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Flirty Quips To Female Small Talk


April 9, 2012 by CH Copyright © 2015. Chateau
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Comments are a lunchroom
Surprisingly few men know how to flirt. (It’s surprising because, given the
food fight and do not
importance of flirting to evoking a feeling of incipient sexual release in a girl’s
necessarily represent the
mind, you’d think evolution would have ensured a lot more men are skilled at the
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craft. I consider the absence of widely distributed flirting skills, particularly among
proprietors or contributors.
northern europeans and asians, to be evidence that for much of mankind’s
ancestral past the sex ratio was skewed enough in the typical man’s favor that he
didn’t need to learn how to appeal to women’s romantic needs.) Visit the Goodbye, America
photojournal website.
But I digress. When girls ask simple questions, or when they engage in innocuous
chit chat, it’s in your interest as a lover of positive, sexualized female attention to
answer them in a flirty way. Training yourself to parry female small talk with P
unexpected flirtatious jousts is, at the least, great for honing your game, even
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when it doesn’t lead to a bang.
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in my daily life anytime I hear an opening in some banal conversation that I Beta Of The Year
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GIRL: “Which way is it to [X]?”

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All right… ready to hang on my every word? few men have those options
compared to volume of opp…
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Yes. You can be happy now. @Tears4Clowns The sexual
market has a nihilism bias.
GIRL: “What do you do?”
But women who really fear
You didn’t just ask that. abandonment have another
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GIRL: [in an elevator] “Could you press 4?”
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This is just like in the movies!
@MiaoReport Sure, but like
GIRL: “My shift is ending soon. Can I close you out?” White altruism, it never stops

Your flirting skills need work. "working" until the


environment changes and
GIRL: “I think the coffee machine’s broken.” makes it pathological.

Tried to put vodka in it again, didn’t ya? 3 weeks ago

GIRL: “Where’s your car?” @therajraj That's probably


right, but at the margins
Tijuana. sustained and aggressive agit-

GIRL: “That sounds like a good idea.” prop can alter people's
behavior. 3 weeks ago
Hey, it’s me!
@FredAGunter @ClarkHat
GIRL: “It’s a really nice day today.”
USA circa 1955 was ~90%
Thanks! White. That couldn't have
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GIRL: “That’s a cool hat.”
dominance then. 3 weeks ago
Flattery will get you everywhere.

GIRL: “Are you waiting in line?”


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Good examples.
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Anon on April 9, 2012 at 4:20 pm

Solid post.
Now waiting for Yareally’s link toward RSDnation guys who broke it down. C
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Seriously, this flirting stuff is the most important part of game, I want more.

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lol this is just DeAngelo’s cocky/funny concept. It’s good to refresh The Daily Sarge
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The trick is to be congruent with your routines and to understand the 60 Years of Challenge
structure. Like why does it work and how can you rewrite it to fit your Alpha Game
personality. A lot of routines that worked for me when I was a newbie don’t Cajun
work for me now because they’re incongruent so cocky/funny comes off too Krauser PUA
arrogant. Same time sexual stories don’t have as much shock impact for me Rational Male
now because girls can just tell “ya this is a guy who would say things like Roosh V
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over and over you get bored and it becomes work. If you’re in that situation
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now, get out of it by pushing yourself further. Go for the kiss sooner, go for
the lay sooner, go for the hottest girl, go for the 3-some, etc.
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Lara on April 9, 2012 at 4:22 pm Anonymous Conservative

Any man who thinks he’s better than me, probably is. Arts & Letters Daily
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lprsic@yahoo.com on April 9, 2012 at 4:37 pm Whiskey's Place

What does it mean to be “better” than someone? Better in what way?

[heartiste: moar trollish.]


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Maya on April 9, 2012 at 4:37 pm Alias Clio
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Surprisingly few men know how to flirt.”
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Girls don’t know how to flirt either. Feminine Beauty

[heartiste: girls are better natural flirts than men.] Gucci Little Piggy
Hawaiian Libertarian
I don’t. Hyperbole and a Half
[color me shocked.] In Mala Fide
Jack Goes Forth
My flirting always consisted of shit testing, teasing, wearing cute girlish clothes,
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behaving like a small cute child, … Now this doesn’t work anymore Shit testing
The Fourth Checkraise
and teasing sound pathetic when you are 30, wearing girly clothes and pretending
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that you are a child are also very inappropriate for my age. Any flirting tips for
Udolpho
older women?

[yes. try the basic instinct method.]

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Maya on April 9, 2012 at 4:59 pm

Delete these two comments, please. This is not flirting or anything. I


just realized that I’m a pathetic bloodsucker. I shouldn’t be spending
my time on your blog anymore. I will go out instead and meet real
people, I promise. Bye!

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Maya on April 9, 2012 at 5:33 pm

This is not funny anymore. What’s wrong with me? CH, can you
delete your blog?

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Maya on April 9, 2012 at 5:40 pm

I’m not criticizing your writing which is still interesting but I would
prefer if you just stop writing this blog – this is the only way that
will make me stop reading it. Do that, please.

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Harkat on April 10, 2012 at 6:07 am

Boom goes any notion of Maya not being a troll.

DUDE, you blew it.

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Lara on April 9, 2012 at 5:36 pm

If you want to comment, go ahead. You aren’t hurting anyone.

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Maya on April 9, 2012 at 5:41 pm

Yes, I’m hurting myself. I don’t want to do that anymore but I


can’t stop.

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Flahute on April 9, 2012 at 5:52 pm

Just imagine how addicted you would get to being treated like a
rag doll and jackhammered properly.

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King A (Matthew King) on April 10, 2012 at 1:22 am

Maya: Delete your bookmark. Give yourself two weeks off. Buy a
nice, loose sun dress and go for a walk. Feel the warmth on your
face, let the breeze wick the sweat from your swampy inner
thighs. It’s springtime. There’s plenty to do.

Once you’re high and dry, you’ll be surprised at how waterlogged you had
become without realizing it.

Then come back and contemplate the epic female silliness of the
confession: “I would prefer if you just stop writing this blog – this is the
only way that will make me stop reading it.”

You are wine turning into vinegar.

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Anonymous on April 10, 2012 at 11:22 am

Love to see you back.


Please stop lurking, and get back to us with your prose as soon as
as you can.

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King A (Matthew King) on April 11, 2012 at 11:51 am

I haven’t been lurking.

Anonymous encouragement is contradictory and damn near an


oxymoron. At least develop a pseudonym for accountability’s sake.

And adopt your real name as quickly (if cautiously) as you can.
Commenter A.B. Dada is your model, though he is a little bit on the
reckless side when it comes to securing one’s online identity on a wide-
open, public, and permanent platform.

Matt

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Spiralina on April 9, 2012 at 11:16 pm

This “Maya” performance art has taken a turn from pathetic into
comical. Well played.

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itsme on April 10, 2012 at 10:25 am

i guess it just happened.

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itsme on April 10, 2012 at 10:24 am

pretending to be a child….no wonder you only attract the child


molestor type of guys.

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GeishaKate on April 9, 2012 at 4:41 pm

“GIRL: [in an elevator] “Could you press 4?”

This is just like in the movies!”

LOL

GIRL: A horror movie?

[heartiste: GUY: If that’s your thing.]


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GeishaKate on April 9, 2012 at 5:37 pm

I don’t have a thing.

[heartiste: that’s a relief.]

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GeishaKate on April 9, 2012 at 5:51 pm

*decides its a good time to check her phone*

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Anonymous on April 9, 2012 at 6:58 pm

Gay.

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Dude Jr. on April 9, 2012 at 8:19 pm

*punches you in the face*

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GeishaKate on April 10, 2012 at 8:13 am

Excuse me, but the elevator hasn’t made any stops, so kindly hold
your peace. If heartiste chooses to continue the demonstration,
you might learn something.

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YB on April 10, 2012 at 8:31 pm

*gets her number*

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King A (Matthew King) on April 10, 2012 at 1:35 am

pwned. Geisha takes this round. You’d better have some physical
assets to back up your sass, though. Otherwise it’s simple
cuntery.

Quips and witticisms are sprinkles on the cupcake. If you have a solid
package together, you can make a head-nod seem like poetry.

But rendered as screenplay dialogue here, it all seems too cute by half. We
are not living in a stichomythiac Cary Grant-Grace Kelly movie.

