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zaza bibilaSvili

poezia, danarCeni literatura, da danarCeni

2019
* *
poezia sinamdvileSi arc iseTi cudi ramea, bevri rom cdilobs, war- mwerlis SemoqmedebaSi variantebis moxSireba SeiZleba oridan er-
mogvidginos. Tis niSani iyos:
an vera da ver iswavla wera, an bolos da bolos iswavla, rom
* yovelTvis arsebobs kargze ukeTesi _ Teoriulad, potenciurad.
nela. cota. dakvirvebiT. siyvaruliT. oqro.
axla mainc aravin geqaCeba mag Sens poeziaze. istorias kidev cuds
*
xom ar dautoveb?
TviTonac ar daitovebs, ise. poeziis codnis Sesamowmeblad ramdenime sazomi maqvs, Tumca maTi
srulyofilebis ra mogaxsenoT. magaliTad, am sazomebs Sorisaa erTi
* konkretuli avtoris (sajarod dasaxelebas moveridebi) leqsebi. mar-
poeziaSi enis SesaZleblobebis, anu, faqtobrivad, enis gamouy- tivia: vinc am leqsebs karg poeziad ar aRiarebs, mas poezia ar esmis...
enebloba mxolod enis upativcemulobas ar niSnavs. amas garda, es aris Tumca, samwuxarod, es imasac ar niSnavs, rom visac es leqsebi mos-
sakuTari Tavis, sakuTari eris umniSvnelobis aRiarebac. wons, imas esmis poezia.
es damokidebuleba usafuZvloa Tu safuZvliani, sxva sakiTxia.
*
* ki _ leqsiT unda icnobodes poeti.
verlibrisa da konvenciis `urTierTkonfliqtiT~ orive nakadi magram, amasTan, poetis erTi leqsi meorisgan unda gairCeodes.
`sargeblobs~, oRond _ poeziis sazianod: rac ufro mwvavea konfliq-
ti, orive met nagavs moaTrevs (poeziad rom SemogvasaRos), Sesabamis-
*
ad, ufro metad amRvrevs wyals, da, Sesabamisadve, ufro warmatebiT
Sen, visac poezia ar giyvars, poezia imitom ar giyvars, rom ar ici,
uSlis xels poeziis ganviTarebas, didi poeziis Seqmnas.
poezia ra aris, da poezia is ggonia, rac imas hgonia, visac poezia uy-
* vars.
leqsi, romlis kiTxvisas vgrZnob, rom misi dawera ukeTesad Sei-
Zleboda, karg leqsad veRar mimaCnia. II-III

recenzia interviu

konkursi Targmani

dodo WumburiZe
***
nugzar zazanaSvili Wirsa mravals SevrTe erTic, damzral guls vcxe sitfo madlis,
luwi rom ar gaxdes kenti, SiSs vWam cidan Camovardnis.
*** Cems cxovrebas, viTom mdores, zRvaze Storms da delgmas vadri,
iasamani ayvavda isev gaielvebs Tvalwin SoreTs wuTisoflis yvela kadri.
da ayvavdeba isev da isev... zogi unda yofiliyo, ar vRebulob zogsac kadriT,
sulelebiviT viRacas mivsdevT, axla viRac rom qilikobs, _ elis masac miwa adliT...
mivrbivarT, mivsdevT,
natavi _ saiT?..
V

rogorc gvirCevda erTi mxatvari _ zaal ebanoiZe

SevCerdeT,
davsxdeT,
da veras ambob...
davlioT Cai,
an yava, anda movwrupoT ludi
mogesurveba, gaxvide xalxSi,
da wavikiTxoT iseTi leqsi,
daagdeb Crdils da gadgebi mzeze,
romelic TiTqos suyvelas gvesmis,
erTdaimaves TvalebiT bavSvis
mTeli cxovreba kargav da eZeb.
magaliTad:
wavida Tovli, movida miwa...
gayuradeben zerele mzeriT
landiviT mCated marebels gzaze
da visxdeT ase, vucqiroT aprils
da Cirad uRirT bomoni Seni
da iasamans da vibaasoT,
am Cia, magram praqtikul kacebs.
sxvebma irbinon, dae, gagvaswron,
Cven ki ubralod vifiqroT _
ar amxel, Torem xom vici, tiri,
saiT?..
xandaxan Cumad _ Cvens Soris darCes
da veras ambob, radganac piri,
kargia ludic, yavac da Caic...
Tevzis ar iyos _ wyliTa gaqvs savse.

