issue when you think something about your body that’s not
objectively true. So in this case you were a victim of your love for
cake and candy, not the astute observation of a man.
body image issue, at least in my estimation does no equate to

having a bad body. So, if you are fit and constantly self conscious,
think you are fat, weigh yourself 5 times a day, etc. that it is an
image issue.
I never said I was overweight. It is just something that can never leave
my subconscious, that equates weight gain with personal failure, that
hates herself if a lb is gained, even if she looks better a lil rounder
(imagine what would happen to J.Lo if she’s lost 10 lbs and her ass
disappeared).
We can come up with another euphemism for body dysmorphia if it

pleases you.
Damn, I’m used to my jests falling flat, but up to now, they never
led to an Oprah moment.
I’ve gotta get some new material… sigh.
A Ralston on November 27 2012 at 1:08 pm

A.Ralston on November 27, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Naw, keep going, my friend. You have a following here. I’m a little
slow on the uptake, so it took me an extra second to catch its
elegance.
As a long-term married guy I cannot even guess how many versions of

this narcissistic interrogative lament I have heard over the years. A
response such as yours, though, would likely elude my wife.
That said, it seems my recent attempts as a beginner to introduce

rudimentary game into our marriage have yielded tentative gains.
Ah, if we only knew then what we know now, amiright?
Continued success, my friend.
nah, only if you’re dating a woman emotionally scared and

hardened by a genuinely great dad in every way except that he
had NO filter and was fairly, ok, a huge ass sometimes
Serenety on November 27, 2012 at 12:00 am
When they’re fishing for clothing compliments I find the following

generally full or mirth and merriment
Pause.
Say to her “let me have a look”
Look at her for a moment. Give yourself that hmmm look so that she can see your
expression, as you run your eyes over her body
Then tell her to turn around for you.
If she doesn’t or won’t, your in the clear, run your game mercilessly on her
If she does, no matter how she does it tell her to turn around slowly, correct her
however she does it. Examine her closely as she does
Tell her you want to see her with heels on, or to change shoes to see if it would
suit better if she already has heels on.
I can pretty much 99% guarantee you won’t get asked this too often after this, if
she’s a natural bitch.
Depending on where you want to take it.
Comment on how it makes her ass stick out too much or her belly or makes her
thighs look fat or tell her to stand straighter, pull her shoulders back slightly.
The possibilities are virtually endless I tell you.
When I tell her to turn around slowly and study her for awhile, she
gets that glow in her eyes and we always wind up in the sack… and
late for whatever engagement to which we were supposed to be heading.
Ya!
Because as everyone knows, self conscious women are loads of fun in
the sack. The more self-conscious and “fat” you make her feel, the
more she likes to fuck. In the land of Warcraft.
Neminem on November 27, 2012 at 12:24 am
*incuriously shrugs*
Bell-mare on November 27, 2012 at 1:02 am
http://news.msn.com/world/update-mexican-beauty-queen-killed-in-
shootout
I seem to recall that this is not the first time a model has been found in
association with Mexican drug-dealers.
You know what dont work… “it’s not ‘that’ cute”, after Listening to my ..
Whoever, guy I was dating, gloat for like 4 hours about how many guys,
yes guys, hit on him that night. Valintines, we saw “Love Story” is the
gayest neighborhood in San Francisco, so we’re talkin really f*king gay.
Yah, he got hit on and he friggin adored the attention. He always was very
obvious about adoring any attention. What is that?
Anyhow, after the like 8th comment, I retorted that, if we weren’t In the Castro
I’d prolly get a few looks w my cute lil school girl outfit goin on… Yep his reply..
It’s not that cute.
Did this turn me on? Was this an effective response? No. Plain and simple. I can
take a lotta critism, but , it was just so pointless, he was so basking in his own
light, it was gross.
I Want have sex, 9 times out of 10 at any given moment w a guy I’m dating. That
night, I did not. I pushed and pushed him away and finally gave in just to get
some sleep!
Is this beta? He was so alpha in every other way, this need for attention, rather
the acknoledgement of attention … Was weird.
And no, I don’t generally compliment fish. I am not good at taking or giving
compliments.
Ok, so the Bi guy was only imagining the attention he got from the
Bois and got sex, even if he had to work hard to get it.
Mission accomplished.
I admire your ability to translate exotic languages.
Plumnuts on November 27, 2012 at 9:25 am
His need to communicate to you that other people find him attractive
was the beginnings of a hairline crack that was developing into a
gorge anyway. Given the context, his comment just accelerated the
process and did you a favour. Womens hindbrains & attraction switches being
what they are, are on the front lines of evolutionary progress, finely tuned
instruments of darwinism with the final say on whos seed deserves
propagation and who gets left by the wayside. The man measurement tool. No
surprises then that even very low concentrations of neediness disqualify a man
from getting his rocks off. Especially after watching a film like that on
valentines in the gayest corner of the universe.
A good friend of mine acknowledged valentines day just once in the 5 years he
was with his ex by giving her a pineapple. Even years after them breaking up
she’s still besotted with him.
very astute observation. the whole thing was… uncomfortable. it

wasn’t about celebrating V-day.. it wasn’t meant to but of course
it was there so it had to. I really wanted to attend this event.
I bought 2 tix before he even agreed, my roommate was my backup date.