*decides its a good time to check her phone* = TKO

[heartiste: what we have here, is…. a failure to appreciate.]

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GeishaKate on April 10, 2012 at 12:25 pm

“*decides its a good time to check her phone* = TKO”

Actually, this was “girl” ceding conversation back to “guy” as you


can see dialogue started by “girl” quickly goes nowhere. Also a simple test
to see whether “guy” is truly interested or just making chit chat. Could
also be a state break.

Just because you are not living in a Cary Grant/Grace Kelly movie doesn’t
mean I’m not And how the heck did you get in this elevator?

[heartiste: i got ya, gk. “king a”, perhaps unsurprisingly, did not.
my teachings, like the parable of the sower, are not taking root in
king a’s hardscrabble soil.]

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King A (Matthew King) on April 10, 2012 at 12:59 pm

Like I said, on the page it comes off as try-hard. The real


communication is in the intonations and inflections.

When you inspire onlookers to fantasize about “*punch[ing] you in the


face*” that is lady FTW. And also very rare. The Grant-Kelly banter
breakdown is usually the vapid woman’s fault. (And you can’t blame her,
her job is to look pretty not talk pretty.) This seemed like one of those
unusual instances where the girl came out on top, and it should be noted,
like spotting an endangered bird.

Even more rare: the combination of quick wits required to do this in real
time, rather than in spaced-out comment posts.

Tell us about the last time you had one of these temperature-raising
staccato exchanges IRL. That will go a long way to helping us understand
just how much you really are “living in a Cary Grant/Grace Kelly movie.”
I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt.

Matt

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GeishaKate on April 10, 2012 at 1:19 pm

Generally, in real time and real life I end up laughing too hard to
talk I’ll eventually crack, much to the amusement of the person
I’m with.

FTW? No, Heartiste was just going easy on me

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Maya on April 10, 2012 at 1:22 pm

Boring … Could you just stop commenting on this blog?

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King A (Matthew King) on April 11, 2012 at 10:44 am

Geisha: the suck-uppery is unbecoming, even in a woman. There


is an art to flattery, and the number one rule is be subtle/indirect.
Otherwise you inspire the thought of ulterior motives and
manipulation. Are you a “geisha” or aren’t you?

(Leave the gushing to Maya, who alternates from ecstatic to suicidal like
the best of the bipolars … and we get a comment-post for every lurch
along her neurotic rollercoaster. What a mess.)

“Generally, in real time and real life I end up laughing too hard to talk
I’ll eventually crack, much to the amusement of the person I’m with.”

That’s what I mean. Anybody who doesn’t laugh IRL (or doesn’t show the
twinkle in his eye) at an attempt to effect surreal movie-dialogue is
preposterous. And to see a woman neutralize it with real wit like you did is
even more laugh-inducing. Most of the time IRL the man has to be witty
enough for both, especially with young girls. Your creativity leads me to
believe you are an older woman: maturing ladies are forced to develop
personality in the attempt to offset declining assets.

Matt

[heartiste: here’s lookin at you, king a.]

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GeishaKate on April 11, 2012 at 12:44 pm

Its not my fault I have a personality. I was held at gunpoint. (You


really shouldn’t encourage me:))


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King A (Matthew King) on April 25, 2012 at 1:09 pm

Heartiste wrote:

i got ya, gk. “king a”, perhaps unsurprisingly, did not.


my teachings, like the parable of the sower, are not taking root
in king a’s hardscrabble soil.

“As for the seed that fell among thorns, they are the ones who have heard,
but as they go along, they are choked by the anxieties and riches and
pleasures of life, and they fail to produce mature fruit.” — Luke 8:14

If you had talent for exegesis, you might actually make some use of this
parable. It doesn’t condemn you for your (t)horniness so much as it
demonstrates the generosity of the sower. He knows fruit will not grow
among the obstinate and sour minded, and yet he bestows on you the
germ of wisdom anyway.

You don’t have “teachings.” You have observations. If you want to truly
teach, rebbe, you have to become much more agnostic (i.e., less thorny)
than you already are. Wisdom can’t grow where there are already weeds,
even pretty weeds, the kind that have so completely captured your
attention.

Matt

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chi-town on April 10, 2012 at 5:56 pm

I’d have to go with: “Looks like a mystery to me”.

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GeishaKate on April 10, 2012 at 6:36 pm

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King A (Matthew King) on April 11, 2012 at 11:00 am

Perfect.

All of the Heartiste lines in this case were functional placeholders


— they keep the scene together while allowing the vibe to develop.
Practical but not scintillating. But all of the responses were truly clever
retorts that hed their own, even on the page. Well done.

That’s not a commentary on Heartiste in general, sycophants. His skill is


patent and not really up for discussion. It is a commentary on the relative
effectiveness of this particular example. Which is the point of trial, error,
and roleplay. What good are toadies who have forgotten the utility of
criticism?

I recall your host and master acknowledging that blogs like these are “the
world’s largest trial and error experiment ever performed.” You reduce
mediocrity by calling it out. If you’re genuinely interested in improvement,
you welcome criticism.

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St on April 9, 2012 at 4:45 pm

lol, what an excellent post

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whorefinder on April 9, 2012 at 4:48 pm


For the autistic tards out there, here are some BAD flirty lines:

Girl: Hi, how are—


You: I WILL RAPE YOU.

Girl: Who did you vote—-


You: Let me give you a 15-minute harrangue on tax policy. THEN I WILL RAPE
YOU.

Girl: Could pass me the–


You: RAPE!

Girl: Excuse—
You: RAPE RAPE RAPE HERPES RAPE!

Got it? The rule is:

NEVER INTERRUPT HER OPENING LINE, BITCHES!

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YaReally on April 9, 2012 at 11:12 pm

I’ve used one of those.

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Maya on April 10, 2012 at 11:26 am

Sure you did.

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YaReally on April 10, 2012 at 4:14 pm

lol the guys at RSD have a Rape Van and routinely tell girls to kill
themselves. I’ve opened by telling girls im going to give them aids
from fucking them in the ass.

You can get away with a lot when you know what you’re doing. This stuff
isn’t for noobs

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sup on April 14, 2012 at 4:16 pm

i tried this, opened with “hey fucker”, girl responded “whaddup


faggot”. dropped the aids line, she said ‘sure, but you’d get crabs
and gonorrhoea. hope that’s alright’

seems like a good response but i was in way over my head. said ‘that’s
disgusting’ and reverted to my regular game. as soon as i lost that
consistency we lost the vibe. want to try it again tho, definitely pushes
some boundaries

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King A (Matthew King) on April 10, 2012 at 1:39 am

“BAD flirty lines” or … how women who are used to getting hit on
interpret forced repartee

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Firepower on April 10, 2012 at 10:56 am

Other bad, bad, flirty lines:


“I’m from the SPLC and I dig your blog – the beard’s kickass, too.”

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Jesus on April 9, 2012 at 4:53 pm


cool as fuck. right mindset level, unlocked. the last one is good too, if
you’ve seen attraction in her eyes and deliver it perfectly.

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askjoe on April 9, 2012 at 4:57 pm

thanks, I’ve instinctually felt the need to give straight answers to girls
I’ve found attractive and feeling the loving feeling dwindle away whereas
dismissive smart ass remarks seem to always win. Must focus on
quippage. Or better yet, you know, the devilish rogue you love in the movies
almost always gives bullshit answers to questions. So learn from them.

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Days of Broken Arrows on April 9, 2012 at 5:11 pm

I have a hard time these days flirting with American women, because the
goal is that you end up with an American woman.

I do have a great line for foreign women, which Eastern European women seem to
especially be amused by:

Her: Can you tell me is zees ze line?


Me: Sure, if you stop faking that accent.

[heartiste: that’s pretty good.]

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V on April 9, 2012 at 8:41 pm

“Me: Sure, if you stop faking that accent.”


I’m definately going to use this…hehe…

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YaReally on April 9, 2012 at 11:16 pm

In Europe say:

“ya well, I’ve found that European girls are prettier than American
girls. But American girls are better in bed.”

I use that when I travel anywhere. The type of girls you’re talking to are the
prettier ones and the type of girls they hate are the better in bed ones, it has
a horrible effect if you fuck up and say it the other way around. The reasons
should be obvious to anyone reading this blog.