IV VIII
2 Canawerebi
* gasagebia, romelTan SeWidebasac am-
vis unda gavagebinoT, poezia ra
aris? amdeni xania, vwerT, da Cven Tvi-
Ton ver Camogviyalibebia, zusti ki
ara, Tundac gasagebi ganmarteba. yov-
el SemTxvevaSi _ me.
* rac xdeba: sazRvrebze gadasvlis sur-
esec samyaros warmoSobis sakiTxi an
sicocxlis azri xom ar aris?!
viRacas xom unda esmodes es... dal-
ocvili poezia?!
* anu iqmnebodes viTareba, romelic
poezia imis sawinaaRmdegos akeTebs,
rasac praqtikuli fsiqologia cdi-
lobs. meore amSvidebs _ yvelaferi
araferiao, pirveli aRizianebs _
araferic yvelaferiao.
zog poezias saerTod ara aqvs meti
mizani, daniSnuleba da `Rirebuleba~,
garda imisa, rom gaaRizianos. ra Tqma
unda, saukeTeso poezias ar vgulisx-
mob.
* vili rom davsaxe. kargi, raRac msgav-
saxelmwifoSi fuls vinme talan-
tiani (am SemTxvevaSi niWs vgulisxmob)
zarafi ar Wris. fuls saxelmwifo Wris
_ roca saxelmwifo saxelmwifoa,
fexze dgas, Zlieria.
dRes qarTul enaze maRalmxatvru-
li poeziis wera axirebas hgavs. ar ar-
sebobs is literaturuli saxelmwifo,
romelic amas unda iwvevdes, amas es-
afuZvlebodes. xolo mtkiceba, rom ase
imitom Svrebi da sxvanairad ar izam,
raki niWieri poet-zarafi xar, cota
briyvulad ismis da gamoiyureba.
* erlis dadebiT da aucilebel Tviseba-
zogjer iseTi STabeWdilebac rCe-
ba, TiTqos Seqmnili poezia aravis
sWirdebodes; TiTqos mxolod Semqm-
nels sWirdebodes misi Seqmna, rogorc
unaris, SesaZleblobis gamoyeneba da
gamomJRavneba.
* frTxea da Tan, ara, ubralod, realuri,
rogorc irkveva, poezias cota
mkiTxveli hyavs yvela qveyanaSi da yve-
la enaze. zogi sulac miiCnevs, rom
dRes is gadasarCenia. amis erT-erT sa-
Sualebad ki SeiZleba poeziis Targm-
nac davinaxoT. yovel SemTxvevaSi,
Targmna _ Teoriulad mainc _ ufro
xelmisawvdoms xdis ama Tu im konkret-
ul (naTargmn) poezias. eg aris, aqve
paradoqsic Casafrebula: unda Targ-
mno imitom, rom cota kiTxulobs... ras
izam _ poezia, saerTod, arapragmat-
ul saqmed, arapragmatuli adamianeb-
is saqmed miiCneva.
poeziis gadarCenasve unda exmare-
bodes aseTi saxelwodebis proeqtebi,
aqciebi, RonisZiebebi: `poezia
sazRvrebs gareSe~, `poezia kedlebs
gareSe~... Tumca mere saWiro xdeba
xolme am saxelwodebebis ganmarteba
da Cvenc vismenT: poeziisTvis sazRvre-
bi ar arsebobs, poezia yvela kedels
angrevs...
sinamdvileSi ki, poezias uamravi
ram sazRvravs, da misi garemomcveli
kedlebi sul ufro da ufro miiweven
erTmaneTisken.
isic paradoqss hgavs, rom poeziis
erT-erTi mTavari zRvari, misi yve-
laze mniSvnelovani winaRoba aris mi-
sive sxeuli _ ena.
bevri fiqrobs, rom poeziis Targm-
na SeuZlebelia. vinc amas ar eTanxmeba,
mgoni, maTi umravlesoba Targmnis.
Tumca vinc Targmnis, ar niSnavs, rom
maTi nawili mainc ar eTanxmeba amas.
eTanxmeba, magram Targmnis ise, rogorc
SesaZlebelia.
me, piradad, imis warmodgena co-
taTi maSinebs kidec, Tu ra Zalisxme-
vas moiTxovs didi wignebis srulfas-
ovanTan miaxloebulad Targmna.
poeziis srulfasovanTan miaxloebu-
lad Targmna ki SeuZlebelTan miax-
loebulic mgonia.
ra Tqma unda, arsebobs saTargmnad
SedarebiT advili an, gnebavT _ `Se-
darebiT SesaZlebeli~, da ufro rTu-
li anu `ufro SeuZlebeli~ poeziebi.
literaturuli gazeTi
jobineben mTargmnelebi.
da ras izam, Tu swori, samarTliani
da, zogadad, poeziisTvis sasargeblo
iqneboda, yvela tipis poezias misce-
moda ucxoel mkiTxvelamde miRwevis
Sansi; da ara piriqiT _ xdebodes is,
vili ama Tu im poezias winaswar gaWril,
viwro, erTnair kalapotSi moqcevas
aiZulebdes; aiZulebdes, ubralod,
uari Tqvas enaze, masSi Cawnexil Sesa-
Zleblobebze...
Tundac Teoriulad dagvaSvebinebs
aseT literaturul momavals: yvelgan
da yvela enaze erTnairi poezia daiw-
eros da, Sesabamisad, misma Targmnamac
dakargos azri.
* toris piradi nacnoboba ar Rirs.
axla vfiqrob, am bolo dros gada-
vaWarbe, poeziis qmnis mTavar safuZv-
lad (rogorc maxsovs) amisi SesaZle-
blobis qona da misi gamoyenebis sur-
si SegrZneba axlac maqvs; magaliTebis
zaza bibilaSvili
poezia,
danarCeni literatura,
da danarCeni
2019
motanac SeiZleba... magram imaT raRa
vuyoT, vinc mainc weren poezias (`poe-
zias~), miuxedavad imisa, rom es saer-
Tod, kategoriulad ar SeuZliaT?
* los da bolos, is araTanabar pirobeb-
yovelTvis didi sifrTxiliT
vekidebodi xelovnebas. leqssac _ anu
imasac, rac xelovnebaSi yvelaze kar-
gad vic(od)i. Tumca zogjer aseTi
damokidebuleba ar momwonda. axlac
vfiqrob, rom metismetma mokrZalebam
garkveulwilad Semaferxa, gasabedi ar
gamabedina... magram imasac vatyob, rom
mTlianobaSi marTali viyavi.
amas ki imitom vatyob, rom amasac
vatyob: dRes imaTgan, vinc leqsze sa-
jarod laparakobs, Zalian cotas aqvs
imaze warmodgena, razec laparakobs.
vimeoreb: warmodgena aqvs. ar
vgulisxmob, rom kargad erkveva.
*
sakuTari Semoqmedebis kvlevas Cven-
Si araerTi poeti SesWidebia; zogi _
fsevdonimiT, zogi _ mgoni, ufro da-
ufaravad.
TandaTan sul ufro mesmis maTi.
igrZnoba es sacduri, ki.
* Toeuli Zafi, sxva ZafebSi Cawnuli,
vrcel nawarmoebs albaT gan-
sakuTrebiT moeTxoveba gansakuTrebu-
li ena da struqtura _ ai, iseTi, te-
qstis wakiTxvas rom... `aadvilebs~ Tu
cudi sityvaa, maSin _ SesaZlebels
mainc rom xdis.
aba, amxelas da ase rTuls vin wai-
kiTxavso _ mkiTxvelisadmi sayveduris
toniT ar unda ambobdes avtori.
`vefxistyaosani~ icodnen da ician
zepirad.
* epizodebze an intensiur wnexzea
aris erTi gancda, romelic mwer-
lisTvis epigonobis kategoriis sa-
frTxeebs Seicavs. es aris siaxlis un-
dobloba, ndoba mxolod nacnobisa.
axali formisa Tu Sinaarsisa ar gjera.
miageni, miadeqi, magram ver ujereb, ar
ijereb, rom es, ase SeiZleba. imitom,
rom Signidan TiTqos ar exmianeba, ar
elis, ar iRebs manamde wakiTxuli, gag-
onili, daleqili. meore SemTxvevaSi _
piriqiT.
sabednierod, es gancda ar aris
uZleveli _ kerZod, niWis,
gamocdilebisa da Sromis winaSe.
* wigni amiT holivudis im mdare produ-
am mwerlis kidev erTi saintereso
wigni wavikiTxe. da kidev erTxel vi-
grZeni, rom nawarmoebis kiTxvisas av-
ara, axlos ar vicnob, magram imde-
nad saxasiaTo tipaJia, rom SeuZlebe-
li mgonia, mis nawers _ pirvel pirSi
_ kiTxulobde da mTxrobelad (mTa-
var gmirad) sxva vinmes warmoidgende.
gasagebia, rom wigni swored am (nac-
nobma) avtorma dawera, magram mxolod
piradi nacnobebisTvis xom ar dauwer-
ia?
mokled, SeiZleba iTqvas, rom es
nacnoboba xels miSlida kiTxvaSi. bo-
Si mayenebda avtoris armcnob mkiTx-
velTan...
* ase SeiZleba imitom vqeni, rom Canaw-
visac sityvebiT TamaSi, kalambure-
bis mofiqreba, sxva aseTebi da saTana-
do saavtoro nimuSebiT sajarod Tav-
mowonebac giyvarT, beqa adamaSvilis
`am romanSi yvela kvdebas~ wakiTxvis
Semdeg aucileblad mixvdebiT, rom
droa, hobi gamoicvaloT an am wignis
avtorze ukeTesad gaakeToT es, anu
hobi gamoicvaloT _ miT umetes, rom
vinc es wigni ukve waikiTxa, aucile-
blad mixvdeboda, rom droa, hobi gam-
oicvaloT an am wignis avtorze ukeTe-
sad gaakeToT es, anu hobi gamoicval-
oT.
*
es xaratiSvilis `merve sicocxlis~
kiTxvisas amotivtivda; kerZod, am epi-
zodisa:
didi bebia SvilTaSvils Zvel xali-
Cas uCvenebs da uxsnis, rom misi Ti-
TiTo ambavia da a.S. mere ki avtori
(SvilTaSvili) ambobs, ar icis, mad-
lieri iyos Tu ara didi bebiisa, romel-
mac am gakveTiliT gansazRvra misi mo-
mavali _ ambebs miRma ambebi eZios da
a. S.
ara mgonia, erTi gakveTili gan-
sazRvravdes xolme Cvens momavals Tu
Cvens mowodebas. albaT, es ufro Cven-
Si Cadebul kodebze da Cveni praqtiku-
li cxovrebis ufro mZafr, gardamtex
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damokidebuli. magaliTad, didi bebi-
is saqcieli ufro efeqtiani iqneboda,
SviliSvilisTvis xeli rom daevlo da
xaliCebiT gamotenil oTaxSi gamoeke-
ta ramdenime wliT, an xaliCebis qso-
vis saswavlad miebarebina sadme.
saerTodac, sul cota, arasworad
meCveneba, wignis personaJebs avtoris
gaqanebis warmosaxva, qceva Tu
metyveleba rom axasiaTebT...
arada, es yvelaferi romanebSi
araTu xSiria, aramed, mgoni, say-
ovelTaoa. aseTi epizodebi xom mSve-
nieri saSualebaa kompoziciis Sesakra-
vad. da TiTqos ara uSavs, pativcemuli
qts Tu emsgavseba, romlis personaJic,
vidre Tavis yvelaze mniSvnelovan _
sakaTarzise an sulac Tavganwirul _
saqciels Caidendes, ambobs: `erTxel
mamaCemma miTxra...~
(es yovelive ar niSnavs, rom `merve
sicocxles~ amis gamo gansakuTrebu-
lad verCi. magaliTi iyo. ufro swo-
rad, magisi kiTxvisas wamotivtivda,
rogorc TavSive vTqvi).
*
mwerloba faqtebs, movlenebs,
obieqtebs, ambebs Soris kavSiris, an
ufro martivad da zustad rom vTqva
_ maTi urTierTmimarTebis danaxva da
aRweraa. ra Tqma unda, is damokidebu-
lia mweralze, rogorc subieqtze, mis
konkretul xedvaze da amas ver
gaveqceviT. albaT, arc unda gaveqceT.
sxva saqmea interpretacia, mwerlis
`Carevis~ xarisxi. TviT avtoris
mZlavri warmosaxva, rac, zogadad, mw-
dac ki miiCneva, amave dros, Seicavs re-
alur safrTxes, gaamrudos simarTle,
da zemoxsenebuli urTierTmimarTebani
warmoaCinos ara obieqturad, aramed...
Tundac ise, rogorc vTqvaT, siuJetis
Canafiqris mixedviT ganviTarebas See-
weoda. Cemi azriT, es mniSvnelovani sa-
aramed iseTic, romlis acilebac, praq-
tikulad (ukeTes SemTxvevaSi _ TiTq-
mis), SeuZlebelia.
savaraudod, es erT-erTi mizezia
imisa, rom mwerloba cxovrebas, adami-
ans imaze metad ver exmareba, vidre si-
namdvileSi exmareba.
*
erTi-orjer, roca literaturul
Temaze raRac mkiTxes, uneburad Cemive
Canawerebi movixsenie da `davimowme~ _
TiTqos saavtoro ufleba davicavi da
citatis uavtorod dasaxelebas mov-
eride.
erebs ufro vendobodi, vidre sakuTar
Tavs kiTxvis dasmis momentSi. ufro
sworad, aseT kiTxvebze pasuxebis mar-
tivad, msjelobis gareSe, msjelobis
gulisxmobis gareSe gacema arasworad
momeCvena, da amasTan, maxsovda,
rogori marTali viyavi maSin, roca
Canawerebs viwerdi.
CanawerebSi gadmocemuli fiqrebis,
SegrZnebebis gaCenis simarTles
vgulisxmob, ra Tqma unda, da ara _ maT
uryev WeSmaritebas.
*
es Canawerebi? tvinSi myisieri gan-
aTebebia _ rac WeSmarit(ebis) gasxi-
vosnebas sulac ar niSnavs _ romlebic
Cawera-gadakiTxvis Semdeg arc ise
suleluri aRmoCndeba xolme, rom maTi
gamoqveyneba samarcxvinod an dana-
Saulad Candes _ da romelTa saTana-
do _ sagareod gadamuSaveba (re-
daqtireba) SesaZlebelia.
*
mTeli cxovreba viTomleqss rom
weren, da hgoniaT, leqss weren... ai, ma-
gaT ra ubadruki rame hgoniaT leqsi...
imaze gacilebiT ubadruki rame, vidre
sinamdvileSia.
erTgvarad erTguli xalxi kia. ase-
Ti ubadruki rame hgoniaT leqsi da
mainc mTeli cxovreba weren.
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arc is aris `Cemi~, normaluri, sak-
mao donis poeti sxva poetze rom am-
bobs _ saswaulebs Svrebao (da am sao-
crebebSi mis teqstebs gulisxmobs)!
amiT xom imasac migvaniSnebs, rom Tvi-
Tonac sCadis cotaTi nakleb
saswaulebs mainc.
erTi profesiis adamiani meore
profesiaSi naqnars rom miiCnev sao-
crebad, eg sxvaa. magram Sen TviTon
rasac akeTeb, is saswauli rogor unda
gegonos?!
vgulisxmob _ saswaulTa saswauli,
Torem ise SeiZleba yvelaferi
saswaulad miiCnio. egre, vTqvaT,
sunTqvac saswaulia, magram ara mgonia,
vinmeze aRtacebiT Tqva _ au, ra magar-
ia _ sunTqavso!
* Cateva, rom jer gamoxmaureba ar gam-
SeiZleba, literatura mniSvnelo-
vanwilad isec mxiblavda, rogorc
urTierTobis forma, alternatiuli
forma.
SeiZleba, magitomac ar momwons,
urTierTobis mag formis ganviTarebas
urTierTobis sxva formebis gamoyene-
bac rom sWirdeba...
* SeuZlebelia, mweralmac ar ig-
serialis scenarze muSaobisas
zogjer ver migebdnen `axirebas~ _ esa
da es personaJi, ama da am xasiaTebiT,
amisa da amis Cadenis mere amasa da amas
aRar Caidens, an kidev _ amisa da amis
Semdeg esa da es ver moxdeba-meTqi...
holivudis briyvuli scenarebi ax-
lac maRizianebs. magram maTs prodi-
userebs TviTnabad idiotebad ukve
aRar miviCnev. ukve vfiqrob: sadac is
SeZles, rom marTlac SesaniSnavi msax-
iobebisTvis moeyaraT Tavi, brwyinvale
sareJisoro Tu operatoruli namuSe-
vari da fantastikuri specefeqtebi
mieRoT, ramdenime iseT scenaristsac
moiZiebdnen, realuri cxovrebisa da
logikisa raRac rom gaegebaT da Seu-
ZliaT, erT siuJetSi milioni amazrze-
ni sibriyve ar Caidinon.
eg ki ara, savaraudod, es ukve mo-
Ziebul scenaristebsac SeuZliaT; Seu-
ZliaT ukeTesi, metic _ normaluri,
da albaT kidev ufro kargi scenareb-
is dawerac...
magram arsebobs erTi mizezi, ris
gamoc amas ar Svrebian: es aravis sWird-
eba.
* waval~ _ `Rvino aris samoTxe, samoTxe
samarcxvino SedegebiT dasrulebu-
li literaturuli konkursebis Sem-
deg ar Rirs vinmesTvis damamSvidebe-
li CiCini, rom dRevandel premias asi
wlis Semdeg satelevizio anZis ZirSi
kotriali sjobs (iqac ar ikotrialebs
da magazec emand pasuxi ar mogTxov-
oT).
konkursis Sedegebi maSinaa dasakide-
beli, Tu SevTanxmdebiT, rom rame mniS-
vnelovani ki ar moxda, aramed ramden-
ime SemTxveviTi briyvi Seikriba da Tavi-
si erTi adgilis qeifis mixedviT gasca
iarliyebi; Tu am Sedegs ar mivulocavT
gamarjvebulebs; Tu es Sedegi ar miscems
mimarTulebas potenciuri mkiTxvelis
arCevansa da gemovnebas; da a. S.
magram roca yvelaferi ase ar aris
da roca garkveuli jgufi absolu-
turi literaturuli kompetenciis
pretenziiT arigebs am iarliyebs, mgo-
ni, sxva reaqcia ufro bunebrivi da,
Tundac, literaturisadmi pativisce-
mis mimaniSnebelia...
* munebina, fsiqologi varo, am saqmeSi
Tu literatorTa droebiT iduma-
li jgufis gadawyvetileba samarcxvi-
noa, ara aqvs mniSvneloba, romeli av-
toritetuli saxelebi aRmoCndeba
mere am samarcxvino gadawyvetilebis
ukan. an _ aqvs da aseTi: rac ufro av-
toritetulia es saxelebi, miT ufro
samarcxvinod SegviZlia miviCnioT
xsenebuli faqti, iseve, rogorc is
faqti, rom es saxelebi Tanamedrove
literaturul garemoSi avtoritet-
ulia.
literaturuli gazeTi
literaturul (da msgavsi tipis)
konkursebSi yovelwliurad imisTvis
ar unda ixarjebodes dro, energia,
emocia, fuli, rom Semdeg davsxdeT
xolme da as-asi wlis gasvlas davelo-
doT _ literaturuli (da sxva tipis)
samarTlianobis aRdgenis imediT da,
gnebavT, rwmeniT.
* gaixede, gamoixede...
_ Sen mTlianad moitane am simRe-
ris saTqmeli, _ eubnebian Jiuris
wevrebi musikaluri konkursis monawi-
leebs.
saTqmeli, Torem sul filosofi-
uri sibrZneebi devs am simRerebSi, am
teqstebSi...
testis umravlesobas vgulisxmob,
umciresobas _ iqneb arc.
* nili ki ara, didi mweralic ki ver moiq-
bolo dros ramdenime cnobili
sasimRero teqsti gadakeTda. magali-
Tad:
`Tqveni iyos, waiReT samoTxec da
edemic, mTvrali Tundac jojoxeTSi
da edemi, vinc ar dalevs, jojoxeTSi
wava~.
`RmerTo Cemo, Cemi codviT daiwvi~
_ `RmerTo, am bavSvebis codviT davi-
wvi~...
ai, ase icvleba RmerTisadmi damok-
idebuleba _ imis gaTvaliswinebiT, Tu
ras ityvis xalxi, da ara _ ras ityvis
RmerTi.
* kai _ sworad cxovreba imitom ar
getyvian, leqsi davwereo da raRac
arwasakiTxs wagakiTxeben. `magar~ anek-
dots mogiyvebian da tirili moginde-
ba...
saSinelebaa es profesionalizmi.
* were da iyavi. ras dawer imaze ukeT-
zogi iumoria _ sustia, magram uwy-
inari, upretenzio... zogi _ ai, SegaZa-
gZagebs!
* Tavs _ maSin menaxa, ar daweriliyoo!
etyoba, Zalian niWieri fsiqolo-
gia, raki SeZlo, sakuTari Tavi daerw-
sruliad uniWos.
* gaige, qalo?
veterani sportsmeni _ moqmedi an
yofili sportsmeni, asakiT 30-dan 130
wlamde.
* sikvdili arc mtkivneulia, arc _ sa-
am qveyanaSi advokati damWirda _
iurisprudencia viswavle, eqimi dam-
Wirda _ medicina, aSeneba damWirda _
Seneba.
raRa literaturis mcodnes viTx-
ov, raRa magis Seswavla ar movindome
viTom?!
* isec xdeba, rom aris qali, romel-
Sen, ra, isev darwmunebuli xar, rom
rom poeziis qmna arapraqtikuli, al-
truistuli saqmianobaa da materi-
aluri xeiri ar moaqvs?
es _ SeiZleba, SenTvis, Torem
* SeiZleba iyos adamiani, visi yofna
imas, rasac amden literaturul
festivalze kiTxulobT, rodisRa
werT?
* aris Temebi, romlebzec socialur
kiTxulob da guli gwydeba, rom ama
Tu im SemTxvevaSi, vinme mxolod gamoCe-
ca maincdamainc mosawonad; aq es daa-
bezRa, iq imas emliqvnela, sxvisi kuTv-
nili xom araerTxel aiRo... da ara mx-
olod guli gwydeba, TiTqos gikvirs
kidec _ is xom didi iyo da Tan mS-
venivrad icoda, rom es Rirseuli
saqcieli ar aris. maS, ratom qna?!
magram mere gaixedav, gamoixedav, da
mixvdebi, rom Turme arc ise advili,
yovel SemTxvevaSi, arc ise xSiri yofi-
la Rirseulad cxovreba _ maSinac ki,
roca arc cols gtacebs vinme, arc
gacimbirebiT gemuqreba da arc mux-
lebSi gamtvrevs...
* CvenSi laiqebs, premiebs, mxardaWerebs,
gamodis, rom roca eg gamodis, sxva
aRaraferi gamodis.
da sworad wera xom SeiZleba, es...
dalocvili?!
* feisbuqi _ profanizaciis, dekval-
ess, rac dawerila. mere ra, Tu zogjer
gegoneba, rom am qveyanaSi da am qvey-
anazec araferi dawerila saerTod.
Zalas Tu daitan, imiTRa inugeSeb
* bic~ qveyndeba, romlebSic weria, Tu ra
aseTi bedic yofila:
Senze mSvenier leqsebsa werdnen da
Sen es verasodes Seityo.
*
roca aseT silamazes uyureb, iseTi
SegrZneba gaqvs, rom kvdebi. oRond es
SiSi. sevdiania mxolod.
guli gwydeba. TiTqos bavSvi xar da
mxolod Cauare vitrinas, romelSic is
sanukvari saTamaSo moCans, romelic
Canawerebi 3
SeiZleboda sxva cxovrebaSi Seni yo-
filiyo.
*
ic sruliad miuwvdomeli ggonia,
araamqveyniuri ggonia, arc ki ggonia,
rom marTla arsebobs... da mere am qal-
Tan seqsi gaqvs. rbilad rom vTqvaT.
*
ra ucnauria:
Sen verc ki dagijerebia.
is ki TviTon iyos.
*
qselSi ar vpostav, raki SeuZlebelia
saTqmelis erT momcro abzacSi ise
oiwvios, Semdeg _ gamoxmaurebaze
gamoxmaurebis saWiroeba da, saboloo
jamSi, dialogis usasrulod da uSede-
god gagrZelebas ar daudos saTave.
mokled, miuxedavad survilisa,
jerjerobiT, ver aRmovaCine sakuTar
TavSi romanisti.
*
rZnos, rom feisbuqze postva ufro ad-
vilia...
*
postebi ufro advilad iwereba da
ikiTxeba.
ratom gvawvaleb, literaturav?
*
ki batono _ am feisbuqs litera-
turis erTgvari mxardaWerac ar da-
vukargoT: ase Tu ise (an raRa ase Tu
ise), teqstis gamoqveynebis saSualebaa
da, Sesabamisad, Taviseburi stimulic
_ sawerad, dawyebulis dasamTavre-
blad, damTavrebulis dasaxvewad gaqe-
zebs _ gelodebao, gelodebiano. ma-
gram... rom ici, daxvewisTanave (an man-
amdec) gamoaqveyneb, gamoufen feisbu-
qis uWreles auditorias, es TiTqos im
intims, gabedulebas, siwrfeles uqmnis
saSiSroebas, riTic leqsi unda iwere-
bodes (gazeTs, Jurnals, wigns rom iyi-
dis, literaturul saitze rom Seva, eg
sxva segmenti da sxva SemTxvevaa). vin
waikiTxavs, vin _ ara, vin ras gaigebs,
ras _ vera _ amaze amjerad arafers
vambob. is saSiSroeba ki, zemoT rom
vTqvi, marTla unda arsebobdes _ al-
baT vigrZeni, raki es davwere. da raki
vigrZeni, iqneb moverido, avirido
kidec...
*
axlaxan feisbuqze Catarebulma
eqsperimentma seriozulad ganamtkica
im mosazrebis poziciebi, rom xSirad
produqti ki ara, saxeli imkis. meore
sakiTxi is aris, es saxelebi rogor iqm-
neba. eg rom mainc damsaxurebulad
xdebodes, kidev ara uSavs.
*
ifikaciis mSvenieri meqanizmi.
uwyveti sajaro urTierToba amis
SesaniSnavi sawindaria.
*
gagecineba da, feisbuqze zogjer
sainformacio saagentoebis is `niuse-
iposteba feisbuqze.
*
me mgoni, ukve Zalian gabazrda feis-
buqis gamogonebis ambavi...
*
feisbuqi erTi uzarmazari wignia,
romelsac yvela erTad vwerT, vailus-
trirebT da a. S.
ra gamogvdis, ki xedavT.
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mogulaveTa alagas,
romliTac ase amayoben baqoelebi,
Sevedi erT-erT kafeSi _
simwvanem mimizida...

aq bevri ramea poeturi:

magaliTad, es ori xe, romlebic ar

mouWriaT _ kafes interierisTvis
daurTavT Tan,

maT ZirSi darguli patara,

lamazad moyvavile mcenareebi,

gemovnebiT SerCeuli Ria-moyavisfro

magidebi da skamebi,

abstraqtuli qandakeba _ klasikur,

patara svetismagvar sayrdenze,

Tundac, ai, is sruliad mSvenieri

gogo, oqrosferi botasebi rom acvia
da jinsic iseTi SeurCevia, gverdze
oqrosferi zoliviT ornamenti rom
gasdevs, Tumca gemovnebianad _
brWyvialis gareSe,

an _ es Cumi laTinuri jazi, qalis

nugzar zazanaSvili odnav melanqoliuri soloTi,
romlis smenisas dedaCemi gamaxsenda
ratomRac...

aq bevri ramea poeturi...