so it was the kind of thing where our relationship WAS on thin ice there
so, it was the kind of thing where our relationship WAS on thin ice, there
was this sappy PERFECT V-day thing going on at this Historical Theater w
the academy award winning actress talking about the film and doing q & a,
and I had read the book 2 years ago and dyyying to see the film and just
really wanted to go.
That it was on V-day I could see how he would either consciously or not be
a lil cruel, knock me down, tell me, yea ok, I went out w u (though I paid
for the tix, he paid for dinner), but youre still not my GF and don’t you
forget it
pro tip: stop dating alpha homos.
win.
hahaha. Funny. I know a few. Never been a victim to dating them

before – seen it in a few friends. Gotta be on the look-out, they
sneak in!
He still got some.
Gay men hit on me all the time too and I live in the South, so I
guess that means….I could get some too.
Gay men hit on me all the time
The guys who hit on me are invariably not happy at all.
yep. always got what he wanted. that’s what made him a

successful salesman and Alpha, gay or staight
Are you seriously a girl?
yah, hard to even spin myself on this one. no justification for why
I dated him, continued to date him and still think about him.
just… gotta chalk this one up to mental defect (on my end).
We’re still waiting for pictures of your soi-disant huge boobs.
lol. like via personal email. I write am the “amateur blogger”. I

write about stuff, not keep an amateur porn site,
rich on November 27, 2012 at 2:55 am
better: “oh yeah..?” and just let her keep on throwing out that bait
Steve Canyon on November 27, 2012 at 7:05 am
I just do what my Dad did: grunt “mmhmm”, and usually while not even
looking up from whatever I’m doing.
Strauss on November 27, 2012 at 10:17 am
OT, but just another case of hot chicks chasing jerks/thugs:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/27/world/americas/mexican-beauty-
pageant-contestant-killed-in-shootout.html
This is about the third posting of this item on this very thread.
Doesn’t anyone bother to read anymore?
Didja hear about the Mexican beauty queen killed in a shootout?
Rape!
They seem to take their pageants quite seriously south o’ the

border.
There’s a show called ‘Nuestra Belleza Latina’ on Telemundo or

Univision, can’t remember which off then top of my head, comes
on fairly regularly. They also have several TV specials leading up
to all those televised ‘Miss’ contests.
Next time you have to listen to some fuggo fem nag about how obsessed
the US are with looks, politely point them towards the Spanish language
channels……
And another thing I noticed about the Spanish channels is that

even the “family variety” shows never fail to have scantily-clad
girls flouncing about… those folk certainly can’t be accused of
puritanical mores.
Viva La Raza, indeed.
Seriously, I’m gringo and I love that prog. Scantily clad latin
broads ftw.
We’ll be there in a couple of more years when out whole nation turns
into Detriot…
“I once wrote about a girl I knew of who was desperate to get a narco
boyfriend,” [Valdez] said. “She practically took out a classified ad saying
‘Looking for a Narco’.”
The stories seldom end well. In the best of cases, a beautiful woman with a
tear-stained face is marched before the press in handcuffs. In the worst of
cases, they simply disappear.
“They are disposable objects, the lowest link in the chain of criminal
organizations, the young men recruited as gunmen and the pretty young
women who are tossed away in two or three years, or are turned into police or
killed,” Valdez said.
Talk about riding the Cock Carousel to being Pumped-n-Dumped… pack your
bags, we’re going to Hell. Thank you, feminazis, you’ll miss civilization when
it’s gone.
Live fast, Die young. r-selection FTW!

I’m curious about how it’s gonna end.
Sam Pam on November 27, 2012 at 12:43 pm
I was pleasantly surprised to see King A or Greg Eliot haven’t brought

their racist crap in this posts’ comments, then I spotted whorefinder’s
post, yep Le Chateu Stormfront is still alive. Lol
Sigh… another dweeb who talks about “racist crap” from King A and
Greg Eliot but gives the Dark Side a pass on their antiwhite and/or
Afrocentrist bullshit… which is invariably what we are responding to
with our defense of our own folk.
Hit the road, you bum… we already have enough of what you’re selling.
And what whorefinder post would that be? Lol
Wake up, SWPL. You let the baiting go on, allowing their abject
debasement of you to stink up the place without a peep of protest. You find it
“pleasant[]” and refreshing to be made the bitch. Not all of us are on your
easygoing euthanasia program. Lol
Try noticing who is responsible for turning the conversation racial, every time,
and has nothing otherwise to say. But like the Stockholm Syndrome type you
are, you identify with the master who cuckolds you, to the point of mistaking
the source of nearly every original provocation. You are so white-guilty, you
can’t even follow a comment tree. Lol
Matt
Backdoor Man on November 27, 2012 at 2:29 pm
I wonder how this couple handled compliment fishing.
http://gma.yahoo.com/obese-woman-denied-flights-home-dies-abroad-
191137549–abc-news-topstories.html
muscleman on November 27, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Ambiguity a la ‘sure’ is a good one, but at some point you do need to