The hamster wheel shoots sparks with this bit lol it’s hilarious and really easy
to lead the conversation into.

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Maya on April 10, 2012 at 11:13 am

Actually, girls don’t really hate girls who are said to be “good in
bed”. We feel sorry for them.

“ya well, I’ve found that European girls are prettier than American girls.
But American girls are better in bed.”

Talking about girl’s beauty the first time you meet her = omega.
Talking about which girls are good in bed = disrespectful and misogynistic.
Keep this for yourself.

In conclusion, your line can’t work on anyone.

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Anonymous on April 10, 2012 at 1:24 pm

I’ll save you the reply, YR.

Maya, go out and try to pick up chicks.

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Maya on April 10, 2012 at 2:54 pm

I’m fantastic at picking up chicks. And I’m getting better and


better. I could be a lesbian if I wanted.

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itsme on April 10, 2012 at 4:50 pm

you should switch yourself back into dyke mode. you’ll be more
successful.

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YaReally on April 10, 2012 at 4:20 pm

lol I’m still pretty sure maya is just a dude trolling. At least the
women posting here help demonstrate the “don’t listen to women
about how to pick up women” rule.

Love the shit out of women but every game community gets inefficient and
starts going downhill as more and more women think they’re special
unique self-aware snowflakes who have something to offer about this topic
as they muddle the conversations and force people to stress “please don’t
listen to her advice” and give noobs hope to cling onto “see??? A girl SAID
she likes nice guys so screw this game stuff!!!”

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itsme on April 10, 2012 at 5:23 pm

remember, though, that all comments are held in moderation until


heartsie lets them through. he wants us to see those inane
comments.

just imagine the comments that didn’t make it through…

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chi-town on April 10, 2012 at 6:16 pm

Sure you can.

“its a beautiful thing to see someone who can be attractive with


just a good personality”.

See, used it in a sentence.

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Lololblackguy on April 10, 2012 at 8:37 pm

Lol Maya you are dumb. ‘american chicks are better In bed’
triggers both Preselection from other women, gets her thinking of
him sexually, and sparks the competition in her. Also by saying
European girls are more attractive, he’s qualified her indirectly, but also
direct game works better on European chicks. Suck my dick Maya. Lol.

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Maya on April 11, 2012 at 11:16 am

No wonder you’re single …

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Lara on April 10, 2012 at 3:48 pm

I thought being pretty was the key to being good in bed.

[heartiste: it’s necessary but not sufficient. although i


would argue the necessary part is 90% of it. however, when you
have a lot of experience with hot babes, you tend to demand more
in terms of bedroom… flexibility.]

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Anon on April 10, 2012 at 5:14 pm

I don’t require a lot.


A half decent blowjob, an ability to assume a correct doggy
position (lower da fuckin back), and an ability to ride the dick up
and down and not simply back and forth (apparently good for the clit but it
hurts my f’ing pubic bone). That’s all it takes for a woman to be labeled
good in bed.

The rest is up to me. I even assume the responsibility for her “mood” and
her level of sexual abandon. Most women can become savages if they are
correctly turned on.

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JonBrom on April 9, 2012 at 5:20 pm

Any compliment given to you by a gal should be answered thusly:

“Oh, you’re just saying that because it’s true!”

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V on April 10, 2012 at 1:58 pm

“I love your hat [or w/e]”


“You’re only saying that because I’M wearing it.”

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askjoe on April 10, 2012 at 2:47 pm

or I say, the secret is being really good looking.

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V on April 12, 2012 at 3:15 pm

Nice. You could use “You’re only saying that because I’M wearing
it,” and then follow up with “the secret is being really good
looking.” Once you get started, it’s nice to be able to keep it
going.

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Anonymous2 on April 9, 2012 at 5:30 pm

“Women love a man who is better than them, but they will accept as a
substitute a man who simply thinks he is better than them.”

Backwards! Women love a man who thinks is better than they, but will settle for a
man who actually is!

[heartiste: you may have a point there.]

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Anonymous on April 9, 2012 at 10:27 pm

No, I disagree. Women do choose those who are better than them,
but at certani criteria. “Better than her” doesn’t mean being able to
work a job.

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GFP on April 9, 2012 at 5:31 pm

These are all great, but I think mostly girls you hardly know yet. If you
are on a date (where girls expect you to answer some biographical
questions), the mildness of these responses will sometimes get an eye
roll instead of the “he’s clever” smirk that you want. This is not to say that you
should actually answer the question, but flirting is more common on a date, so
you need to be even more shocking to what she expected.

For example, instead of “Hard drug use”, I sometimes say “Hookers and blow.”

GIRL: Hey! What have you been up to lately?


YOU: Hookers and blow

GIRL: What are your plans for later?


YOU: Hookers and blow

GIRL: What do you like to do for fun?


YOU: Hookers and blow

Not sure this exact one would work for everyone. I am a pretty laid back guy, so it
seems absurd and shocking to anyone that has known me for longer than 5
minutes.

[heartiste: yes, you should be more hardcore — aka assholish — with girls
you are dating and with younger girls. for girls you just met, or in venues
where expressive flirting would be out of place, a toned down version is
better.]

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James on April 9, 2012 at 7:08 pm

Too many words. I’m a big fan of the silent approach: whenever she
says anything just whip out your cock.

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Lara on April 10, 2012 at 3:47 pm

That will not work unless she is desperate. We like wit and charm.

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itsme on April 10, 2012 at 4:52 pm

We like wit and charm

and dominance and power. and not necessarily in that order.

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(r)Evoluzione on April 9, 2012 at 5:34 pm

Over a long period of time, with this method, one can create a lot of
sexual tension with women in your social circle, or, more dangerously, in
your workplace.

This sloooow burn is fantastic long game. Also, doing it to your girl’s friends in
your girl’s presence is a good way to initiate threesomes.

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Big T on April 9, 2012 at 5:43 pm

My fav’s

“what do you do for a living? ”


I do a bit of this and that. (kills it every tine)

“my names sarah”


oh great not another sarah

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Flahute on April 9, 2012 at 5:49 pm

GIRL: “How are you?”


Irresistible.

Stealing that one.


It’s usually a dramatic “Hi! how ARE you?”

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Lara on April 9, 2012 at 5:50 pm

I once had a man tell me I needed to move my car by saying, “You’re


cute, but you’re still in the way.”

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Rex on April 9, 2012 at 7:59 pm

Moral: Everyone tells some white lies once and a while.

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Anon on April 9, 2012 at 11:20 pm

And how did that make you feel?

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Lara on April 10, 2012 at 3:46 pm

Good. I like to be called cute.

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YaReally on April 9, 2012 at 11:21 pm

On really hot girls who do stupid shit (butt in line, be loud and
obnoxious, be rude to a friend, etc) I’ve said “just because you’re hot
doesn’t mean you get to be a bitch.”

Only builds attraction on really hot girls. Pisses off average and below girls. …a
lot lol

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Maya on April 10, 2012 at 11:23 am

Telling a girl that she’s hot doesn’t work, sorry …

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itsme on April 10, 2012 at 4:53 pm

it doesn’t work when she knows it’s not true.

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Maya on April 11, 2012 at 11:14 am

You’re right. But it doesn’t work very well even when she knows
she’s shot.

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itsme on April 11, 2012 at 11:37 am


wrong. it works very well when the girl actually IS hot, but it
needs to be delivered in just the right way. ‘just because you’re
hot doesn’t mean you get to be a bitch’ is a nuclear neg.

but please, don’t let our real experiences with women keep you from
dispensing your brown nuggets of dating advice maya.

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Anonymous on April 16, 2012 at 1:23 am

Or you could say: “I see you flunked out of charm school”.

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DarkByke on April 9, 2012 at 5:51 pm

Flipping the logical switch off is quite hard to do.

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(r)Evoluzione on April 9, 2012 at 6:03 pm

I thought so too. I was the spergy kid in the class who nearly aced
the SAT, but couldn’t get sarcasm. I was always the straight man,
always taking things literally.

But a little practice, and I got good at not only identifying the quick-witted
sarcasm, but dishing it out. Sometimes the more subtle the better.

A relative who hadn’t seen me in years quipped, “Wow, when did you become
charming?” upon seeing me in action. As a natural introvert, it wasn’t
particularly quick, but it’s been one of the more rewarding pursuits of my life.