*** Tu leqsi ki mainc ar modis.
gardamavali asaki...
romeli?.. aravin
aravis ***
pirveli: icnobs? agvistos kargi saRamoa
`aris siyrmes da simwifes Soris uberavs niavi
Sesvenebis Tu simorcxvis Jami~. gamvleli cotaa
*** avtomobilic naklebia
meore (Tu miaRwie meoremde): ra saWiroa sityvebi? _
`simwifesa da siberes Soris ar mjera, mivseirnob nela, sveneb-svenebiT,
dgeba SfoTvis Tu Ziebis Jami~. aRar vendobi radgan Cqara an Seusvenebliv _
xmamaRla warmoTqmul sityvebs, aRar SemiZlia: guli mawuxebs
mesame (Tu miaRwie mesamemde): arc Jests energiuls, da kidev bevri sxvac...
`siberesa da aryofnas Soris arc bejiT nabijs.
sinanulis da SiSis Jamia~. gavCerdi
odnav Sevuxvie
ar vici, ra mWirs.
da Camovjeqi patara skverSi
ise ki,
guramiSvilis simartovesTan
kaci sul gardamaval asakSi ar xar? ara, vici _ sibere.
sul gardadixar, sul icvli fers _
da Semomesma:
Tavi igive ggonia, Tumca da
moTmineba
dRes is aRar xar, rac iyav guSin, am wynari RamiT Sevyureb verxvebs gaqcevs
xval is aRar xar, rac iyav dRes, patara, moCuxCuxe borjomulas piras adamianad
da mgoni,
anu ukve xeebisa ukeT mesmis, ar vici _ egeb asea,
Sen Tavze didi warmodgena ki gaqvs, vidre _ adamianebisa... egeb arc aris ase
magram
didad ar gansxvavdebi sxva yvelafrisgan da
*** ra kargia
da ra damsaxurebisTvis asveneben ra simyudrovea
sarkem da fotom am qalbatons sionidan?.. am saRamos
Senze uTuod _ Svilma, eklesiis ufrosobasTan am patara skverSi
ukeT daaxloebulma pirma, Caawyo saqme... guramiSvilis simartovesTan
ician
es. amaze fiqrs did dros ar davuTmob _
wvrilmania. ***
msxvilmani ki isaa, rom adre davberdi: dizaini axalia
*** jer 62-is var da zogs 70-is vgonivar... magram mainc
did miznebs nu daisaxav lampionebis odnav dabinduli
xom SeiZleba Suqi patara skverSi
ara, esec wvrilmania.
xvalindeli dRe Zveleburad
namdvili msxvilmani ki isaa, rom davberdi
ar gagiTendes melanqoliuria
da am cxovrebisa bevri veraferi gavige:
raRac pasuxebi ki maqvs, magram _
daisaxe didi miznebi
arc erTi, rasac feisbuqis
xom SeiZleba
komentarebSi davuwerdi _ `100%~... ***
xvalindeli dRe
ra axlobelia
gagiTendes
da ase, mTlad-ver-darwmunebuli `kraotebis~ nawilebi _ RobeSi:
vmoZraob finiSisaken: Zveli, Jangmodebuli `setkebi~,
*** raRacis Secvla minda, magram mezareba, sayrdeni zurgebi,
ra advilia _ Tan sazogadoeba fiqrobs, rom beberma odesRac monikelebuli,
giyvardes deda, Cem Tavze aRar unda vifiqro da Cemi an firuzisfrad SeRebili...
mama, darCenili cxovreba mivuZRvna sxvebs:
da-Zma, viTomc _ var, maTgan, vinc Tavis dros
Svili, magram viTomc aRara var... SeiZina es kraotebi,
SviliSvili... cocxali albaT aRaravinaa,
da ra Znelia _ komunistebis lozungs hgavs es, veRarc kraotebi kraotoben,
giyvardes adamiani. rusuli filmic iyo im dros saTauriT: magram raRaciT mainc
`yvelaferi rCeba xalxs!~ eSvelebian axal Taobas...

*** mokled _ sicocxlis bolosken

amaTgan romelia gramatikulad komunisti vxdebi... ***
gamarTuli: ra mSvenivrad agrilda

aravin *** da davseirnob ivlisis RamiT

aravis Ramis TerTmetis naxevarze, Cemi 100-biniani korpusis axlos
ar icnobs baqos centrSi, Sadrevnebis moedanze _ skverSi
17 - 30 ianvari 2020
literaturuli gazeTi poezia 5
ra mSvenivrad agrilda ***
vsaubrobT da caSi mihqris,
sxvebic daseirnoben, aq ar rCeba erTi bgerac,
ufro _ ZaRlebis xaTriT, cxadi iluzias gviqmnis, guli uCveulod Relavs,
labradoris, haskis, pudelis, xelad qreba, rac gvinda da,
sul patara, msuqani ZaRluniebis, rac ar gvinda, Cndeba xelad,
Zlivs rom dabajbajeben... `me igi var, vin sofelsa
ar amohkrefs kitrad, berad~,
ra mSvenivrad agrilda uflisaken qars gavyvebi,
gelaTTan rom dauberavs...
me ki kata myavs _ `TunCika~ _
Cemma qaliSvilma ezodan sacodavi
***
knuti rom amoiyvana _ is TunCika _ Zvel misamarTebs vkiTxulob,
gasuqebuli, moalerse da mSiSara _ gadaSlilebi rom ari,
erTi wlis gaxda, magram cxvirs gareT Cumad gafrinda es welic, wyalma wamarTva borani,
isev ver yofs _ ucxo xmebi aSinebs... dodo WumburiZe frenen mtredni da aqvea beberi Savi yoranic,
`vera vcnen Jamis ambavni, verca dramisa wonani~...
ra mSvenivrad agrilda

ra vuyoT _ aseTebi varT: ***

zafxulSi sigrile gviyvars, sicocxlisas vityvi Tusa,
zamTarSi _ siTbo... sikvdilis wil vqargav tilos,
gulanSaros gazafxulsa,
ese igi leqss, simReras, anbans, kilos,
zafxuli da zamTari maincdamainc gamovgzavni SenTan, eli, iqneba mand daiwyvilo,
ar gviyvars... aqauri yofa bneli mandauriT gaibrwyino...

maSasadame
gazafxulis da Semodgomis ***
xalxi varT... mkiTxavs Satilis niavi: `vin xaro, visi gorisa~,
caSi arwivebs vuyureb, aqve mcems Crdili qorisa,
vgrZnob leTis wyalis dinebas
ra mSvenivrad agrilda
mTebsa da xevebs Sorisa,
wuTisofeli omia oris, _ gulis da gonisa...
***
isev gamoCnda quCebSi safosto yuTi ***
isev lurji mesma mosvla gazafxulis, yvavilebiT Camoburva,
oRond nacrisfriT ciklidan: dea sasaxleli: werilebi eli qaric gaxda azartuli _ gadafanta ares urva,
ufro didi zomis gordelians gulanSarodan parizSi dardi mainc SemomiZvra, ganSoreba ar isurva,
ufro mkveTri kuTxeebiT tkivils Tavi dauara moTminebam diacurma, _
romelic Zveleburad kedelze *** navi verag wuTisoflis wynar napirTan miacurva...
ki ar aris mimagrebuli _ cxovreba gasawyinarda,
trotuarze dgas Cvennairs koSkebs ar ugebs,
sxvas wyalobs, sxvisTvis irjeba, ***
minda werili mivwero vinmes Cven gvaTqmevinebs augebs. kevri gulze gadamivlis,
minda werili mivwero vinmes qveyana ese Saria, patara gulanSaroa, mere dardebs Cemsas cexvavs,
minda werili mivwero vinmes mere ra, zurmuxt-firuzi xmeleTia da ca roa, damaviwyebs adamians, nela gulsac gamitexavs,
bedisweris guls veravin ver albobs, civi qva roa, xma gakminda roca mexmac, rogor amoviRo me xma,
namdvili werili zogisTvis aris zeimi, zogisTvis samwuxaroa, gvalvam baRi gadaria, Savqliavi totze Sexma,
el. fostis mesiji ki ara fatmanisTvis rom dedaa, visac uTqvams, marTalia:
da arc feisbuqis Setyobineba nestanis cremlis wyaroa, guls xravs Jami, magram ver xravs...
namdvili werili natvrisTvalia viRacis, sxvisTvis dilegi, xaroa,
qaRaldis furcelze xeliT dawerili vaWar-mevaxSis arena kolael yrmaTa kaloa,
sicocxle Zvirze Zviria, sikvdili uangaroa... ***
werili
qveyana ese Saria, patara gulanSaroa... mokecila xuTad TuTa,
qari angrevs kldes da gorebs,
minda dawvrilebiT aRvwero
gaveqcevi sulTamxuTavs,
Cemi grZnobebi da gancdebi gamosavals vnaxav, Torem...
***
dRevandeli grZnobebi da gancdebi yvelaferi mimaqvs sulTan,
Cveni qveynis momavali iyo Tema saubrisa,
xanSiSesulis grZnobebi da gancdebi kaci idga, _ xom ar ari, _ vTqvi, _ viRaca Zvel gramafonebs
sul sxva kacis grZnobebi da gancdebi ioseb, Zma uflisa. ukravs da Jams aqcevs wuTad,
dawvrilebiT aRvwero Turme iyo soflis mwyemsi, imnairad amaTrTolebs,
gulwrfelad aRvwero batkans cvlida dambal qerze, sxeuls ekliT gamowurTnavs,
guli gadavuSalo vinmes mas SeeZlo, ukeTesi gaecvala araferze. mecxre casTan gamatolebs...

Tundac sakuTar cols

anda Svilebs *** ***
mzeSi Cawnul Rrublebidan xeebs vumzer, ra qaria! mTvarec ar Cans ra xania,
daecvaraT nuSebs orTqli, gadamWknara marwyvis mdelo, nayanarSi mayvalia,
*** sanTeliviT dadna sulSi locva, sayvareli kacic ar Cans, imeds yavli gayvania...
xanSiSesulebs siamovnebT uflisaTvis rom vTqvi,
zafxulSi, axla ise laRada var,
saRamos, TiTqos coli viyo xonTqris, ***
mzis Casvlis Semdeg, anda saydris naZvi viyo, siyvarulma mikarnaxa asi TergiT mTvrali leqsi,
cota rom agrildeba _ dro da Jami rom ver moTxris, mzis guliviT mxurvale da
gareT neli nabijiT seirnoba magram smenas ar asvenebs xma Soridan, mzis sxiviviT uswrafesi,
da qalis moTqmis... mogarTvi da SemeSinda, ufskrulebiT gaviqeci,
jibeSi xurdis Cumi Cxriali... ramdenjerac wamovdeqi, imdenjerve waviqeci...

***
imerel megobars
eh, ra koxtad swevdi `staqans~,
rogor kulturulad sclidi!..
Tavs Sexede _ axla ra xar,
erTi, kargad daakvirdi:
saxe naoWebad iqca,
ver iokeb xelis kankals,
TiTqos ukve gixmobs miwa,
TiTqos ukve aq aRar xar...
TiTqos... magram aq xar jerac,
jer ara xar warsul droSi...
gixaria, Zmakac Joras
rom mougeb dominoSi...
***
fiqrobs dea: ra iqneba, rame unda Seicvalos,
sanTlis mkrTali ali qreba,
ukanasknel ZaliT wvalobs,
_ „araferi ar icvleba,
ar Rirs Tavi gaiwvalos,~ _
ityvis qari, qaraSoti: `cocxlobs,
bedi mainc wyalobs!..~
***
mdogvis marcvals Tesavs dea,
fiqrobs: iqneb amovides,
qariani civi dRea, mze aris da yinavs kidec,
veraferi gaugia, _ ra misces, ra gauyides,
kargi ram rom sWirdes, hoda,
cudi rogor gaukvirdes...
***
maisis tye Crdilebs arCevs,
aCens xazebs wvero alvis,
simZimilis erdo davxSe, sixarulis gavxsen kari,
cidan RmerTi iyureba, itruneba suli qalis,
ixsneba da ixureba CaxlarTuli kalTa karvis...
***
mze gazavda nislSi, qarSi, qalaqmac mze gadaicva,
eSmaki rom iyo, wamSi angelozad gadaiqca,
sxivma, rogorc ToTo bavSvma, gaicina da gaiqca,
saxls mercxali daubrunda
da qveyanac ar daiqca...
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* baT mxolod agvistos dReebSi maxsen- * *

150-rCeuliani parlamenti ra aris deba xolme es kaci da ambavi: kafka dawerda rames. Tu rodisme momiwodebia _ brma
da milioniani feisbuqi raRa unda `demetre II, rogorc buRas me- ara, dRes ki aqciaze iqneboda, ma- politikur mxardaWerebs moveSvaT da
iyos. gobari, yaenma daibara. mefem darba- gram xo mividoda saxlSi. azrovnebaze gadavideT-meTqi, ico-
mere ra, rom am milions Tavi im 150- zi (samefo sabWo) moiwvia, romelmac deT, rom gadavifiqre.
ze ukeTesi hgonia. urCia urdoSi ar wasuliyo da mTebSi * is unda akeTo, rac gamogdis. kac-
ho, kai _ nawils _ arc Tu usafuZ- gaxiznuliyo. demetre II darbazs ar mgoni, droa, Cveulebriv goimobad mac da ermac.
vlod. daeTanxma im motiviT, rom urdoSi gamovacxadoT upirobo mxardaWera
wausvlelobas monRolebis mier erTi romelime politikuri subieqti- *
* ubralo xalxis gaJleta da qveynis sa, misi nebismieri gancxadebis, saqcie- politika kompromisebis xe-
Zalian advili yofila feisbuqze aoxreba mohyveboda... mefe demetre II- lis, fiqris, gamometyvelebis da a. S. lovnebaao _ ambobda xolme erTi
dablokva. miCvevac scodnia. Tan pat- s yaenis brZanebiT Tavi mohkveTes~ SemTxvevaSi _ garda im viTarebisa, Tu Cveneburi politikosi (ufro savarau-
ara RmerTiviTac xar: (vikipedia). es upirobo mxardamWeri am subieqtis doa, rom pirveli ar iyo, visac es uTq-
wkaap!.. vams).
politika ki ara, cxovrebac eg
* aris.
warmoidgine, RmerTs ramxela feis-
buqi aqvs. ramdeni frendi _ ramdeni *
viTommegobari hyavs. ramdens xedavs. lars uTxres _ banki mamkvdara.
ra dReSia. sawyali. zaza bibilaSvili man navardi qna, gaiqca.