acknowledge compliment fishing. Particularly in its milder form,
validation. For example, when a chick starts sending you pics and they
get racier, you don’t have to say ‘sexy’ but some acknowledgement, even the
occasional ‘nice’, works. It’s all in the calibration.
‘Sure’ game, as you noted, is all about tone of voice. Slightly wrong inflection and
she’ll get the wrong impression (one of rejection rather than aloofness).
lmao 2x on November 27, 2012 at 3:54 pm
delusion here : Bl—e F—-x “I’m 32 and have two kids. My belly is saggy,
my tits have seen better days, and I don’t even come close to fitting into
my pre-mom jeans. I’m even starting to see wrinkles around my eyes
and mouth. And you know what? I am sexy as hell. All is not lost just because you
hit 30/have kids/acquire a belly.”
My belly is saggy, my tits have seen better days, and I don’t even
come close to fitting into my pre-mom jeans. I’m even starting to see
wrinkles around my eyes and mouth.
Perhaps, darling, but your eyes are as sharp as ever.
/twice in one thread!
Troll on November 27, 2012 at 4:13 pm
Not to nit pick but I’m a super secret troll.
Yeah, and you’ve been on double-secret probation since last

semester.
Ken_in_SC (@Ken_in_SC) on November 27, 2012 at 8:03 pm
The purpose of sex is to make babies; not amuse 6th grade boys. I used
to tell this to my students when I was still teaching. However, they were
still amused by it.
kosmos on November 28, 2012 at 3:23 pm
This is a great tip but the hardest part of game is to get the woman to
actually care about what you think of her. No game can work without this
premise. Any concrete advices about this ?
aspic on November 29, 2012 at 2:20 am
“Media outlets are beginning to grapple with a “war on men”. CH theory is

infiltrating the cathedral.”
Dude, those are MRA ideas.
But i’m sure CH invented water, shoes and breathing as well.
Fishing for compliment to reassure themselves? “Make me splooge, babe,

and I’ll tell you you’re hot… justify my love!”
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“Sure.” "I'm tired of the game" Game.

Mischievous Fishie: “Sure.” 5 hours ago

from her hook. Arbiter on The Seductive

Like Feedback: The State

No, “Really” is the ultimate response because if you inflect it right C

TB at BlueCollarWorkman on November 27, 2012 at 8:58 am G

my new one is: S

anonymous does not forgive on November 27, 2012 at 12:06 pm

cares too much on November 27, 2012 at 12:43 pm

I’m a bodybuilfer with a 9 gf. Sometimes I run into social anixety,

lol the hell is a wargame convention

immoralgables on November 26, 2012 at 2:49 pm

“A for effort, A- for execution”

I need to try out the line more.

*Do I look good in this dress?*

retrophoebia on November 26, 2012 at 3:33 pm

Inadvertent gem from ImmoralGables’ post: I could see myself

Risk: if delivery’s wrong, it could come across as a bit too prickish.

No, I don’t actually wear dresses.

Anon on November 26, 2012 at 4:16 pm

Are you high?

retrophoebia on November 26, 2012 at 4:45 pm

yeahokcool on November 27, 2012 at 10:13 am

I like it. I will try this.

Liz on November 26, 2012 at 8:41 pm

Hugh G. Rection on November 27, 2012 at 9:00 am

A man gets used to that. The vagina and other openings

needy men fish for compliments by giving them away

PetiteOlive on November 27, 2012 at 3:52 am

once had a beta ex that fished for compliments. He would make

the fauvist on November 27, 2012 at 3:43 pm

Dude on November 26, 2012 at 3:02 pm

Ari on November 26, 2012 at 3:17 pm

Rather than “sure” I prefer “Yep.”

Transmillenium on November 26, 2012 at 3:19 pm

driveallnight on November 26, 2012 at 6:07 pm

One of my faves, deployed monotone.

Nupnupnup on December 4, 2012 at 1:47 pm

It’s really Spanish. Tagalog just adopted it.

John Galt on November 26, 2012 at 3:21 pm

I personally like two “sure”‘s and then a “maybe.”

stevejabba on November 26, 2012 at 3:43 pm

immoralgables on November 26, 2012 at 4:09 pm

Revo Luzione on November 26, 2012 at 4:25 pm

Women have very rich experiences, and a tremendous amount of power.

stevejabba on November 26, 2012 at 4:56 pm

I don’t “lose” any power at all. Infact I don;t even acknowledge

It boils down to this:

Repeat : You get out what you put in,

Then it might be a bit clearer what I’m talking about.

Matthew King (King A) on November 26, 2012 at 6:33 pm

Yeah. Clear as a new-age crystal, substituting sentimentality for

It is important to scrutinize this gradual retirement of first- and second-

Why is this important? Because the middle-age is a man’s prime, where he

We are just beginning to put together a new pragmatism, so kindly stow

Then it might be a bit clearer what I’m talking about.

No, it is quite clear, because big-talking charlatans are not an unfamiliar

FuriousFerret on November 27, 2012 at 12:38 am

Game recognized sir.

Do I look good in this dress?