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YaReally on April 9, 2012 at 11:23 pm

Props dude. A lot of people think it’s something that can’t be


learned. It takes work but if it’s important to you it can be done.
Glad you proved those people wrong.

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Mexican Pete on April 10, 2012 at 7:58 am

“As a natural introvert, it wasn’t particularly quick, but it’s been


one of the more rewarding pursuits of my life.”

That’s a very important point that most folks who take up Game fail to
realise: Patience is required, and tons of practice.

In effect, you’re rebuilding 20-, 30-, 40+ years of accumulated


personality.

Roosh and Mystery, to their credit, stress this in their books. . However,
the folks who get suckered into boot-camps aren’t told this

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YaReally on April 10, 2012 at 7:48 pm

ya that’s the biggest problem with the industry. Even when


instructors stress that it’ll take a while people hit up a bootcamp
thinking 3 days of new thinking will unwire 20+ years of old
thinking.

Early on when PUA stuff was still pretty knew we all kind of understood
that this was a years-long progress. Some guys wouldn’t even get laid for
the first year or two, but they’d have a bunch of little victories (handling a
social situation that would’ve stumped them before, keeping a hot girl’s
attention for a couple hours, getting phone numbers, making new friends,
etc.) and would be happy as fuck with that and just trusted that over time
they would internalize this stuff and their lives would improve.

I started out as a super shy introvert myself. It took a ton of work to get
to where I am now so I have a lot of respect for anyone who sticks to it
like this guy. Most people’s excuses for why game doesn’t work “for them”
or why they can’t do what we’ve done is just complete bullshit victim
mentality.

“You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake.” and all that.

[heartiste: i agree, a lot of guys have unreasonable expectations


about game. if you aren’t a natural extrovert it’s gonna be much
harder to acquire game skills and apply them successfully. it’s like
a guy who has no musical talent thinking he can pick up a guitar
and just start shredding in a week. won’t happen. but if he
practices every day for a year, he’ll be able to play decently
enough to impress chicks.]

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Greg Eliot on April 9, 2012 at 6:05 pm

“So, what’s your type?”

“A busty blonde who runs a liquor store… but in a pinch, I’ll take any two
out of three.”

And then pinch her, regardless.

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zaee on April 9, 2012 at 6:30 pm

I think that is basically how I talk to women most of the time, especially
my flatmates. Playful fake arguments are great too.

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Guardial on April 9, 2012 at 7:04 pm

“In accordance with the prophecy” is a good response to idle chit-chat.


You’re supposed to add it to the end of any fortune cookie fortunes, but it
can add romance to an otherwise banal conversation.

“You’re late.” “In accordance with the prophecy.”


“Nice weather.” “In accordance with the prophecy.”
“More overtime.” “In accordance with the prophecy.”

And XKCD.com recommends So, it has come to this.

Protip: If you’re not sure what to say, try “So it has come to this” – It creates
instant dramatic tension and is a valid observation in literally any situation.

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Dan Fletcher on April 9, 2012 at 11:39 pm

No.

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Ciox on April 10, 2012 at 11:12 am

No indeed.

[heartiste: i’d have to third this no. while the lines are kind
of funny, they are the type of humor that appeals to men but not at
all to women.]

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itsme on April 10, 2012 at 3:02 pm


agreed. ‘in accordance with the prophecy’ might work on a geeky
gamer grrrl, but not on a normal girl.

‘so, it has come to this’ – sounds like something a mildly butthurt


james bond villain would say.

these lines aren’t very good because they’re not flirty. there are no sexual
undertones, no cocky/funniness, no nothing.

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askjoe on April 10, 2012 at 5:32 pm

damn, that’s like something a d&d nerd on snl would say. That’s
very ren faire. You’d be better off with “so it begins”

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Student on April 10, 2012 at 7:30 pm

this is straight up DarkTriumvir game.

http://darktriumvirate.wordpress.com/

heh

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Matador on April 9, 2012 at 7:16 pm

This stuff is good but I’m useless at remembering canned material, so I


won’t even try.

It’s all about the attitude, and being in “The Zone”


(https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2008/01/13/best-feeling-in-the-world/).
Sometimes, flirts and teases and stuff like that can come out naturally, even
though I don’t consider myself particularly witty in a neutral state.

But I’ll keep in mind the “thanks” reply about the weather. lolz
And that one in the elevator too…
… Shit, all of them are worth remembering bro.

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Anonymous on April 10, 2012 at 3:56 am

Outside of the US, many comments like “nice weather” can be


answered along the lines of “Thanks, I put a call into Obama and he
ordered the Air Force to seed the clouds” or whatever.

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V on April 9, 2012 at 7:31 pm

“Training yourself to parry female small talk with unexpected flirtatious


jousts is, at the least, great for honing your game, even when it doesn’t
lead to a bang.”

Even when it doesn’t lead to a bang! BINGO. This is called practice. A great way to
develop your game if you are just starting out is to make your goal simply to
practice instead of hoping to get laid every time. This creates an outcome
independent mindset in which every single positive reaction is a success, rather
than an eventual failure if it doesn’t get you laid. Each success cumulatively builds
confidence.

This is what flirty bartenders or waitresses are perfect for. Practice. They will often
flirt even if they are not interested, especially if you make it fun. Serious answers
to questions are ‘boring’. Unexpected, unpredictable, funny answers are fun. Think
of the opposite to the automatic answer to their questions and deliver it with a
roguish grin.

“How was your dinner?”


“Terrible, I’m never coming back to this place.”
“Would you like me to bring you your check?”
“No thanks, you can keep it.”

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Shawn on April 9, 2012 at 7:47 pm

Good flirt guide: http://www.sirc.org/publik/flirt.html

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Anon on April 9, 2012 at 11:17 pm

That’s a guide for complete beta aspies who grew up alone in a


jungle.

Concrete flirting examples would be more helpful for the average reader.

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Serenety on April 9, 2012 at 7:47 pm

Her – where are you going/what are you doing

Me – (to do) man stuff – repeat as necessary


Me – taking care of business – or just tcb as they start to hear it more

my newish alternate

Me – managing my portfolio

My other alternate is to just refer to them by their surname or nationality in


conversation/text/email as in

hey jones/smith/new zealand/england etc

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Anonymous on April 10, 2012 at 4:05 am

It gets their hamsters spinning when they see in your phone that
you’ve called them something other than their name

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(r)Evoluzione on April 10, 2012 at 1:57 pm

“Where are you going?”

My dad always used to say “To see a man about a horse.” I loved that
as a kid. If an 8 year old digs it, hamsters will eat it up.

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hesaidhe on April 10, 2012 at 4:03 pm

My dad would say “to drop the kiddies at the pool” whether or not
he was on his way to the bathroom. His whereabouts were none
of our business – but ours were his.

@Anonymous/Serenety: So true about using a name other than a first


name via text or emails. I have tread a few 360s around this ;]

It can work on a man that a woman wants to keep interested as well. I


throw “Sir” in front of a man’s name or whatever nickname has evolved
from our interaction as a display of playful respect for his time.

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Serenety on April 10, 2012 at 7:42 pm

Another alternate I use from time to time as the mood strikes

throw in “young” before their name/surname/nickname no matter


how old they are
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dave on April 9, 2012 at 8:11 pm

Individual conversational examples like these aren’t just useful for their
illustration of this broader principle of flirting. The individual examples
like these are useful for putting into an open source spaced repetition
software (SRS) program like Anki:

http://ankisrs.net/

If you’re not familiar with the spacing effect and the practice of spaced repetition
that takes advantage of it, you can check out this article:

http://www.gwern.net/Spaced%20repetition

I’ll give a ridiculously short summary. If it sounds too good to be true…then check
out the article. Essentially, humans forget in a remarkably predictable fashion, and
we have learned how to counteract our natural propensity to forget with 90-95%
accuracy over the long-term.

An SRS like Anki is essentially a digital flashcard program on steroids. It tracks


each individual card using scientifically proven algorithms. You review things more
often earlier on, and then less often later after the memories have been
strengthened. (e.g. you would review a card the day you put it in, the next day, a
few days later, a week or two later, then a month later, then several months later,
and so on.) It is incredibly efficient as far as time is concerned, and, as long as
you do your daily reviews, you will have 90-95% recall accuracy for whatever you
put into your deck.