* *
fotoebi, romlebzec mwvadebs adamianebi mxolod imitom kvdebi-
(diax, bevr mwvads) wvaven, uxvad an, rom eqimebma Tavis droze sikvdil-
laiqdeba. is axlandeli mizezi ver upoves? da
fotoebs, romlebzec cxvars
(bevrs) klaven, ZiriTadad cremliani
poezia, mxolod imitom ar kvdebian, rom
eqimebma axlandeli sikvdilis mizezi
da gabrazebuli smailebi axlavs.
danarCeni upoves Tavis droze? rogor aris eg?
ra Tqma unda, yvela adamians da yve-
* la sikvdils ar exeba es ambebi da kiTx-
sevdiani ramaa feisbuqi. kidev ufro literatura, vebi, romlebic _ vaRiaroT _ arc ise
sevdianobas misi ustiloba, ekleqtur- Wkvianuri Cans _ gansakuTrebiT, erTi
oba, uTavbolo siWrele da misTanebi
uSlis xels. mTeli Cveni cxovrebis pano
da SexedviT.

kia. aq aris yvelaferi: dabadeba, drois *

mdinareba, gazrda, dabereba, asakis mal- danarCeni panaSvidze WirisuflisTvis misam-
va, kargi da cudi makiaJi, sxva tipis ko- Zimrebisas TavSi es frazac momsvlia
reqcia... da, ra Tqma unda, sikvdili. 2019 da miTqvams kidec: `yvela movkvdebiT~.
mokled, esec gviCvenebs, rom cx- uh, egreve mogeSveba gulze.
ovreba bevri araferia. da Tu sruli- cinizmia, ra.
ad sevda ar aris, egec am aWyabaWya fer-
ebis bralia. *
sicocxle avtomaturad niSnavs
* sikvdils, mas efuZneba.
sibereSi erTi siamovneba iqneba imas ar vgulisxmob, rom yvela
feisbuqis gacrecili da gayviTlebu- cocxali kvdeba. imas vambob, rom
li Catis gadakiTxva... cocxalTa umravlesoba imitom aris
cocxali, rom sxva cocxals Wams.
* klavs, Sesabamisad.
Turme samoTxeSi Svebuleba ar
mTavrdeba... *
wlebis metastazebs raRa uSvelis...
*
ise gavzarmacdi, muSaobac ki meza- *
reba. sikvdili arafersac ar daalagebs.
ubralod, yvelaferi fexebze gekide-
* ba.
xelfasis Caricxvis dRes ukve Segi- fsiqologiuri momentia, ra.
Zlia mTeli guliT inatro, rom dro
gaCerdes. *
an _ xelfasis gamolevis dRes. sikvdilis mere cxovreba didi ime-
gaaCnia, saidan Sexedav. * gacxadebuli, Statiani, oficialuri dia _ erTi SexedviT. anu TiTqos urw-
aseTi igavia: erTi gemiT ori mteri warmomadgenelia da upirobo mxardaW- munoTa sikvdili gacilebiT ufro mZ-
* (urTierTmteri) mgzavrobs. pirvelis erasTan erTad, ar amtkicebs, rom yve- imea _ arafrad qcevis perspeqtivaze
es ori axali weli kidev iseTi goi- kaiuta kiCosTanaa, meorisa _ qimTan. laferSi marTalia. ver ityvi, saxarbieloao. magram meore
moba mgonia, amis aRniSvnas bodiSic rom erTxelac, pirvels acnobeben _ gemi mxriv, ramxela gansacdelia RvTis sam-
ar unda waumZRvaro-moayolo. iZireba da ver gadavrCebiTo. is kiTx- * sjavro! da ramxela SeRavaTia, rom si-
gilocavT! ulobs _ jer kiCo CaiZireba Tu qimio? sakuTari an sxvisi ukanalis iqiT cocxlis (anu sikvdilis) Semdeg
qimio. maSin ara uSavso. gaixedav Tu ara, gacilebiT ufro se- araferi mogekiTxeba!
* es igavi kacs Cvens dRevandelobas riozul problemebs dainaxav. iqneb esec iwvevs `morwmuneTa~ agre-
es ra lxini gvWirs?! gaaxsenebda, mis gmirebs TviTon rom magitomac ar gviyvars gaxedva. al- siulobas _ gamudmebiT viRacas (vTq-
eCaliCaT im gemis CaZirva; magram isini baT. vaT, RmerTs) umtkiceben, rom sxvebze
* ase gamoSterebulebi an/da aseTi na- ukeTesebi arian...
sami RvTaebrivi saunje dagvrCa Cven Zirlebic ar yofilan. * (ra Tqma unda, am `Teorias~ ver
deda-beboTagan: sacivi, CurCxela, netav, ra jobs xolme: gavavrcelebT cnobil aRmosavlur
gozinayi. * gamovlindes jansaRi protesti Tu religiebze, romlebic adamianis mTa-
ZaRlman gvnaxos _ piri gvkidos. ar gamovlindes mis ukan modaraje var miznad sicocxlis maradiuli wre-
* aTasi svavi da afTari. brunvis tanjvidan TavdaRwevas da sab-
netavi Tqven, visac saqveyno Tu saka- * oloo sikvdils, araraobad qcevas sax-
cobrio problemebi im 9 wlis, am 9 wlis, parlamentiswina adgili dRiurad * aven).
romelime sxva 9 wlis, anu iseTi prob- rom gaqiravdes? siyvaruli, megobroba, patri-
lemebi ggoniaT, romelTa mogvareba 9 centria, msurveli sul aris, biu- otizmi... _ yvelaferi SeiZleba srul- *
weliwadSi SeiZleba. netavi Tqven. jets waemateba, magaTganac rame xeiri fasovan borotebad mogvevlinos. iseve sikvdilis Semdeg sicocxlis vari-
iqneba, muSaoba mainc yvelas gvezare- advilad, rogorc piriqiT. anti _ aris Tu ara simSvidis safuZve-
* ba, da ase... li? oRond varianti im sicocxlisa,
Sen am qveyanas Raribi uZaxe da Tur- * romelSic wina sicocxle ar gvemaxs-
me imdeni zedmeti dovlaTi (rogorc * qveyana, romlis daqcevac mis amden ovreba.
ityvian) aqvs, prezidentis arCevnebis saaqcio sazogadoeba. moqalaqes unda, arc aris gadasarCe- Tu ar gaxsovs, ra mniSvneloba aqvs
or turs Tvaldauxamxameblad Caa- ni. wina sicocxles an sicocxleebs? ase,
tarebs. * demokratiac xom eg aris. dauSvi, rom adrec cxovrobdi _
mere ra, Tu am dovlaTis ukeT ga- gaagrZele saqarTvelos isteria. asjer, aTasjer. mere ra? axla xom sul
nawilebis SemTxvevaSi, yvela gac- * erTia, ramdenjer cxovrobdi adre da
ilebiT kargad viqnebodiT. * sad gamovide da davdge. isic meyo- saerTod, cxovrobdi Tu ara. ver-
nu, bednierebis ra mogaxseno. erTi sityva aRar mjera saqarTve- fa, aq rom vzivar, aq rom gavCndi. damaxsovrebuli sicocxlis Semdeg
los istoriidan. sicocxle _ es xom axali sicocxlea,
* ager, aTas sisaZagles Sevyureb * sxva sicocxle. wina sicocxle am SemTx-
netav, sworad Sefaseba ufro Zne- TvalebSi da mimtkiceben, magari vinc omSi arasdros momkvdarxar da vevaSic kvdeba da im SemTxvevaSic, Tu
lia, Tu saTanadod dafaseba? mec al- rameao. omisken momiwodeb, modi, ga...i, ra. sikvdilis Semdeg aRaraferi arsebobs.
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anu gamodis, sul erTia, roca kvdebi,
sul kvdebi Tu mere xelaxla ibadebi.
maS, ra ganapirobebs sicocxlis gagr-
Zelebas? xsovna wina sicocxlisa. rac,
raRa Tqma unda, ubralod xsovnas ar
niSnavs. es niSnavs, rom Sen igive adami-
ani xar, wina sicocxle Seni warsulia,
Seni nawili. ki magram ra aseTi faseu-
lobaa es xsovna, es Seni warsuli, rom
ver Seelio? gana iSviaTad gvaqvs sur-
vili, rom es Cveni warsuli mxrebidan
movixsnaT, gadasakargavSi movisro-
loT, `Tavidan davibadoT~?..
sabolood ra gamodis? albaT is,
rom didi mniSvneloba ara aqvs, erTi
sicocxlis dasrulebis Semdeg meore
sicocxle iwyeba Tu ara. am sivrceSi
(Tu sibrtyeSi) sikvdili da sicocxle
Tanabaria.
* drebi.
es Tavgawirul winaparTa xsovnac
kai saWoWmano ramea. mgoni, ZiriTadad,
imisTvis aris mogonili, momaval
Taobas rom usayveduro _ iman esa da
es gaakeTa da Sen ar gaxsovs?! ar ici,
vin ariso?!
Sen Tu gaxsovs _ xom ras ambob!
Tavis gawirvis seriozuli kompensa-
ciaa! Tu fiqrob, rom kompensaciaa, eg
calke problemaa _ is Seewira da Sen
gaxsovs _ ra genaRvleba! xolo Tu
maincdamainc monaRvle tipi xar, imis
gamo gqenjnis sindisi, Senc isera rom
gaxsovs da eg xsovna Tavganwirvis ko-
mpensacia ar aris...
mokled, Cemnairi kaci ar moiwyens
_ yvelgan ipovis disharmoniasa da
sadardebels...
* aSkaraa, rom rogorc `politko-
me mainc mgonia, rom geniosebisa da
danarCenebis SobaTa Tanafardoba, sxva
msgavs movlenaTa darad, gadarCenis
albaTobis maCvenebels iTvaliswinebs.
magaliTad, zogi arseba imaze gac-
ilebiT (milionebiT) met kvercxs debs,
vidre am kvercxebis ganviTarebis da
SemdgomSi naSierTa gadarCenis Sansi
arsebobs; adamianebis populacia
badebs met mamrs, vidre mdedrs _ bal-
ansis SesanarCuneblad _ iTval-
iswinebs ra mamrebis daRupvis met al-
baTobas...
hoda, vfiqrob, geniosic meti
ibadeba, vidre saukuneSi erTia (Tu
rogorc aris), magram gacilebiT nak-
lebia maTi gadarCenis, gnebavT, `ge-
niosad gadarCenis~, anu geniosad ga-
momJRavnebis SesaZlebloba.
Tu, ra Tqma unda, ar miviCnevT, rom
WeSmarit genioss es gadarCena-ga-
momJRavnebac moeTxoveba.
* SeuZlebeli gaxdeba.
rac unda cudad JRerdes, Wkviani
da kargi adamiani boRmis wnexisTvis
aris ganwiruli. mas xom waramara
stkenen guls.
is sxvaa _ yvelafris miuxedavad
mxiaruli, gadamdebad xalisiani adami-
ani, `adamianipozitivi~. magas cota
Wkuamxiaruloba sWirdeba.
* gamoyenebis gamoc _ `religia mikrZa-
imedia, adamianTa Soris saukeTe-
soebs ar vicnob.
isic kargi iqneboda, axla marTals
vambobde. amis imedi mainc mqondes.
* Tavis dasaxmareblad unda gamoegone-
adamianebs veRar vxvdebi. SeiZle-
ba es Cemi surviliTac xdeba. Tav-
dacvis meTodia aseTi. anu vxvdebi
mxolod garkveuli mizniT ganwyo-
bil adamianebs, garemoebebisgan
Camoyalibebul adamianebs da a. S. da
SesaZloa, mec minda, mxolod aseTebs
Sevxvde, mxolod es davinaxo maTSi.
TiTqos isini ar arian aseTebi an
iseTebi, ar arian iseTebi, rogorebic
unda iyvnen. an me aRar mainteresebs
es, TiTqos mTeli Cemi gamocdileba
meubneba, rom es sul erTia, azri ara
aqvs, araferi Rirs, imedgacruebis
morigi wyaroa.
ho, me xom vici, rom isini iseTebi
sulac ar arian, rogorebic arian...
literaturuli gazeTi Canawerebi 7
* anebi da religiebi igoneben _ sxva- scdi. zogs winaswar Seatyob, rom ar
zogjer marTla ver vxvdebi, said- dasxva _ keTili Tu boroti mizeziTa mogwons da arc scdi. mokled, im
an maxsovs keTilSobili adamianebi; da mizniT. TamaSebs irCev, romlebic mogwons da
ufro sworad, keTilSobiluri Tvise- im doziT TamaSob, ramdeniTac mogwons
bebi, romlebic, SesaZloa, adamianebs * da ramdenis saSualebac geZleva...
hqondaT; an ase _ keTilSobili Tvise- davijero, ase aravis uTqvams? _ daarqvi cxovrebasac TamaSi _
bebis adamianebSi arsebobis SesaZle- daviRale, wadi Cemgan ufalo. araferi icvleba. misi ubedureba mainc
bloba. nuTu mxolod wignebidan? is aris, rom erTaderTia (am versiiT
mSoblebis Segonebebidan? maswavle- * _ erTaderTi TamaSia) da alternati-
blebis darigebebidan? iqneb yvela problemis saTave sic- va ar gaaCnia.
ocxlis azris Ziebaa; anu imedi, rom is ar mogwons ki ara, verafriT egue-
* arsebobs; da kidev sxva imedebi; magal- bi, magram sxva gza ar gaqvs: an ZaliT,
ra mainteresebs: iTad, imis imedi, rom yvela problemis tanjviT unda iTamaSo (damarcxebebze
sindisi ufro rogori movlenaa _ saTave es ar aris. laparaki aRar aris _ igulisxmeba), an
atavisturi Tu rudimentuli? unda gaecalo moedans da tribunis
* yvelaze Soreul kuTxeSi miikunWo,
* bolos imedi ki ara, imedgacrueba saidanac yvelaze cudad Cans, rac
sindisis qenjna Zalian iSviaTi cx- kvdeba. moedanze xdeba.
ovelia. RamiT gamoRviZebulis Sigan- egeni uerTmaneTod didxans ver (TviTmkvlelobas gamosavlad ar
Si rom yelyelaobs, eg SiSs ufro hgavs. Zleben, verc _ cocxlebi, verc _ mkv- ganvixilav).
*
*
kargad sZinavT janmrTelebs, *
`Tu ginda, iyo bednieri, iyavi~ _
ucodvelebs da usindisoebs. sul ris swavlas vaswrebT sicocx-
davuSvaT, aris am mokle da sxart
leSi da kidev erTi imdeni rom vicocx-
gamonaTqvamSi imdeni simarTle, ram-
* loT, vnaxavT, rom rac gviswavlia, im-
denic aforizms minimalurad moeTx-
mgoni, simarTle kidev ufro obieq- isi udidesi nawili tyuilia.
turad xdeba kidev ufro gamousade- oveba. is xom mainc ufro advilia, ube-
gari. arseboben mxareebi da es sakma- * duri iyo, Tundac es ar gindodes?
risia. demokratiac mxareebis arsebo- vin icis, es yvelaferi mocdenaa. vin
bis uflebis aRiarebaa. vinc gaimar- icis, raRac Zalian mniSvnelovnis ga- *
jvebs, is iqneba gamarjvebuli. bolos keTeba, moswreba SeiZleba, Cven ki vcx- nu gjera SeTqmulebis Teoriebis, nu
_ marTalic. mesame (Tu meramdenec) _ ovrobT. fiqrob, rom yvela Sen winaaRmdeg SeT-
simarTle _ zedmetia. Tumca piriqiTac SeiZleba: raRacis qmula _ adamianebs Senze metad erT-
gakeTebas, moswrebas vcdilobT _ imis maneTic ar uyvarT.
* nacvlad, rom vicxovroT.
ufro mkacradac SeiZleba: *
is dro midis, roca simarTle * yvelafers aitanda kaci, yvelaferi
aravis unda. is dro modis, roca sima- xom aris uamravi TamaSi. scdi erTs, warsulSi an/da momavalSi rom xde-
rTle, ubralod, aRar arsebobs. ar mogewoneba, Tavs daanebeb, sxvas bodes.
reqtulobam~ ukve migviyvana Tavis wil
marazmamde, demokratiac Tavisi _
ufro didi wili marazmisken
migverekeba. paradoqsi uZaxe Sen da,
totaluri `SejibrebiTobis principi~
simarTlis arsebobisTvis Seusabamo
pirobebs qmnis. simarTle ganwirulia
SejibrSi, romelSic gamarjvebisTvis
saWiro berketebi imarjveben. is gan-
wirulia maSinac ki, roca imarjvebs _
raki am drosac, simarTle ki ara, gama-
rjvebisTvis saWiro berketebis sim-
Zlavre Tu simravle imarjvebs da si-
marTle, ubralod, emTxveva mas...
ho, oRond rame ar ifiqroT _ jer
isev demokratad vrCebi.
*
marTlac, adre, bavSvobaSi vin war-
moidgenda simarTlis aseT gasaWirs.
ai, mTlad orjer oris oTxoba ara, ma-
gram eqvsjer cxra rom ormocda-
ToTxmetia, male amisi damtkicebac
*
bavSvobaSi morwmune da crumorw-
mune erTi da igive megona.
raRac-raRacebs bavSvobidan swo-
rad vafaseb.
*
sagulisxmo frazaa _ misi xSiri
lavs~.
religias, mgoni, yovelTvis did-
wilad hqonda da aqvs es funqcia _
rame aukrZalos. Tan, verc ityvi _
ucnauriao _ raki asea. arada, TiTqos
bina adamians religia.
ara, gana gamovricxav, rom SeiZle-
ba akrZalvac daxmareba iyos...
*
gana cotaa, adamianis, adamianis
gonis, sxva arsebebis da araarsebebis
arseboba rom mjera? rom mjera, rom
is dedamiwa, sadac es yvela arseba da
araarseba vcxovrobT Tu vmdebare-
obT, usasrulo sivrceSia gamokidebu-
li da Tavisi RerZisa da sxva ciuri
sxeulebis mimarT gamudmebiT
moZraobs? da kidev mravali aseTi