To the broader point we are getting. With an SRS deck, you could essentially
create prosthetic alpha/charisma. You could make literally hundreds or thousands
of cards with a girl’s banal statement on the front side, and the flirty response on
the other side.

Here’s a card I made from Mad Men:

Random Dude who could be courting Don’s mistress: what do you do for a living?

Don Draper: I blow up bridges.

You could also make cards to quiz yourself on important attitudes, logistical
techniques, or anything else seduction related. If you can’t see yourself saying
these lines in real-life situation, then simply repeating them in your SRS program
will increase the likelihood of you considering them a viable option in day-to-day
contexts.

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dave on April 9, 2012 at 8:18 pm

Another relevant card I made from Mad Men for those who are
interested.

Front: what do women want?

Back: for you to know better than to ask (alternate: any excuse to get closer)

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Harland on April 9, 2012 at 10:40 pm

So, make a shared deck already.

Anki is only useful for rote memorization. I use it daily for Chinese.
I’m not sure how useful it is for PUA.

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dave on April 10, 2012 at 8:51 am

Heartiste often talks about those with encyclopedic knowledge of


“game concepts.” This is merely a practical and accessible way of
achieving that.

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Ouch on April 9, 2012 at 11:59 pm

thanks for the anki tip Dave

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HT on April 10, 2012 at 5:18 am

I’ve used Anki but only for languages.. I question how effective this
would really be, but you should definitely share your deck!!

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dave on April 15, 2012 at 1:13 pm

If you just drop responses/items into your SRS deck and review
them normally, there is a chance that a significant portion of your
responses/items won’t live to see the light of day due to their
rapid maturing in Anki.

My solution is to purposely fail such cards on a daily basis for a week or


several after adding them. This increases the likelihood that I’ll try it for
real at least once. If you don’t try it at least once in a real situation and
the card matures…you might never try it. If you try it at least once
though…it becomes part of your real-time interaction arsenal.

After the purposely failing cards phase you can let it mature, but then
don’t be afraid to randomly fail them again once in a while if you want to
increase your likelihood of using them.

Another option is to have all such cards tagged, and then you can use the
cram function and run through the list before or even at a party on a
phone or ipod. Active production of such flashcards, I have found,
sometimes puts me in a chatty mood.

I ambitiously wanted to go through and create an index of Heartiste’s


archive of posts in SRS form…but I’m lazy and don’t have the time.
Someone should totally do it and email the list of SRS items to him
though…it would be an interesting way for him to monetize his content.

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Antifeminist One on April 9, 2012 at 8:31 pm

O/T: Five minutes of alpha is worth how much?

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/53879608-78/police-inmate-south-
woman.html.csp

One woman was stabbed in the neck late Sunday at a South Salt Lake apartment
complex after police allege she and another woman decided to fight over which of
them should date a jail inmate.

Stay classy, ladies.

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P Ray on April 11, 2012 at 12:40 pm

Even better
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1726827/posts
23 girls brawl over handsome boy
Ananova ^ | October 27, 2006 | Staff

Posted on 10/27/2006 11:22:17 PM by MadIvan

Police were called in Bulg


aria after a mass fight broke out between 23 teenage girls over a handsome
male student.

The girls, aged between 15 and 18, used brass knuckles, chains and beer
bottles to fight over the lad whose name was not revealed.

The girls, from the Bulgarian capital Sofia, agreed to fight it out and skipped
school to meet up in a local playground in the Gorublyane district of the city.
Several girls suffered minor injuries and dozens of passers-by reportedly
witnessed the incident.

But the alarm wasn’t raised until after the fight when a father of one of the
injured girls called the police.

(The comments are funny too):

I wonder what the lad’s reaction was. Also, the winner, likely to be scarred and
bruised, probably wasn’t particularly fetching afterwards.

Regards, Ivan

Oh yeah, any woman willing to use brass knuckles, chains, and broken bottles
sounds like a winner even before the fight.

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Antifeminist One on April 11, 2012 at 8:02 pm

.. I’m lost for words. Wow.

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Bigfoot on April 9, 2012 at 9:22 pm

My main weakness is still flirting, I’m able to do it sometimes but its off
and on.

Perhaps some comedy books would be great for me?

Any suggestions on books that will help people develop flirting plus the ability to
be funny.

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James on April 9, 2012 at 11:18 pm

Chat with people online as practice. Helped me a lot.

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Milton on April 9, 2012 at 9:52 pm

“I’ll see more of you later!”

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anon on April 10, 2012 at 1:15 am

I like these, and they seem fun to deliver as well.

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LionSoul on April 10, 2012 at 1:17 am

Grade A advice.

I use it in my LTRs during certain situations to keep things mellow and


lighthearted–sometimes more than that if I’m in the mood.

Non-chalant flirting helps maintain a cool and collected leadership role.

Pranks are golden, as well. Nothing beats putting her blackberry in a ziplock bag
and then freezing it over night (thank YouTube for that idea).

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ld on April 10, 2012 at 12:27 pm

As ever heart is the dad/older brother I never had.cheers!


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King A (Matthew King) on April 10, 2012 at 2:10 am

When is the new offshore website reboot coming out? Southern Poverty
Law Center is hot on your case. (They don’t publicly target the really bad
sites for fear of promoting them.) Reward your loyal readership.

Oh, and write the book already. You can self-publish on Kindle and charge a
premium. Give Fifty Shades of Gey a run for its money. If E.L. James could mass-
moisten the underserved (gigantic) niche of dried-out fishwives too embarrassed
to face their nature with a word-of-mouth hanky-spanky potboiler, just think of
the untapped reserves of eager betas still too timid to slap down How To Get Laid
on the bookstore counter with the cute check-out clerk. E-books are the ultimate
brown paper wrapping.

Leverage your brand already. Put some testicular fortitude behind your cause and
promote it aggressively. You need a business manager. Or an agent. Five years
now? The glow doesn’t last forever. Capitalize, capitalist.

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(r)Evoluzione on April 10, 2012 at 1:55 pm

For once I agree with King A, mostly. This blog has legs & serious
momentum. Keep it rolling, and it could go for decades. And yeah,
some monetization never hurts.

Although I’m not sure the world is ready for something bigger, better, badder
than existing game books. It would be NYT best seller, invite media frenzy,
white hot lights of publicity, media scrutiny, etc. Sometimes relative anonymity
is beyond financial measure.

I suspect that the wealthier patrons of this site already reward the host with
gifts. I plan to at some point when my business goes positive.

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King A (Matthew King) on April 11, 2012 at 11:37 am

The patronage is only incidental. “Revoluzione” have to be funded,


but ideas are the true fuel of the movement. Heartiste is the best
articulator you have, as long as he doesn’t stray too much into his
pseudoscientific hobbyhorses and keeps his poetic focus on
observation/experience.

At some point you have to be ready for the scrutiny, and to take your
lumps. Derbyshire is an excellent example of accidental courage and bad
timing. A little bit of forethought, preparation, and caution can gird you for
the “white hot lights.” Derbyshire stumbled into his moment because he
has always been too arrogant to be disciplined or deliberate. Our webhost
here has been the opposite: circumspect and purposeful. He just needs to
kick his goals up to the next level. Half a decade in one paradigm is too
long, particularly in the fleeting internet culture.

Truth is dynamite. You can blast mountains with it to clear a path, you can
annihilate enemies in your way … or you can blow yourself to kingdom
come if you are sloppy like “The Derb.” What a careless fool! Truthtelling is
at least as much about preparing one’s audience to hear as it is being
blunt.

You can applaud the truth of what Derbyshire said while castigating his
premature recklessness for nearly suffocating the movement in the cradle
with the “media frenzy [and] scrutiny” you mention. Be smart, fools!
You’ve been entrusted with caretaking the truth, which has many enemies.
Whether he did it strategically or earnestly, Lowry was absolutely right to
swiftly purge. He did us all lovers of truth (philalethists) a favor.

Though it may be too late. Look at how the enemy is spinning it:

Do you think you’re more racist than Rich Lowry, or the other
NR writers? I found your honesty in the Taki’s Magazine article
almost refreshing—these are the same concepts that plenty of
NR articles tiptoe around, you just said it outright.
And Derbyshire colludes with the spin out of pique (or maybe it’s the
chemo). He agrees we on the right are secretly racist, all but selling us out
on the one cultural crime that keeps us marginalized in the ghetto, rather
than taken seriously. By the left’s standards, we are racist. But we will
never properly neutralize their Orwellian persecutions by indirectly
acknowledging their standards to make ourselves feel better, as that
miscegenating, limey atheist math-dork just did. Because he was caught
off guard.