saswauli rom mjera, cotaa? ho, me
saswaulebi mjera. ar mjera pawawina
ubadruki tyuilebi, romlebsac adami-
8 poezia
zaal
ebanoiZe
Cito, kargi ambavi!
TandaTanobiT ebevreba sigrile niavs
da fexakrefiT moiwevs bindi;
da mzes _ Camavals yvelaze gvian
Tmobs asafreni frinveliviT Semdgari Sindi.
`frinvelni mfrinvaleni qveyanasa zeda~,
`cxovelni wylisa da cxovelni xmelisa~...
dobilo moixdens livliva qedans,
Walebs rom yanCebis farfati Senislavs.
wyalgaRma _ saxnavi da saTesia,
gamoRma _ balaxs Zovs kameCi,
Tvalebi _ dReSi aqvs da naTelSi aqvs,
tani aqvs _ sul mudam RameSi.
qedze nauRlari datyobia, _
bedis am ganaCens mec veli;
ramdenis amtani da damTmobia
Tavisi pirutyvobiT metyveli.
tirifebs foTlebi Secvenia,
movdivar _ Jaltamia soveli;
noes magier me mrcxvenia
axlac am uwyinari cxovelis.
fSanebSi vasakebis orkestria
da tanze Jriamulis samosels
acmeven, landiviT rom momewia
Rame da mdumarebiT maocebs.
Senc am dumilidan amodixar,
bnelSi sanTeliviT minTixar,
zogjer xavsiani qva-lodi xar,
zogjer mgalobeli Citi xar.
Cito, kargi ambavi, Cito, „oqros niskarti!~ _
mudam xelaRmarTuli da mSvidobis mTxovneli _
dRemde ase SemomrCa mSobeli dedis xati,
yvelaze Zvirfasi da yvelaze axlobeli.
usaTauro leqsis samyaro
usazRvroebas Tavis SiSi aqvs,
Tavis yinva da Tavis cxeleba;
majaze xeli ar SemiSvia _
TavTan vujeqi am gaTenebas.
mainc ra xdeba, ratom ar viciT,
ra dros gvemsxvreva tanze begTari;
am wuTebs axla ise ganvicdi,
rogorc ro danis pirze Semdgari.
literaturuli gazeTi
fiqris TanxlebiT mTa-mTa roneba,
dReSi, RameSi ase CarCena;
ra SeuZlia axsnas gonebam
rogorc samyaros gamosarClebam.
es saTnoeba mTvaris saxidan,
RmerTo, aseT dros rogor isesxe;
Cems uneburad far-xmals davyri da
monobis uRels vidgam kiserze.
CaTvlemilia irgvliv midamo,
nislSi fexdafex Sedis lianTxa;
cidan ro azri Camoitano,
miwidan unda kibe miadga.
raRa mekuTvnis `me~- s nawilidan,
Sen ro gekuTvni TiTqmis sruliad;
xelze CitiviT mizis sxivi da
sxivsac damfrTxali Citis guli aqvs.
mze _ sakuTari cecxliT damwvari
da varskvlavebi _ cecxlis mtevnebi;
casac amitom dakravs nacaris
feri _ zogadi Tvalis SevlebiT.
arc dasawyisi, arc dasasruli,
dasabamidan ase ulevi,
samyaro _ `Ze~- ze ufro `asuli~, _
maSasadame, mdedri bunebiT.
saamboreblad xeli miboZe, _
mgonia bagiT sxivebs vexebi;
SiSsa da tkivils varqmev sicocxles,
mozelils cremlis mlaSe SxefebiT.
qudebs ixdian ukve rkoebi
da Semodgomas salams aZleven;
me am dRes Seni umankoebis
gamo Tamamad davenaZleve.
anwli
da tokavs axlac lerwami tborTan _
mesalamure patara mwyemsi;
zamTari midis da TiTqos moTba
da TiTqos ufro gnebdeba leqsic.
xe-kviparosi _ winare kaci,
qali-lotosi _ isic aseve;
`me vin viyavi?!~ _ ikiTxavs anwli
da mokrZalebiT Tavs Segaxsenebs.
fiqri Zaxvelze da fiqri bzeze,
feraferaze _ ferSi nazavze,
jer TiTo-TiTod alageb xelze
da mere TvalSi erTad aTavseb.
iRvreba cidan feradi siTxe,
siTxidan _ Suqi, Suqidan _ Crdili,
jer TiTo-TiTod asxlteba simze,
jamdeba mere da erTad tiris.
da Sedis Cqami, Cqami da bgera
sityvaSi _ rogorc sakuTar saxlSi;
Sors _ wyalSi axlac kankalebs Txmela _
dedinacvlisgan dasjili bavSvi.
xe-kviparosi _ winare kaci,
qali-lotosi _ isic aseve;
`me vin viyavi?!~ _ kvlav gkiTxavs anwli
da mokrZalebiT Tavs Segaxsenebs.
***
gafoTlilia sxeulSi SiSi,
Sen _ ara, magram Tavi momwyinda;
amad modixar xandaxan ZilSi
da Tvalze momdgar kurcxals momwmindav.
Sens gamo roca Cem ambavs vyvebi
(guli aqamdec bevrjer gaCvene),
sityvebiT _ Cemi jiuti ymebiT _
TandaTan javris cixes vaSeneb.
gamoyrili maqvs wiTelad tanze
am dros aqa-iq Zaxvelis buCqi;
da vzivar gamoxunebul xavsze
da javrian Subls uWiravs muSti.
gamdgara sxivze niavi Tvalwin,
niavis kvalze irweva Tiva;
maTovs xandaxan, xandaxan mawvims,
mcxela xandaxan, xandaxan mciva.
grZeldeba ase kviridan kvire
wola eklebze da TavTan omi;
17 - 30 ianvari 2020
rasac ver vambob _ vavaleb `tires~ _
xidad gadebuls or sityvas Soris.
sicarielis wakiTxvis wesiT
modixar roca da karebs giReb,
TandaTan ufro mJRavndeba leqsi _
Cemi galia da Cemi cixe.
qmnida qaosi samyaros models
da poezias _ sityvebis mtveri...
me ki ar vmReri, xandaxan vgodeb,
maSasadame _ vtiri da vmReri.
axali axsna
devs sasTumali _ yinulis lodi
da safeTqelis xmauri bzaravs;
damdgara fexze da Senken modis
kaci ki ara _ dekembris Cala.
cecxlze Semdgari qvabiviT isvris
peplebis Sxefebs balaxis tbori,
da rogorc karavs axuravs isli _
Sen axla Crdili gaxuravs qoris.
da midis Tvalwin mdinare, _ liber
talRas mihyveba sila da xreSi;
ra uneburad awuxeb jibes _
kvlav siRaribe amogdis yelSi.
mainc gixmoben? _ pasuxi gmarTebs
da gulis siTbos gayofa sxvisTvis;
xandaxan dumils aunTeb sanTels
da bagis nacvlad xmaurobs sisxli.
aris wuTebi, rodesac SiSvel
gancdas gacrecil niRabiT malav
da xels xavsisken imitom iSver,
rom Tavis rwmena SesZino balaxs.
ulamazeso...
Sen, momdumari midiodi, mSvenebav TvalTa,
Sen, dedofalo samyarois, gulisTqmav Ramis,
Seni survili
gvirgvinosnis xelmwifur aRTqmas
laJvardebidan macdurebad Seexo lamis.
Sen momdumari midiodi, mSvenebav TvalTa.
mSvenebav TvalTa, Caiqrole, rogorc niavma
da gatacebis idumali koSki amige.
me Seni frTebiT moberili qari meama,
me Seni frTebis wamieri TrTolva gavige,
mSvenebav TvalTa, Caiqrole, rogorc niavma.
mSvenebav TvalTa, Caiqrole samefo yandiT,
sandomiani migyveboda sinaTle rame;
o, RmerTo Cemo, mofarfate foTolad Candi,
xes mowyvetili Semodgomis mTvarian Rames.
mSvenebav TvalTa, Caiqrole samefo yandiT.
***
`yovelgvar Wirze umZafresia
SeRamebebiT avadmyofoba.~
galaktioni
SeRamebebiT avadmyofobas vigoneb,
Senze adre rom didi poeti gasca,
wuxs Seni leqsic da epigrafad striqonebs
pirze iyenebs, rogorc mduRare marcvals.
Semodgomebis Tavze daTeva ineba,
axla zamTrebis Tavze daTevas iwyebs;
quTuToebze _ Tvals rogor moelxineba _
gamobmulia quTuToebze sicxe.
CagTvlems. iRviZeb. Zil-burans Soris xidia.
Zirs mdinarea, Zirs Wrilobaa Ria.
xidze drodadro Winka-kacebi midian
da sasjeliviT Winka-Crdilebi miaqvT.
am dros mgonia, marTla mkerdidan iwyeba
maxris xmauri da mkerdze gidevs xeli;
Wrialebs kari da sarkmlis mina irweva,
xangamoSvebiT mina tiris da mReris.
viRaca ambobs _ `sacecebi aqvs sarecels~ _
ambobs viRaca... da es viRaca Sen xar;
ra saWiroa adge da Rames gaeqce,
Tuki iseve mainc RameSi Sexval.
`ra saWiroa!~ _ vTqvi da koRomac idrova,
SeamWidrova wre da Tavdasxmas eli,
mainc mihyvebi Cemgan xelnakrav kidobans,
sanTlad migiZRvis bnelze damynili bneli.
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qaris wuxili, qaris godeba gecnoba,
gareT Ramea, gareT ZaRlebi yefen,
da ifoTleba sxeulSi rame lencofa
Tu martooba _ avadmyofobis mefe.
dilis negativi
fiTrdeba farda, fiTrdeba farda
da ribi-rabo afxizlebs Tvalebs.
ra gelis gareT, sinaTlis garda
da Citis garda, ra gelis gareT.
ikiTxav aminds da mxolod aminds
da sxvas arafers (CvenSi darCes ro),
da myvinTaviviT amogaqvs tani,
Ramidan riJraJs rom SeaCeCo.
gaRma-gamoRma _ sxvadasxva mxare,
Sekruli ciskris varskvlaviT _ RiliT,
Suqi da Crdili _ aseT dros Tvalebs
iTvinierebs Suqi da Crdili.
erTi Zilidan amosul Relis
xmauri roca midamos TenTavs,
wamohyri sabans aqneul xeliT
da ucxosaviT ubiZgeb Sen Tavs.
da xorxoSela perangi rame
ayveba sxeuls sicivis gamo...
da Senc amitom gaurbi Rames
da dReSi Sesvlas amitom lamob.
dekembris Cala
moxuci moxucs rom etyvis salams,
rom dganan erTad da uTrTiT mxrebi,
Tavs rad maxsenebs dekembris Cala,
naReWi xaris beberi ybebiT.
Turme `ra axlo~ yofila `Sori~,
wuTis ki ara, yofila wamis
soflis simarTle da soflis Wori
anu niRabi dRisa da Ramis.
davRlilvar, niSans iZleva muxli,
majis xmauri da gulis cema,
es yvelaferi, netavi Tu Rirs
leqsis tkivilad da leqsis Temad?
aRar brundeba nasroli tyvia,
wyals wayolili sila da xreSi,
me axla sxivze gamdgari mqvia
da bolo nervi miWiravs xelSi.
es aris wridan asxletis wuTi,
yofna-aryofnis es aris Jami,
mihyveba xmeli foToli TuTis
giorgobisTvis uferul aminds.
davyureb mTidan uferul Walas,
avsebuls Ramis idumal xmebiT...
da Tavs maxsenebs dekembris Cala,
naReWi xaris beberi ybebiT.
samis saTqmeli
vidre amoityvis, Rawvze axatia
(mzeriT Seiswari, elamuriT):
`Cveni asparezi mainc qaRaldia,
TeTri fantaziis melniT Senamuli~.
wvimam daasvela rikulebi,
ukve raxania, gulSi qari saxlobs;
Warbi sijiutiT iyurebi _
rasac gikarnaxebs _ TvaliT dainaxo:
`vardze lokokinis lorwos miagavda,
Tu zols miagavda Citis frTaze~
(frTxilad aaxlovebs suraTs niaRvarTan _
duJmodebuli rom midis gzaze).
wvimiT Seferili xmebi gamoismis,
xaTrad xoSkakalac wauSaSubeSebs.
`morCa, tyveobidan Tavs ver gamovixsniT~_
Tuki miakiTxav _ ase ganugeSebs.
saqme saziaro wasulia
(mec xom gaCenidan bedi meCemeba).
neta, avsulebi axlac gars uvlian
cecxls Tu galenCebul Tvalebs eCveneba.
erTis ki ara da, samis saTqmelia,
`xanma undobarma~ Suqs rom moarida;
am dros Segaxsena Tavi gamTeniam
da mec amovzide tani koSmaridan.
literaturuli gazeTi poezia 9
***
marti iTvlis bolo wuTebs,
iTmens zamTris bolo wyenas,
vaSlis xeebs kvirtebs uTbobs,
uTmobs tyemlebs yinviT tkenas,
yvavilebi vels rom floben,
futkrebs uwyebT guli Zgeras,
siZulvili Cumad qreba, siyvaruli Cndeba jerac.
***
gamabriyva miwis sunma, damaviwya Jami avi,
buCqis ZirSi amosulma iam Semaxsena Tavi,
are trfobis sunma SeZra,
minda mergos Tundac grami,
ar egebis, umisosa wonac ar aqvs yofas dramis,
vxedav, yvela kargad xvdeba _
ra Wirsa varT gamomZvrali,
guli rogor ar galxveba.
Tuki galxva miwa mzrali...
***
rogor ar vTqva locva Cumi: Semivrdome, mariamo,
qariani kldis napirze Cemi Zmebi ariano,
dodo WumburiZe mkvdarma rogor unda SevZlo,
uflisaken ar viaro.
***
saRamoxans dainaxa Tvalman, qveynis darajaman:
***
cxvris magier mgeli Zovda, lamis veli gadaWama,
adriani gazafxuli simSvidis Tesls sulSi Tesavs,
meubnebi: moviZioT, iqneb gvixsnas raRacaman,
wero jer ar mofrenila,
Turme avi Tuki mova, aRarsadac aRar wava,
tbispir bude mzad aqvs welsac,
magram RmerTi Segveweva, Tu cxovrebam gagvawama...
iqve mTa dgas mowyenili _
mdinaris pirs mzeriT mwyemsavs.
***
ejaxeba qari tirifs, dadumebuls braziT arwevs,
***
ver uyurebs caSi arwivs, mTeli zeca Tavze awevs,
rac moxda da rac ar moxda,_ zRapris gogo wiTelquda
glovisaTvis gamoawyves, uRrani tyiT dadis mudam,
daayenes tbis napiras, axla qari erCis nawyens, xan mSieri mgeli mosdevs, xan obobas ablabuda,
ejaxeba, ebrZvis, ustvens, Tvalze Cumad cremli mosdis,
is ki, maRla Tavsac ar wevs... Tu icinis, sevda gudavs,
xan iesos evedreba, xan alahs da xanac budas...
***
cremlis cxeli wyliTa rwyaven ***
vardisa da iis baRebs, cxovrebaa ise mZime, gagsress kidec, dagamcirebs,
gulanSaros sasaxleSi qari sarkmlebs gamoaRebs, asjer mainc agatirebs, Tuki erTxel gagacinebs,
patiosan kacTa sevdas Camoqrolil bedis varskvlavs
melnis tbidan sisxlSi aRrevs, wamierad agacilebs...
hpoveb niRbiT maval Crdilebs,
suliT dablebs, taniT maRlebs,
mec daval da dards vagroveb, ***
giSris Weris mzeriT damRlels, Zewnas arxevs aqac sio alaznispir, alaverdTan,
viTa wvima amRvrevs Sav zRvas, ra sjobs am brge kavkasions,
xvalindelze dardi mamRvrevs. an am taZris galavnebTan
amoCqrolil iis krTomas,
qaris rxevas dalalebTan...
***
rogor unda endos kaci
cru samarTals, brmas da mrudes, ***
keTilsa da borots Soris waSlilia roca zRude, gvian esma daZaxili, atmebs Cumad baZavs Txili,
sxvisi Wiri ar idardos, SeisunTqa gazafxuli, ayvavilda vazic frTxili,
wynarad ijdes Tavis budes, ru axal gziT gahyva biliks _
ar ecados waikiTxos, Zveli daxvda gadaTxrili...
rac mter-moyvrebs gulSi udevs,
ar itiros, mis xalxs didi ocneba Tu gauqurdes.
***
isni dReni ar waSlilan _
*** eli, Sen rom gdevda mdevrad,
ivlisis xodabunebSi mwvane jejili Relavsa, maSinac ki gulanSaro ukeTesi iyo bevrad,
lamazi alaznispiri miwvevs, ver vambob verasa, mermed Caqra imedi da
mze dasaliers mieltvis, hkidia mTebis wverasa, bedisweram klde-Rre gvdevna,
dardi mklavs momakvdavisa, uimedobis mweralsa, va, sofelman, sofels myofni
viTa sicili tirils sjobs, _ bevrni dagvsva cremlTa denad,
vaglaxi mijobs mRerasa... zogsa gvakravs eSafotsa,
zogi SoreTs gamogvdevna,
eSmaksac ki ukvirs ukve, ra codva gvaqvs amodena!..
***
nariyalam mediduri gamoxedva ar ikmara,
metexic wuxs, _ wvimiani dRe awevs da ***
marti qaravs, aewvebaT zurgi qedebs, iseT setyvas wamouSens,
megobrad ar momindoma, Caurbina qarma qalaqs, bedi gviCens wylulebs dRemde,
marto dardi ar momSorda, _ memSobla da
sasikvdilos da mourCens,
medaqala.
magram RmerTi saSvels, mende,
Cvennairsac gamouCens...
***
`gadaixvewe CitiviT Tqvens mTebSi~.
***
fsalmuni 10-1
aRar ZalmiZs aRarc oxvra,
gind wamo da ginda darCi, ar daviwyeb, ici, xvewnas, fiqri fiqrma gadacxrila,
me rom amas geubnebi, ecineba tbasTan Zewnas. sikvdiliviT raRac moxda,
icinos da iseiros, unda Cems mtrebs gadaewnas, magram arvin gardacvlila.
Citis msgavsad movaxerxeb ver gaigebs veravin da, bedi misiT gamoxteba!..
maRal mTebSi gadaxvewas... Sen ra ici, me ra minda, mec ra vici, ra moxdeba...
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literaturuli gazeTi 17 - 30 ianvari 2020