So keep your guard, and tell the truth wisely. Or you’ll be bumfuzzled and
bemused by their carrot-and-stick methods when you find yourselves in
their interrogation room: You are evil, but we will punish you less if you
tactically agree with the characterization of your former brethren’s evil.
They will find your treachery “almost refreshing.”

Truthtelling has become “racist” (the modern synonym of evil) because we


are sloppy cowards about our dissemination of it. You don’t ask someone
who has lived at night all his life to stare directly into a sunrise.

Matt

[heartiste: derb should have replied “false premise. not racism.


realism.” frame to his advantage.]

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attractionreaction on April 12, 2012 at 2:12 pm

Unamusement Park nailed it: “Is it true?”

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P Ray on April 11, 2012 at 12:44 pm

E.L.James is a woman.
http://starcasm.net/archives/150315

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Anonymous on April 10, 2012 at 3:52 am

In response to “what?” spoken with the feigned indignation they love so


much, I’ll often respond, “I was just saying how nice you look today.”
Delivered with a smirk of course.

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walawala on April 10, 2012 at 4:22 am

Whenever I’m in a buffet line and some cutie is in front of me….this


works to get things started:

Me: save some for me…

Her: What? Looks at her plate….laughs…


xxxx

If a girl is short and says “Wow, you’re tall”

Me: Yah, what happened to you? Your parents didnt’ feed you?

Her: Nooooooooooo my parents fed me!

Me; Clearly not enough….

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Lara on April 10, 2012 at 7:44 pm

I like the buffet line quip, that’s good.

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YaReally on April 10, 2012 at 5:17 am

Totally unrelated to this post:

Fight on NYC 6 Train

Playback isn't supported on this device.

0:00 / 1:04

Chip-eating man is my vote for alpha of the month! lol

That’s frame control in action. If your frame (“nah, no more physical fighting
today guys”) is stronger than the frame of the people around you (“we’re crazy
and ninja kicking each other hiya!!!!”), other people fall into your frame. He
doesn’t even stare them down or tell them to knock it off he’s just like “nahhhh…
chomp chomp chomp”. He would’ve gotten a different reaction if he jumped in like
a superhero fists raised ready to beat someone up staring them down and
swearing at them. But it’s like it’s so completely not in his reality that the kicking
contest could continue or escalate that he doesn’t even bother stopping eating his
chips.

A lot of people would escalate this situation into something serious if they got
involved (even by accident). This is part of why the guys who are like “my MMA
buddy would kill you with his BJJ move in 2 seconds flat if you dared say THAT to
him or his girl!!!!!!11111” should get out and put themselves in these situations
more if they want to have an opinion on what would/wouldn’t work in a tricky
situation.

I’ve actually used eating and body position to avoid/de-escalate volatile situations
myself lol (eating a hot dog or pizza after the bar at last call when it’s time for all
the Affliction douches who didn’t get laid to start fights)

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Rex on April 10, 2012 at 2:52 pm

Looked scared to me. Like he was avoiding eye contact. Kept his head
down and was looking at the floor, not up.

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YaReally on April 10, 2012 at 3:07 pm

When you make eye contact with someone you start interaction
with them. An interaction would lead to escalation. Their hostility
would transfer onto him and while he could probably kick their
asses he’a not trying to get into the shit he’s just calming it down.

He’s essentially “invisible” as a person to the two people fighting, it’s like a
wall or pillar just came between them, cutting their space enough to snap
them out of retard mode.

The Dog Whisperer does this with aggressive dogs a lot, he’ll enter their
territory and turn his back to them and not make eye contact and just
“claim the space” with his body language, cutting the dog off with his
body. All very calm and assertive (“nah, that’s not happening”) but
dominant. If he approached staring the dog down the dog would interpret
it as a threat and he’d trigger an attack.

The guy IS watching in his peripheral for things to escalate, when he looks
down at his chips you can tell he’s keeping an eye on things just incase.

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chi-town on April 10, 2012 at 4:21 pm

He was looking at his chips because they were more important.


Nobility does not seek eye contact with the wretch. Eye contact is
necessary when there is a power struggle. He did not look scared
at all.

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Anon on April 10, 2012 at 5:51 pm

What are you, an aspie or something?

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Rus on April 10, 2012 at 6:10 am

Some of those work, others sound pretty stupid. Different strokes etc I
guess.

As to why more men are not natural flirts, I suspect it has to do with the rather
more violent world we used to live in. When all that stands between you and
savage, violent men is another, bigger, man, then all you really need to get chicks
is to be stronger than the next guy. Flirting optional.

The society we have created in recent centuries pretty much goes against all our
natural instincts. In time people will adapt, unless the barbarians manage to scale
the walls before that, but that doesn’t help us now.

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BD on April 10, 2012 at 7:15 am

Hey, this article ties in nicely to this discussion:


http://hbr.org/2011/12/your-use-of-pronouns-reveals-your-
personality/ar/1?cm_sp=most_widget-_-hbr_articles-_-
Your+Use+of+Pronouns+Reveals+Your+Personality

The money quote:


“““““““““““““““““
Here’s a simple, pronoun-heavy sentence: I don’t think I buy it.

Ooh. You just revealed something about yourself in that statement. Why did you
say “I don’t think I buy it” instead of “I don’t buy it” or even “That’s ridiculous”?
Pronouns tell us where people focus their attention. If someone uses the pronoun
“I,” it’s a sign of self-focus. Say someone asks “What’s the weather outside?” You
could answer “It’s hot” or “I think it’s hot.” The “I think” may seem insignificant,
but it’s quite meaningful. It shows you’re more focused on yourself. Depressed
people use the word “I” much more often than emotionally stable people. People
who are lower in status use “I” much more frequently.
““““““““““““““““““
Summary: Hot girls talking to each other always say, “I this, I that.” Listen to how
hot chicks talk to each other, always saying “I think” in response to their friends
chit chat about, “I think this or that.” This offers a great opportunity to go up to a
group of hot chicks and explain how silly and self centered they are. Can’t wait to
try it.

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Anonymous on April 10, 2012 at 10:43 am

Nice tie/shirt/etc

“it’s the body”

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geo on April 10, 2012 at 11:04 am

One of my favorites when positioned at a crowded bar is to create a slight


opening for a girl who is trying to move in to get the bartender’s
attention. Let her place her order then say: “Hey, my name is X and I’ll be hitting
on you while you wait for your drink”. A big soft girl smile almost always ensues.
Proceed with good-natured bullshit and as she leaves with her drinks tell her to
have a nice life, knowing she’ll be telling her friends about you in a few seconds.
Pull this off a few more times and later on, when she and her friends are more
tipsy, opportunities abound.

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Student on April 10, 2012 at 7:48 pm

““Hey, my name is X and I’ll be hitting on you while you wait for your
drink” Proceed with good-natured bullshit”

—————-> “she leaves with her drinks”

[^hint]

“tell her to have a nice life,”

this is the trademark of the post-break up beta

“knowing she’ll be telling her friends about you in a few seconds.”

doubtful.

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Anonymous on April 10, 2012 at 11:35 am

“Pseudoscience is now defined as real science which gives equalists,


feminists and PC police the vapors.”

You can’t take over the world if you allow real science to be discussed publicly.

Because if you allowed the Christian masses to know what real science says, no
Politically Correct myths could ever gain traction

Thus:

1. Fake science is allowed and sanctioned through grants.

2. Real science is hushed up. Best case scenario: No one will even research
certain areas of human behavior anymore because it is too dangerous to their
career.

3. People who dare to discuss real science in public will have their careers
destroyed.

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P Ray on April 11, 2012 at 12:33 pm

Half the courage is in the experiments, the other half is in publishing


the findings (Galileo, paraphrased)

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chris on April 10, 2012 at 11:39 am

http://www.bakadesuyo.com/what-kind-of-men-are-supermodels-
interested-i

Studies show the most attractive women have the highest standards for men in
most every category surveyed — except intelligence.

http://www.bakadesuyo.com/how-long-does-it-take-to-decide-if-a-person-i

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P Ray on April 11, 2012 at 12:32 pm

That’s cause the intelligent men might be able to lie convincingly to


them.
Or be clever enough to recognise that “most attractive woman” is a
transitory title, and past a certain effort there will be diminishing returns.