yvelaferi, rac ki goderZi Coxelis saxels ukavSirdeba, TiTqos aucile-

blad unda aRibeWdos maRali sulierebiT da es molodini arasodes cuddeba.
ramdenime weliwadia, arsebobs goderZi Coxelis saxelobis literaturu-
li konkursi (damfuZnebeli da organizatori: irma sanaZe) da ramdeni natifi,
daxvewili teqsti aRmoCnda, sworedac maRalsulierebiT, maradi „wyevla-
krulviani sakiTxav (eb)iT~ aRbeWdili _ TiTqos „suleTis kidobnidan~, sa-
sufevlis mzisferi velebidan eSvelebodes axalgazrda (an araaxalgazrda)
TanamodaseT suli didi mwerlisa, kidev erTxel rom Rirseulad gacxaddes
qarTulad „adamianTa sevda~.
revaz TvaraZe werda esma onianze: `Semoqmedi _ es aris, upirvelesad, su-
lis gacxadeba, mas SemoqmedebiT moaqvs zeciuri samyaros, zesTasoflis
gamocdileba amqveynad, gvaziarebs RvTaebriv simarTles da mSvenierebas...
zecas unda vuTxraT madloba, rom am rangis sulni CamoeSvebian xolme swored
Cvens samSobloSi, saqarTveloSi.~
goderZi Coxelic „gamorCeuli sulia~, `zesTasoflis gamocdilebiT~ da,
ra bednierebaa, rom misi saxelobis literaturuli konkursic amoaCens zesTa-
soflisav gamocdilebas _ naTel, sevdian, daxvewil teqstebs, romelnic meram-
dened gvanugeSeben, rom (Tu guram doCanaSvils davesesxebiT) „Cveni pawia
saqarTvelo msoflios poeziur (ganvavrcoT _ samwerlo) rukaze erT-erTi
didi, Zlevamosili saxelmwifoa~. „mSral ricxvebis amara~ _ konkursantTa
„nomrebis~ miRma teqstebis kiTxvisas vgrZnobdiT (Jiuris Tavmjdomare: ami-
ran arabuli. wevrebi: ioseb WumburiZe, nana kucia) gemovnebian, kulturul
avtorebs, romelTagan mravali aucileblad daamaxsovrdeba qarTvel mkiTxv-
els _ narativis simZafriT, tonebisa da obertonebis gemovnebiani Serwym-
iT...
ganebivrebul qarTvel mkiTxvels arc amjerad gaucuddeba molodini.

I premia
lela cucqiriZe
dRes Cemma biWma mnaxa
_ gamarjoba, qalbatono mzia,
SeiZleba?
_ gamarjoba, _ qalma kompiuters
Tvali moaSora, oTaxis karTan atu-
zul axalgazrda kacs daakvirda, _
gio?
_ miTxres, rom jer TqvenTan mov-
suliyavi, _ uxerxulad gauRima giom.
qali wamodga, miuaxlovda, xeli
CamoarTva:
_ rogorc iqna, gamoCndi. wveri
mogiSvia, Zlivs gicani. rogor xar?
_ ravi. ai, mamaCemTan movedi, _
mxrebi aiwura giom.
_ ramdeni geZebeT, magram veraf-
riT gipoveT. telefoni gaTiSuli
gaqvs... ra misamarTic gvqonda, iq ms-
gavsi aravin cxovrobso...
_ ho, ravi, ase miewyo mokled, _
isev uxrxulad gaiRima giom, _ da ise,
ratom meZebdiT?
_ ratom da... gardaicvala mamaSe-
ni. erTi Tvis win. dedaSenis gverdiT
davkrZaleT. Zalian Rirseuli adami-
ani iyo, Zalian TavdaWerili. acxonos
RmerTma, _ dananebiT Tqva qalma, _
ar maxsovs, am xuTi wlis manZilze, rac
Cvens TavSesafarSi cxovrobda, odes-
me daewuwunos an sayveduri eTqvas. vi-
ziareb...
gio cota xans gaSeSebuli idga,
uceb daudga Tvalwin mama, romelsac
arasdros uTqvams misTvis sayveduri,
deda, romelic masze dards gadahyva,
valebis gamo warTmeuli saxli, valeb-
is gamo momdurebuli naTesavebi, me-
zoblebi, axloblebi...
nana kucia
gio uxmod gavida oTaxidan, mere
uceb mitrialda:
_ qalbatono mzia... 50 lars xom ver
masesxebT? aucileblad gadagixdiT.
_ eeh, gio, gio... _ qalma Tavi gada-
aqnia, _ isev TamaSob, biWo?
_ ara, ra vTamaSob, ramdeni xania,
Tavi davanebe... _ yelSi moawva brazi
gios.
_ batoni gizos nivTebs mogcem, bev-
ri araferia, magram... _ civad uTxra
qalma, oTaxidan gavida, maleve dab-
runda da gios patara, gaquculi Ce-
modani gadasca. giom uxmod gamoarT-
va da Senoba datova.
_ gio! _ moesma qalis xma ukve qu-
CaSi gasuls.
„fuli unda masesxos!~ _ gaifiqra,
swrafad Setrialda.
_ Zalian uyvardi mamaSens, _ qali
ezos WiSkarTan idga.
giom araferi upasuxa. gzas gauyva,
mere TavSesafridan moSorebiT, skver-
Si Camojda, miixed-moixeda, Cemodani
swrafad gaxsna, swrafadve amoqeqa ma-
mis nivTebi, safule, romelSic mx-
olod misi da dedis fotoebi ido.
qudi, qurTuki, Sarvali, oriode per-
angi da moulodnelad Cemodnis
fskerze Tixis patara yulabas mohkra
Tvali.
_ au, jigari xar, ma, jigari! _
oflma daasxa sixarulisgan, yulaba
SeanjRria, yru Sriali moesma.
_ au, rogor miSvele, marTla Se
jigaro! ai, naxav, Tu ar movigeb dRes!
magari sasaflao unda gagikeToT Sen
da dedas...
giom yulaba swrafad daaxeTqa be-
tonis filebs.
mere namsxvrevebs Soris gamalebiT
dauwyo Zebna fuls.
arcerTi kupiura, mxolod rveu-
lis aTiode dakecili furceli, mamis
erTi da imave CanaweriT, sxvadasxva
TariRiT:
„dRes Cemma biWma mnaxa . 2015w. 20 de-
kemberi~.
„dRes Cemma biWma mnaxa. 2016w. 1
aprili~.
„dRes Cemma biWma mnaxa. 2016w. 15 noem-
beri.~
„dRes Cemma biWma mnaxa. 2018w. 1 iv-
lisi...~
dRes Cemma biWma...
Cemma biWma...
mnaxa.
II premia
diana anfimiadi
radio
namdvili ambavi
fereidnuli teqstebidan
...rezos sul ukvirda mamis ucnauri
saqcieli. adgeboda es drouli, dar-
baiseli kaci, Cavidoda ezos boloSi,
xexilis baRsa da bostans Soris, da pat-
ara bavSviviT aqeT-iqiT sirbils daiw-
yebda, Tanac xelebs iqnevda. coli nerv-
iulobda, magram ar imCnevda, aRelvebu-
li gaxedavda xolme qmars, romelic xan
xelebaweuli darboda, xan ucnaurad
gaSeSdeboda, xan miwaze gawveboda da
iwva ase, iwva... ai, balRebma rom gaSeSo-
banas TamaSi ician, ise. sikvdilis win sa-
wolTan mouxmo vaJs, jer akankalebuli,
daleuli, Zvlebamde dasuli, gamWvir-
vale xeliT safeTqelze moefera, mere
Sublze akoca da bolos, saCvenebeli
TiTi sawolTan mdgari patara zardax-
Sisken gaiwvdina, qarTuli asoebi rom
hqonda amotvifruli. rezo miuxvda ma-
mas guliswadils, zardaxSa sawolTan
moutana. ras eloda, vin icis, uZveles
oqros monetebs? werilebs? anderZs?
kidev rames, Zvirfass da Tan saidumlos?
moxucma xeli zardaxSaSi moafaTu-
ra da patara radio amoiRo. arasdros
unaxavs es nivTi rezos mamis xelSi...
patara iyo, daaxloebiT im yuranisxe-
la, mama rom jibiT atarebda. `age, Cadi
qliav-WanWurTano~ _ esRa uTxra mamam
da Tvalebi daxuWa. daxuWa samuda-
mod....
gadaiara mamis gacilebis dReebma.
rezo mamis danatovars inaxavda da gan-
martoebul saaTebs eloda, roca
raRac saidumlo unda gaego, raRac
aqamde ucnobi da amouxsneli. ezos
boloSi, xexilis baRSi Cavida da ra-
dio CarTo, momarTa, SiSini, sparsuli
simRerebi, viRac frangi momRerali,
SiSini, SiSini da raRac nacnobi...
radioiani xeli jer cisken gaiwv-
dina, xma TiTqos daiwminda, magram ara,
sakmarisi ar iyo, mere marjvniv gaiq-
ca, mere marcxniv, mere mindorze wamo-
wolac scada, xma modioda, magram si-
tyvebi ar irCeoda... bolos, ramdenime
bgera erTmaneTs gadaeba da ase, kaci
gaCerda, gaSeSda: `saRamo mSvidobis,
Zvirfaso radiomsmenelebo, lapara-
kobs Tbilisi, dedaqalaqSi Tbili amin-
dia...~ _ ismoda qalis xaverdovani,
lamazi xma...
_ ras akeTeb, rezoo? _ ekiTxebod-
nen mezoblebi, roca ezos bolos ucn-
aurad morbenals xedavdnen.
qliav-WanWurs davdevo _ ase pa-
suxobda.
iranSi radio ucxo xili iyo, ucxoc
da saSiSic.
aravisTvis gaumxelia fereidanSi
daWerili qarTuli xma _ qliav-Wan-
Wuris ucnauri mosavali.
III premia
levan loria
Cemi jorjo
_ ici, vis hgavda Cemi jorjo? rid-
li skotis filmi rom aris, `gladia-
tori~ _ general maqsimuss. rasel
qrou TamaSobs, xo? Cemi jorjoc gen-
erali iyo! Cemi jorjo! ici, rogori
mzera hqonda? rom Segxedavda, dRec
yvela varskvlavs dagiTvlida
TvalebSi! mere Svili gagviCnda, maSin
afrikaSi iyo samSvidobo misiiT. hoda,
ise menatreboda, mis ukiTxavad biWs
jorjo davarqvi. erTi dRisac rom ar
iyo pawia, vexvewebodi, dampirdi, rom
Sen samxedro ar gamoxval-meTqi. bale-
roni mindoda, gamosuliyo. didi jor-
jo gagiJda, ra baleti, Cemi Svili
italiis armiis generali unda
gaxdeso. filmi `qalis surneli~ xom
gaxsovs? al paCino rom cekvavs, is
vanaxe. tango iswavlos, mainc genera-
li gaxdebao _ icinoda... mere gogoc
SegveZina, Cemi jorjo vertmfreniT
mofrinavda RamiT, mSobiarobisTvis
undoda moeswro. amaod velode. var-
skvlavebs Seeria... sami dRis Semdeg
miTxres, rom katastrofa moxda. gogo
axla amerikaSia, viRac Citirekia
amerikel milioners gahyva colad. es
Tmebi sad gaikeTe? stilisti moviwvi-
oT CvenTan! _ siniora, mapatieT, ver
movaswari davarcxna! _ ara, nu mebo-
diSebi, asec gixdeba! ici, Tavidan meS-
inoda badantes, ucxo ojaxSi rogor
SemovuSvi, vdardobdi! axla rogor
SegeCvie! Cemma gogom damireka
amerikidan, Zalian moewone, kargi xma
aqvs da kargi Tvalebio! damana, dam-
anas teqsti damiweros da notebi gad-
momigzavnoso! _ ra damana, siniora?
_ Sen rom mRerodi, damana, damana! _
aa, danama? JuJuna wvima movida? _ xo,
adre mTxova, Senzem video gadauRe,
mainteresebs, rogori gogoao, imasac
eSinoda ucxo adamianis. mere videoSi
rom gnaxa, Zalian moewone. telefoniT
gadagiRe saWmels rom amzadebdi da
17 - 30 ianvari 2020
literaturuli gazeTi konkursi 11
Tan RiRinebdi! ras niSnavs es `jujuna cvima...~ _ ise,
ubralod, wvimis saxelia. _ wvimasac saxeli aqvs
TqvenTan? _ ki, Tan asamde! _ aseT SeCvevas, ar vici,
ra qvia! minda, jorjos SegrTo, bedovlaTi, ojaxze
ar fiqrobs, mxolod armia! _ me gaTxovili var sin-
iora, Svili myavs! _ aki qmari ar myavso! _ qmari
gardamecvala, Cemi meuRlec samxedro iyo, omSi
daiRupa. _ rogor omSi, Sen qveyanaSi axla omia? _
ramdenime wlis win, agvistoSi...
...guli mwydeba rom midixar, ici, Cem jorjos
Zalian moewone?! rom gnaxa, Sen rom ar gagego, Cumad
vkiTxe, aba, Semifase-meTqi da miCurCula, ukve miy-
varso... dRes diliT velaparake. wyins, rom midixar,
ar gauSvao, mTxovs!
_ unda wavide, siniora, _ veubnebi, _ me sami
jorjo myavs misaxedi.
ra gulCvilia, cremlebi mosdis, Tan mekiTxeba: _
2019 wlis miwuruls `mweralTa saxlma~ ori
marTla? vin aris Seni jorjo? mere telefonSi jer
konkursi gamarTa _ gamovlindnen da dajildovd-
gias suraTi vanaxe, erTad varT, omis wina periodia,
nen iakob gogebaSvilis saxelobis sabavSvo da say-
giorgize orsulad viyavi maSin. es Cemi meuRlea, veub-
mawvilo literaturuli premiis laureatebi da
nebi! mere giorgis suraTic, qarTul CoxaSi, Cemi Svil-
eseebis konkursis gamarjvebulebi. es ukanaskne-
ia-meTqi, _ mec vicremlebi. ramxela Svili gyolia
li guram doCanaSvilis 80 wlisTavs mieZRvna.
da mesame jorjo vin ariso. mere xan Tovlian mwver-
valebs vaCveneb, xan zRvis napirebs da mdinareebs, xan
uZveles taZrebs. jer ver mixvda. ukvirs _ aba, sad
aris jorjo? es aris, siniora, _ veubnebi, _ es Cemi
qveyanaa. ucxoelebi Cems qveyanas georgias eZaxian, anu
rogorc Tqven ambobT _ Cemi jorjo...