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chi-town on April 10, 2012 at 11:40 am

It reminds me so much of the first ape that picked up a stick. Hey, I could
use this thing to…and by that I mean a geek that puts wit to to good use.

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Gator on April 10, 2012 at 12:21 pm

Women are just wired for spontaneity. To their right brained female
nature, interacting with shit like this is like the joy men get from solving
complex equations or rationally working out the problems of civilization.

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Gator on April 10, 2012 at 12:25 pm

By the way, weren’t you the one that tweeted the “darker skin correlated
to higher testosterone” article? Why would Wussier populations be
subject to a more skewed sex ratio?

The actual explanation for superior minority game is that women only have sex
when they want to in those societies, instead of when they need to, as in a society
where they can’t provide for themselves.

[heartiste: present-day wussy populations (hi swedes!) suffered male


bottlenecks in ancestral times due to hunting mortality, resulting in a
skewed sex ratio that favored men. at least, that’s the theory i’ve read. as
for why these long-ago hunting peoples have become so wussy today,
well, it’s likely civilization, religion and enforced monogamy have had a
domesticating effect.]

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Anon on April 10, 2012 at 1:34 pm

“I consider the absence of widely distributed flirting skills, particularly


among northern europeans and asians, to be evidence that for much
of mankind’s ancestral past the sex ratio was skewed enough in the
typical man’s favor”

It could also be due to their women’s low testosterone levels.

Low female testosterone = low female promiscuity = low payoff to male


flirting skills.

Low female promiscuity = less females spreading their legs for alpha seed =
less alpha babies = less alpha society = wusses.

However, wuss societies all have a higher standard of living for males &
females. Hello Japan! The problem comes when wuss societies get lazy &
import folks to do their work. Hello Sweden!

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chi-town on April 10, 2012 at 3:22 pm

I think its deeper than that. The further north you go , the more the
environment is the enemy where cooperation is necessary. Thus once
someone is accepted ,they are trusted. Have a look at Scottish
Highlander hospitality customs which could result in the protection of even
sworn enemy. There is certainly a large Nordic contribution to that stock. Yes
they were ferocious to outsiders but once the immune system is deactivated
its easily infiltrated. So now that the Nordic races accept all in the clan, they
are slow to see hostile elements.

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Gator on April 11, 2012 at 10:40 am

That’s all true, but it doesn’t work as an explanation for poor


contemporary flirting skills – it didn’t happen significantly more than
in areas where men are raised with game. On the contrary, the sex
ratio of the latter group was probably skewed until fuckin’ 1950, so they never
would have had to work for it, by that logic.

Game is a cultural response to powerlessness. That’s why women and children


have it in our culture and men give it up when they no longer have to charm
resources out of anyone.

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Ian Ironwood on April 10, 2012 at 12:25 pm

A few of mine:

G: “You have such beautiful eyes!”


It’s the Ironwood family curse. They only attract crazy women.

G: “That’s a really good idea!”


Only kind I have.

G: “You know, you’re right!”


I’m always right. I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.

G: “How are you feeling?”


I don’t know. You’d better feel me.

G: “So, do you live around here?”


Only when the Malibu mansion is being renovated.

G: “So, what do you do?”


I dampen the panties of all the pretty women I meet.
G: “My panties aren’t wet!”
(alt 1) I’m sorry, I’ll have to check that myself…
(alt 2) You just met me. Give it a moment (look at watch) . . . and . . . now!
(alt 3) I did say pretty women…
(alt 4) You aren’t wearing panties.

G: “I’d never date a man who wasn’t a feminist!”


(look her up and down) That explains quite a lot, actually . . .

G: “I just want to meet a nice guy…”


No, you don’t. Luckily, you haven’t.

G: “You’re terrible!”
Actually, I’m extremely good. But I have really high standards, so you might not
know the difference.

G: “Why do guys have to be like that?”


Because it’s the only way to get girls like you to fuck us.

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(r)Evoluzione on April 10, 2012 at 1:24 pm

Your Jedi skills are strong, Ironwood. These are gold. They require
total confidence and congruence, and develop the same.

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P Ray on April 11, 2012 at 12:30 pm

G: “No woman will like you with your attitude!”


I don’t need women like you to like me.

G: “I’ll tell all my friends that you made me mad”


More people need to know I’m a miracle worker.

G: “You need to treat me as more than a human being”


Ritual sacrifice of goats on campus is a felony

G: “Best friends agree on EVERYTHING”


Thank goodness I’m not your best friend.

G: “Let’s just be friends”


Ahahahahahaha… walks off.

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Anonymous on April 10, 2012 at 1:16 pm


this blog once had tons of raw energy. now it reads more like
cosmopolitan. writing is always good; thoughts are clear as ever…only
passion is missing. i take it the editor is in a good place in life. this blog is
no longer an outlet, it’s a job now.

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Maya on April 10, 2012 at 1:26 pm

“… why are smart women more promiscuous than smart men?”

Smart men are more promiscuous than smart women … Smart women
are not promiscuous. But this also depends on how you define ‘smart’.

[heartiste: you are wrong. you need to acquaint yourself with the latest
studies. smart women are not only more promsicuous than smart men,
they hold monogamy in less esteem than do dumb women.]

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Maya on April 10, 2012 at 1:30 pm

Post links to those latest studies.

[heartiste: what’s the magic word bitch?]

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Maya on April 10, 2012 at 1:34 pm

Wouldn’t you do that for me?

[heartiste: non sequitur. i’ll ask again:


what’s the magic word bitch?]

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Maya on April 10, 2012 at 1:47 pm

Do you want something in return?

[heartiste: another non sequitur from our resident bitch


troll. to clarify for the studio audience following along: you
demanded links to studies. i replied: what’s the magic word bitch?
you have yet to answer my question.
so.
are you gonna answer my question?
or are you gonna continue cunting around like an evasive little
shit?]

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Maya on April 10, 2012 at 1:53 pm

I will answer your question.

[heartiste: let’s put your honesty to the test then, shall


we? one more time:

what’s the magic word bitch?]

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Maya on April 10, 2012 at 2:04 pm

I love you.

[heartiste: that is not the magic word that matters in this


context. try again.]

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Maya on April 10, 2012 at 2:19 pm

Please? p.s. You are sure that you don’t want anything in
return?
[heartiste: that’s the magic word.

“The analyses of the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent


Health (Study 1) and the General Social Surveys (Study 2) show
that adolescent and adult intelligence significantly increases adult
liberalism, atheism, and men’s (but not women’s) value on sexual
exclusivity.”

http://spq.sagepub.com/content/early/2010/02/16/019027251036

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Maya on April 10, 2012 at 2:52 pm

Thanks! But this is only abstract … I don’t know … I thought


women in general value sexual exclusivity very highly. Much
higher than men. We don’t need sexual variety, we just need one
super hot alpha male. I can’t comprehend why smart women would want
to have more than one partner … I’m sure there’s something wrong with
this study but since I can’t read it I’m not able to comment. Did you read
the whole thing or you let this abstract convince you that smart women
are more slutty?! So I was right yesterday when I was saying that dumb
women might be more attractive? (If they are less slutty …)

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Anon on April 10, 2012 at 1:36 pm

Other than intelligence, dumb women are superior in every way to


smart women.

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Anonymous on April 10, 2012 at 3:18 pm

If Derbyshire is wrong……… then why, say, do, oh American Jews seem to


observe all his commandments in their own personal lives?

Go tell upper class Jews to let their teenage children mingle in crowds of blacks
and see the response you get.

As to National Review, Rich Lowry sold his soul to the paymasters a long time ago.
He is another clown WASP with no backbone who let his country go to shit

Why did William Buckley, creator of National Review, drink himself to death? The
founder of modern conservatism knew the score.

That his own kind had been beaten by a tribe more ruthless, cunning and oh so
congenially vicious

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anon on April 10, 2012 at 3:33 pm

I am convinced that more intelligent males are more monogamously-


inclined than less intelligent males. I’m not convinced that smarter
women are more promiscuous than dumber women. Could it be that the
self reports of the sexual history of smarter women are more accurate than the
self reports of dumber women? Don’t dumber females “lie” by default when asked
to quantify things like partner count, etc. because they lack the capacity to
quantify as precisely? They have a “shifting” (deceptive) definition of what counts
and what doesn’t. I doubt very much smarter women have this problem and more
accurately report.

[heartiste: in my personal experience — admittedly not scientifically


robust but large enough in sample size to draw some conclusions — smart
chicks are promiscuous outside of serious relationships, and even within
LTRs they will cheat once in a while. dumb chicks value monogamy more
but are more impulsive and will do stupid things that ruin LTRs for them.
in contrast, smart chicks tend to be able to cheat without killing their
LTRs. smart chicks are also WAY kinkier in bed than dumb chicks. this is
no contest. smart chicks love getting off, dumb chicks love the feeling of
love. related, smart chicks are more likely to have sex toys.
as for men, well… strictly conjecture based on second hand info, but i do
think smart men are more interested in monogamy and LTRs than are
dumb men. however, the greatest players and seducers are typically very
smart men.]

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itsme on April 10, 2012 at 4:56 pm

smarter chicks have smarter hamsters. and they put ’em to good use.

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P Ray on April 11, 2012 at 12:24 pm

They also shatter when they discover they’ve been played by a


“lesser” man.
The mental scars of that adventure, go real deep and last real
long.

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Tmason on April 10, 2012 at 4:11 pm

RE: @GmacGame “curvy” is a dead giveaway of fatfuckness. and now


you can add “healthy weight” to that list of bizarro world fatty
euphemisms. 49 minutes ago

They act like their arguments will change whether my dick get’s hard for them.

I wonder what the penalty will be 50-60 years from now for not dating a fat
woman?

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itsme on April 10, 2012 at 8:18 pm

I wonder what the penalty will be 50-60 years from now for not
dating a fat woman?

celibacy.

by then, people will be so fat that no euphemisms will be needed to describe


fatfuckness…..it will be the default, the norm.

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P Ray on April 11, 2012 at 12:23 pm

Or maybe hunchbacked.
Those women are curvy too!

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Anonymous on April 10, 2012 at 4:18 pm

4 years have gone by since the ‘the perfect woman’ post. has the idea of
the perfect woman changed in heartiste’s heart? it would be really nice to
read a sequel of that post.

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GeishaKate on April 10, 2012 at 8:07 pm

I’d love to read the original or a sequel, not to mention the comments
would be a treasure trove. I searched for that phrase and didn’t find
it, but I did stumble upon “The Sensitive Girl,” which- not
surprisingly- made me cry. lol

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GeishaKate on April 10, 2012 at 8:44 pm

Found it! For other interested readers:


https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2008/04/07/the-perfect-woman/

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Maya on April 11, 2012 at 12:10 pm

Oh my god, these two posts (The Perfect Woman and The


Sensitive Girl) are so beautiful I love you, Heartsie (but just in a
friendly way) and if you haven't already found her I hope you'll
find your perfect woman soon! I actually think that all girls are SG's and
perfect women it's just that some have been hurt in the past and so they
turned to feminism
I didn't know that you want to love one woman and that's really beautiful.
I'm sure you'll make her very happy! Hope you find her soon, it's a shame
if you're wasting your time without anyone having a chance to enjoy in
your company!

[heartiste: you ever see that movie “shortbus” where the frigid sex
therapist chick takes the advice of a gay client and shoves a
remote controlled electronic vibrating egg in her vagina so that her
boyfriend can set it off at random times, hopefully shocking her
into ecstasy?
yeah, i dunno why i just thought of that.]

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Maya on April 11, 2012 at 12:32 pm

I haven’t seen it nor I intend to watch it in the future. It’s


probably too boring for me … I rather read your blog Do you
have a girlfriend? Just asking.

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Theophilus on April 10, 2012 at 4:54 pm

Offtopic for post, but not for blog: http://youtu.be/C9Ko6Xfa84w

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itsme on April 10, 2012 at 5:27 pm

i could barely watch this, too many fat girls.

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Anon on April 10, 2012 at 5:42 pm

Love the youtube commenters:

“Yep, it just goes to show you that women treat men as objects.
Success objects. Who you are as a human being is irrelevant. What you are as
a status symbol is everything. There should be a men’s movement protesting
objectification of men. The government should spend billions of tax payers
dollars doing something about. Our colleges and Universities should offer
mens studies programs educating men on how women and society exploit
them and men should act pissed off generally about everything.”

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P Ray on April 11, 2012 at 12:22 pm

The biggest way to anger women who want men they’re not
attracted to, to wine them and dine them.
Speaking up about this in a tutorial gets the girls all riled up.
With my closer to the girls “I don’t see you openly complaining that the
head cheerleader ends up with the football captain”, and claps from the
other male students, it was a fun way to end the final class of the day.

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chi-town on April 11, 2012 at 10:50 am

That puts my phony foreigner bits to shame that I used to have fun
with. That is much better than just not being from around here. It
was just as instructive though. I realized its about everything to do
with nothing.

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itsme on April 10, 2012 at 6:07 pm

scene from the last episode of game of thrones.

theon greyjoy is returning home after being away ten years. he


disembarks a boat and is looking for a ride to his father’s castle. a girl walks up to
him.

girl: i’m heading that way. i can take you there.

theon (looking her up and down slowly): i bet you can.

girl: you been at sea long? or were there just no women where you came from?

theon: none like you.

girl: you don’t know what i’m like.

theon: maybe you don’t know what you’re like. maybe you need someone to
teach you.

theon: do you know who i am?

girl: do you think i offer free rides to every man, lord greyjoy?

next scene, they’re riding two-up on a horse. he’s behind her with his hands on
her waist.

theon: you should give me the reins. i’m a better rider than you. i’ve been on
horseback for the past nine years.

girl: nine years? do you still know your way around a ship?

girl (takes his hand and looking at it): have these hands ever touched a rope?

theon (pulling his hand out of her grip and putting it down the front of her shirt):
don’t you worry about my hands. the sea’s in my blood.

girl (clearly aroused by his squeezing and massaging): your blood will be in the
sea if i don’t watch where i’m going.

theon (retracts his hand, shoves it down the front of her pants, and starts
stroking): i have a proposal for my father. one that will make him king again. and
me after him. you may get to stay in a castle tonight if you’re lucky.

girl (turns her head back towards him, breathing heavily): is that an offer from
my future king?

theon: an order from your future king.

theon: you can tell your grandchildren about this night.

girl: i don’t imagine it’ll be a story fit for children.

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itsme on April 10, 2012 at 6:15 pm

he doesn’t fuck close. in the next scene, it’s revealed that she’s his
sister. he didn’t recognize her because he’d been away so long, but
she knew who he was the whole time.

proof that game works on everyone.

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Anon on April 10, 2012 at 6:43 pm


They will end up fucking, just like the lannisters.

Love that goddamn show.

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Seraph on April 10, 2012 at 7:07 pm

This is actually a very timely post for me. I happen to work in close
quarters often with women 1 on 1, some very attractive, and while I have
definitely changed my mindset in dealing with them, the mechanics
knowledge is lacking.

I do the gentle tease/hump busting (get your mind out of the gutter) kind of
dialogue, but even I realize that can get old fast if you don’t mix it up. I like the
mix of examples because it moves back and froth between mildly flirtatious to just
flippant banter.

Question I have is, the nature of the work we do means we spend time
interacting, then while in the same room concentrate on different tasks for a
while. Should I limit the amount of times I initiate any conversation? The reason I
ask is it seems if I initiate just to hit the ball back as it were, it comes across as
trying too hard.

I am actually married, but I am interested in both learning Game skills on general


principle, and for making it clear to my spouse that in the end, I DO have options,
and she should behave accordingly. I am waiting for the next company holiday
party to show the wife who I work with to firmly implant that in her head.

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Seraph on April 10, 2012 at 7:12 pm

“For the autistic tards out there, here are some BAD flirty lines:”

That is some funny shit…Thanks for the laugh.

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baron von bang on April 11, 2012 at 2:36 am

yes. this is exactly why i read these blogs. this is goooood shit.

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LP 999 on April 11, 2012 at 9:24 am

Hilarous! I love this stuff!

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hypnoshado on April 12, 2012 at 10:00 am

Really great stuff here. I caught myself in a few of those situations and
couldn’t manage to throw anything back fast enough in the heat of the
moment.

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