mowonebuli moTxroba
xaTuna saxvaZe
sarevela
_ vin var?
ar vici, isic ar vici, saidan da rogor movxvdi
am lamaz baRSi, Cems irgvliv uamravi lamazi yvavil-
ia, me maTi silamaziT vxarob, Sevcqeri maT da Tavi
mec lamazi mgonia.
`radgan ufalma am lamaz adgilas moisurva Cemi
gaCena, ese igi, CemSidac aris silamaze~ _ SevZaxeb
xolme Tavs da vcdilob gaviRimo.
ar vici, rogor movaxerxe, magram mebaRis siyvaru-
li movipove, imis magivrad, rom Tavisi mSvenieri
yvavilebidan amoveZirkve, mec maTsaviT mivlis. wyals
misxams. mec vcdilob, lamazad gamoviyurebode.
_ naxeT, ra lamazi yviTeli yvavili gamovitane?
_ magram Cveni mebaRis garda mas veravin amCnevs.
_ es sarevela moaSore aqedan, _ etyvian xolme,
_ sad naxe sarevelas silamaze? Zirianad amoZirkve,
Tore gaisad mTel baRs moedeba da....
isini fiqroben, rom Cemi moSoreba Znelia. iqneb
marTalnic arian.
ucnauri ram damemarTa, Semiyvarda! ho, me, sareve-
las Semiyvarda da iciT vin? bulbuli. vici, gai-
cinebT, sad Sen da sad bulbulio, magram Semiyvar-
da, ise Semiyvarda, rom mis garda verafers vamCnev-
di. Cemi dRe masze fiqriT iwyeboda da Ramdeboda.
vicodi, rom yovel diliT Cvens baRSi mofrindebo-
da da did dros dahyofda aq. misi galobiT guls
gvixarebda da mec Sevxarodi, Tavs vawonebdi. gageci-
naT xom, sad sarevela da sad Tavis mowoneba. albaT
isic ase fiqrobda. gvian, Zalian gvian SevamCnie misi
aq xSirad stumrobis mizezi. Cems gverdiT wiTeli
vardi Sehyvareboda da mas stumrobda. ar mkiTxoT,
ra vigrZeni, es rom gavige.... maSin pirvelad vinatre
gaqroba, sakuTari grZnobebis Semrcxva da msurda,
adgilze CavenTqe miwas.
netav genaxaT, ra kargi sanaxavebi iyvnen isini
erTad. dameTanxmebiT, rom marTlac erTmaneTisTvis
gauCenia es ori arseba RmerTs. maTi siyvaruli mTel
baRs alamazebda, yvela maT Sehxaroda, maT Soris mec.
siyvaruli niWia, ixaro sxvisi bednierebiT da gt-
kiodes misi tkivili.
ar arsebobs imaze ufro lamazi siyvaruli, rogoric
ori srulyofili arsebis siyvarulia.srulyofili siy-
varuli maradiulic unda iyos, magram erT dResac Cems
Tvalwin daWkna lamazi sicocxle, Camouvarda vards
ukanaskneli foToli... im dRes imaze saSinlad vigrZeni
Tavi, vidre maSin, roca aRmovaCine, rom arasodes Semiy-
varebdnen da Cemi siyvaruli upasuxo darCeboda.
vuyureb, rogor itanjeba bulbuli, rogor
Rvris cremls misi sayvareli arsebis gamo da saku-
Tar Tavs vwyevli. me, sarevela, vagrZeleb sicocx-
les, visac aravin hyavs, vinc aravis sWirdeba, lamazi
vardi ki romelsac Cemi siyvaruli Sehxaroda, aRar
arsebobs.
arasodes CaTvaloT saSinelebad sayvareli ar-
sebis sxvis gverdiT bednierad yofna. saSinelebaa,
rodesac mas ubedurs xedav.
giyvardeT, adamianebo _ Tqven ufalma siyvaru-
lis niWi mogmadlaT... giyvardeT uangarod.
me, sarevelam, SevZeli siyvaruli da Tqven gagi-
WirdebaT?
ixareT sxvisi bednierebiT da gtkiodeT sxvisi
tkivili...
iakob gogebaSvilis premia
zogadad, arerTxel aRiniSna, Tu raoden mniS-
vnelovania premia, romelic momavali TaobisTvis
Seqmnil literaturas exmianeba. swored amiT iyo gan-
pirobebuli iniciativa, romelic 2017 wels ganxor-
cielda, roca `mweralTa saxlma~ pirvelad umaspin-
Zla iakob gogebaSvilis saxelobis sabavSvo da say-
mawvilo literaturul konkurss. konkursSi monaw-
ileobis ufleba hqonda 2018 wels gamocemul wignebs,
piesebsa da inovaciur sabavSvo proeqtebs.
amjerad 54 wignidan, 6 inovaciuri proeqtidan
da 1 piesidan Jiurim (lela cucqiriZe, giorgi Wau-
WiZe, paata papava, Tamar kviJinaZe da Tamri fxakaZe)
saukeTeso prozauli wigni (ymawvilTaTvis 13+)
saukeTesod aravin miiCnia, amave nominaciaSi 3-6 wlis
bavSvebisTvis gamarjvebulad Tea Tofuriasa da so-
nia eliaSvilis `wyaldidoba zooparkSi~ (gamomcem-
loba `Edition Orient~), xolo 7-12 wlis asakis mozard-
ebisTvis vasil guleuris `miko da rei~ (gamomcem-
loba `qarTuli~) daasaxela.
2019 wlis iakob gogebaSvilis premiis laureate-
bi gaxdnen:
saukeTeso poeturi wigni
givi CiRvinaZe `mTebis da tyeebis ambebi~ (gamom-
cemloba `cisieri~);
saukeTeso debiuti
giorgi masxaraSvili (nils simeoni) `14 kristal-
is Teoria~ (`sulakauris gamomcemloba~)
saukeTeso sabavSvo dramaturgia
aleqs CiRvinaZe `daTvi tyeSi brundeba~;
saukeTeso Targmani
cico xocuaSvili _ jerom k. jeromi `samni navSi
ZaRls Tu ar CavTvliT~ (`sulakauris gamomcemlo-
ba~);
saukeTeso ilustrirebuli wigni
3-6 wlis patarebisTvis
sonia eliaSvili `wyaldidoba zooparkSi~ (gamom-
cemloba `Edition Orient~);
7-12 wlis mozardebisTvis
olesia TavaZe _ sulxan-saba orbelianis `Zala
erTobaSia~ (gamomcemloba `sezani~).
sabavSvo-saymawvilo inovaciur proeqtad Jiuris
wevrebma mariam wiklaurisa da nino CxikvaZis
satelevizio proeqti `klubi do~ miiCnies, xolo sa-
bavSvo literaturaSi gaweuli RvawlisTvis jildo
poet mzia Cxetians gadaeca.
eseebis konkursi
ufrosklaselTaTvis
`mweralTa saxlma~ saqarTvelos sajaro da ker-
Zo skolebis ufrosklaselTaTvis eseebis konkursi
guram doCanaSvilis 80 wlis iubiles aRsaniSnavad
gamoacxada. IX-XII klasis moswavleebs konkursis wese-
bis Tanaxmad guram doCanaSvilis Semoqmedebis mixed-
viT `mweralTa saxlis~ mier SeTavazebuli sami Temi-
dan (karceri-luqsi – ocneba wignis moyvarul-
TaTvis _ `kaci, romelsac literatura Zlier uy-
varda~; gza mwyemsobidan vaterpolomde _
`vatre(po)loo anu aRdgeniTi samuSaoebi~; Cemi say-
vareli nawarmoebi guram doCanaSvilis Semoqmede-
bidan) erT-erTi unda waredginaT.
`mweralTa saxlis~ TanamSromlebiT dako-
mpleqtebulma Jiurim 500-ze meti naSromidan 12
saukeTeso SearCia da, Sesabamisad, sami premia da
cxra wamaxalisebeli prizi gasca.
I premia
Tea WeliZe _ ninowmindis municipalitetis
sofel orlovkis sajaro skola;
II premia
givi mirziaSvili _ mcxeTis pirveli sajaro sko-
la;
III premia
ana SamaTava _ xobis municipalitetis sajijaos
pirveli sajaro skola.
wamaxalisebeli prizebi
(`altasa~ da `biblusis~ 100lariani vauCerebi)
gadaecaT:
erekle xoxiaSvils _ Terjolis raionis qveda
simoneTis pirveli sajaro skola; naTia beriZes _
xulos municipalitetis tunaZeebis sajaro skola;
zaruhi aTorakalians _ ninowmindis municipalite-
tis sofel ganZis rusTavelis saxelobis me-2 saja-
ro skola; vaxtang gamcemliZes _ Tbilisis 72-e sa-
jaro skola; roland xarabaZes _ xulos munici-
palitetis sofel berbukis sajaro skola; daria
strukovas _ ninowmindis raionis sofer orlovkis
sajaro skola; mariam maxvilaZes _ goris me-12 sa-
jaro skola; giorgi xvedeliZes _ WiaTuris me-2
sajaro skola.
ufrosklaselebsa da maT qomagebs `mweralTa sax-
lma~ dekembris bolos umaspinZla. aRsaniSnavia, rom
dajildoebis ceremonials qarTlis saokupacio
zolis cxra soflis moswavleebi eswrebodnen.
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giorgi lobJaniZis poeturi kre-
buli _ `sizmris nangrevebi~ (redaq-
tori _ rostom CxeiZe; aleqsandre
orbelianis sazogadoebisa da `Cveni
mwerlobis~ gamocema; 2019) iwyeba
leqsiT, romelsac hqvia _ `poezia _
Cemi religia~. am leqsis dasawyisSi
vkiTxulobT:
poezia religia ki ar aris,
rom mogatyuos,
ararsebul sivrceebSi
Segiyolios...
vidre cocxlob,
sicocxle rom aRar gacalos,
giTxras, eg ra sicocxlea,
mokvdebi da yvelaferi mere iwyeba:
moyvavile baRebic da
cecxlis burburic,
siyvarulic mere,
mere,
roca mokvdebi,
roca sulze eg sxeuli
aRar gecmevaT,
kocnas ambori daerqmeva,
xvevnas _ alersi...
Semdeg ki, cota qvemoT, ramdenime
striqonis mere, poeti wers:
erTaderTi poezia ar merideba,
sadac waval, Tan damyveba _
Cemi TaviviT...
momavliT ki ar manugeSebs,
awmyos maxarebs,
wamierad
rogoric var,
iseTs mireklavs,
arasodes ar gamirbis
sxvebis sircxviliT...
Semdeg avtori aRwers amqveyniur
mSvenierebas, gveubneba, rom `am mind-
orSi yvavilebi / mduRaresaviT
moifrqvevian, / patar-patara / say-
vareli geizerebi...~, wers aseT
striqonebs: `me es mduRare
wyarosTvalebic / yvelafrad myofnis,
/ poezia, / axlandelidan rom moCux-
Cuxebs, / embaziviT, / wuTiers rom naT-
lavs Tavis mduRarebaSi... / is ar
matyuebs / da cxovrebas ki ar mivadebs,
/ pirdapir da axlandelSi Tqma emar-
jveba...~
da mkiTxvels dasawyisSi eqmneba
STabeWdileba, rom am leqsSi religia
da poezia aris erTmaneTTan dapiri-
spirebuli, rom es Cveulebrivi anti-
religiuri leqsia, ibadeba ganwyo-
bileba, rom avtori aTeistiviT wers,
rom momavali sulieri samyaros imed-
iT ki ar unda suldgmulobdes adami-
ani, aramed dRevandeliT unda datk-
bes, amqveyniuri samyaroTi unda gaix-
aros, rom miwieri samoTxe unda arCios
zeciur edemze ocnebas da rom adami-
anisaTvis am miwieri netarebis miniWe-
ba mxolod poezias ZaluZs; magram,
vinc giorgi lobJaniZes kargad ic-
nobs, man mSvenivrad icis, rom avtori
arc aTeistia, arc gasuli saukunis 20-
ian wlebSi arsebul `mebrZol uRmer-
ToTa kavSiris ideebiT~ yofila odes-
me gatacebuli da arc `mecnieruli
komunizmis~ msoflmxedvelobas
daupyria misi yuradReba; vinc ax-
lodan icnobs avtors da mis Semo-
qmedebas, isic icis, rom Sinaganad re-
ligiuri adamiania am striqonebis av-
tori da leqsis kiTxvisas moelis, rom
sadme raime iseTs ityvis, rom Tavidan
Seqmnili STabeWdileba gaqarwyldes
da, roca bolo taepebs gaecnoba mkiTx-
veli, darwmundeba, rom marTlac ase
xdeba, gaigebs, rom ar aris poezia da
religia am leqsSi erTmaneTTan dapir-
ispirebuli, piriqiT _ msgavsebas xe-
davs maT Soris poeti, leqsi ase srul-
deba:
is ar matyuebs
da cxovrebas ki ar mivadebs,
pirdapir da axlandelSi
Tqma emarjveba...
meubneba:
visac eli,
uTuod
mova,
oRond axla _ ara,
axla nu elodebi:
mere,
mere,
mere,
literaturuli gazeTi
goCa kuWuxiZe
`poezia _ Cemi religia~
roca Tvalebs daxuWav,
roca sulerTi gagixdeba,
mova Tu ara...
roca ionja ayvavdeba udabnoebSi...
ase rom, poetis Tanaxmad, poeziac
momavalSi gvpirdeba bednierebis wiaR-
Si Sesvlas, isic ocnebis samyaroa da,
faqtobrivad, am mxriv, arc gansxvavde-
ba religiisgan, morwmune sulier edems
elis da poeziiT STagonebuls ki `ud-
abnoebSi ionjas ayvavebis imedi asazr-
doebs~, morwmune Tu sulierad
grZnobs angelozTa wiaRebs da mermis-
Si maT gverdiT davanebis imedi aqvs,
poets is cecxli axarebs, is `yvavile-
bi aniWeben bednierebas, romlebic am
mindorSi moifrqvevian mduRaresav-
iT~, magram sabolood poetic imave
pasuxs Rebulobs poeziisgan, rasac
morwmune _ religiisgan, _ poeziac
imaves eubneba bednierebaze meocnebe
adamians: _ `mere, / mere, / mere, / roca
Tvalebs daxuWav~... giorgi lobJaniZe
am leqsiT religias ki ar upirispird-
eba, aramed erT planSi ganixilavs poe-
ziasa da religias, gveubneba, rom ms-
gavsad iqceva orive, gvagebinebs, rom
es wuTieri sofeli saboloo netare-
bas mainc ver mianiWebs adamians da isev
momavlisaken rwmena aris is, ramac
unda gvasazrdoos sulierad da gagva-
Zlebinos am qveyanaSi, verc poezia da
ver religia ver mogvitans wuTi-
sofelSi netarebas da isev momavlis
rwmenisaken unda aRivsos Cveni arseba,
raTa cxovreba SevZloT...
yovelive zemoTqmulis Semdeg
mivcem Tavs uflebas da vityvi, rom
antireligiuri ki ara _ swored rom
religiuri leqsia Cven winaSe, oRond
es religiuri `qadageba~ ara tradici-
uli formiT, aramed originaluradaa
warmodgenili, mTeli leqsis saTqmel-
is sworad gaazrebis Semdeg ukve
sruliad gansxvavebuli saxiT aRiqme-
ba leqsis pirveli striqonebi: _ `poe-
zia religia ki ar aris, rom
mogatyuos~ _ vxedavT, rom Sinagani
ironiaa aq, me vityodi, rom es sityvebi
erTgvari `Sepasuxebac~ aris
aTeistebTan, kamaTia maTTan, visac mi-
aCnia, rom `religia gvatyuebs~, rom
`xalxis opiumia~ igi da sxvadasxva, iqm-
neba STabeWdileba, rom poeti im adami-
anTan CarTula kamaTSi, vinc eubneba,
rom `ityueba religia~ da mxolod poe-
ziaa WeSmariteba, ironiuli ganwyo-
bilebiT hyveba mas saubarSi, TiTqos ase
pasuxobs _ `kargi batono, poezia ar
gvatyuebs, misi yvavilebi mduRaresav-
iT gvefrqvevian da gvanetareben~ da
bolos ki, TiTqos, moulodnelad
mware simarTles miaxlis am mokamaTes
_ poeziisganac mxolod imedebs mi-
iReb, es `religiac~ imaves getyvis,
rasac sxva geubneba: `mere, / mere, / mere,
/ roca Tvalebs daxuWav~...
giorgi lobJaniZes, SesaZloa, gan-
kiTxva moundomon iseTma morwmuneeb-
ma, romlebic zedapirulad waikiTx-
aven am leqss, amitom, vimeorebT,
sworedac rom religiuri leqsia Cven
winaSe, _ originaluri formiT mo-
wodebuli... religia da poezia erT
konteqstSia warmodgenili, erT
daupirispirebel ganuyoflobadaa
warmodgenili, WeSmariti poezia rom
religiis nawili xdeba xolme da sulis
macocxlebeli sazrdoa, es ukve iseTi
WeSmaritebaa, romelsac bevrjer game-
oreba aRar sWirdeba, religiis ganuy-
ofeli nawilia himnografia, dantes
poezia da, yvelafers rom Tavi dav-
aneboT, daviTis fsalmunebi (daviT
mefsalmune erTdroulad didi
winaswarmetyvelicaa da didi poetic,
albaT swored fsalmunebSi Cans yve-
laze ukeT religiisa da poeziis ganuy-
oflobac da siaxlovec...), poezia rom
religiasaviT marTla imediT avsebs
adamians da sicocxlis Zalas aZlevs,
arc amas sWirdeba bevrjer gameoreba,
poezias SeuZlia, rom angelozTa
wiaRebSi Seiyvanos adamiani sulierad,
cocxlad agrZnobinos maRali samya-
ro, zogjer aq, am qveyanaSi gagrZnobi-
nos is ubralo adamianuri siTbo,
romelic zeciur wiaRebSi zeaRsvlis
winapirobaa...
giorgi lobJaniZis poeziisaTvis
erTi ram aris damaxasiaTebeli, _ po-
eti Zalian sufTa, namdvili da pirda-
piri, gulwrfelia; SeiZleba asec iTq-
vas _ qarTleli kacis sialalesac
vxedav mis leqsebSi da aseTi ubraloe-
ba ki im sulier sawyisebs agrZnobinebs
adamians, romelSic araferi imaleba,
romelSic adamiani Tavisi namdvili
sulieri saxiT Cndeba... giorgi ise
wers, gegoneba, sulierad miaxlebia im
samyaros, romelSic angelozebi da
marTali adamianebi cxovroben,
romelSic araferi imaleba, pozas,
niRabs, Zala ekargeba da adamianebi
gaSiSvlebuli sulebiT arian warmd-
garni RvTisa da erTmaneTis winaSe...
poeti upirvelesad swored amiT
gvagrZnobinebs sulier wiaRebs, es ne-
tarebasac ganacdevinebs adamians,
radgan sulieri samyaros realurobas
ufro Zalumad vgrZnobT da iqneb zo-
gierT SemTxvevaSi Sinagani SiSis Seg-
rZnebasac badebs, radgan Segvaxsenebs,
rom erT dros yvelas mogviwevs im
wiaRSi moxvedra, verafers rom ver
damalavs adamiani... giorgi lobJaniZe
niRbis CamoSorebas cdilobs da ase
wers.
upirvelesi, rac piradad me mis
leqsebSi mxvdeba Tvals, is gulwr-
felobaa, romlis miRweva Zalian Zne-
lia da romlis Zala mxolod Sinaga-
nad marTal da patiosan adamianebs
SeswevT, niRbis gareSe wera visac swa-
dia, yvelam unda gadadgas nabiji pa-
tiosnebisaken, Torem, rogori origi-
naluri Sedareba Tu metaforac unda
moifiqros, ise namdvili xelovneba ver
Seiqmneba...
giorgi lobJaniZe umetes SemTx-
vevaSi uriTmo leqsiT gvesaubreba da
es ki ufro advilad amJRavnebs adami-
anis suls, riTmas da musikas sxva mx-
ares gadaaqvs mkiTxvelis yuradReba,
uriTmod weris dros ki ufro aSkarad
Cndeba avtoris suli, aq advilad
araferi imaleba da, Tu sufTa ar aris
adamiani Sinaganad, is xSir SemTxvevaSi
verc gabedavs uriTmod weras... gior-
gi ise wers, ggonia, Cveulebriv, yofiT
cxovrebaSi, adamianur urTierTobeb-
Si amkvidrebs poezias, xan Tavis me-
gobar _ Tazo vaCnaZes gvacnobs am si-
tyvebiT: _ `iseTi kargia Cemi me-
gobari, / iseTi mSvidi / da araamqvey-
niuri, rogorc / sityvebi: / `bednieri
siyvaruli~ (Zalian gulwrfeli rom ar
iyo adamiani, ase ver dawer)... xan Tavis
maswavlebelsa da ufros kolegas:
nino kaxianze gvesaubreba amgvarad
amjerad ukve riTmiani leqsiT: `iciT
ra aris, barbiTi? / ara? / codnac ar
varga uxvi da Warbi, / musikaluri aris
sakravi, / morkalulia viT mTvaris
warbi. / sulia yvela Seyvarebulis, /
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ostati farul sxivebis gabmis, / iqiT
sxivia, / SuaSi ori gulia bambis, / bar-
biTi kvnesis da ucxod lambavs / Cveni
frTxiala gulebis ambavs~ da am
striqonebiT xatavs sulier da fiz-
ikur mSvenierebas, romelic musikasav-
iT iRvreba adamianisgan; visac nino
kaxianTan hqonia urTierToba (Cemi
studentobisdroindelebi ufro qal-
batoni flora anTiZis saxeliTa da
gvariT rom vixseniebdiT), dameTanxme-
ba, rom mis dasaxatavad marTlac
Zalze zustad aris moZebnili es sity-
va `barbiTi~, romelic morkalur mT-
varesac agonebs poets da romlis Tbil
xmas aRmosavlur bgeraTa samyaroSic
gadahyavs msmeneli da ase uxdeba qal-
batoni ninosaTvis, arabuli enis mas-
wavleblisa da Tavisi mSvenierebiTa da
sisadaviT cnobili adamianisadmi,
miZRvnil leqss.
sxva leqsSi borena jaWvlians ig-
onebs giorgi lobJaniZe da isev Zalian
gulwrfeli sityvebi, amjerad ukve me-
gobris datireba gvesmis leqsidan:
`Cems megobars ki sul aravin ar darCe-
nia... / arc da tiroda / da arc vinme
naTesavTagan. / mxolod SeSlili po-
etebi, / romelTagan erTma sulac ase
itira: / `sadRa vnaxav Sens briala
lamaz Tvalebso~;
xan Tavis megobars ekamaTeba,
TiTqos eCxubeba kidec, iago xviCias,
romelmac, rogorc Cans, sofelSi
mSobliuri saxlis gayidvaze Camoug-
do sityva: `es xeebi mamaCemis dar-
gulia, / yvavilebi dedaCemis gaxare-
buli / da veravin erT xesac ki ver ga-
dargavs / Cemi miwidan... / sinamdvile-
Si, / aq yvela xe aris taZari, / sadac
RamiT qari loculobs / da Tavze
jiRad exurebaT / varskvlavebis kan-
delabrebi... / arc gasaberi taZrebis
mwams, / arc roboti mRvdlebis... / me
mwams mxolod cocxali RmerTi, /
romelic zamTris jvarze gakruli, /
gazafxulze baiebad amoanaTebs / da
enZelebis xels damiqnevs / megobariv-
iT...~, am sityvebidan kargad Cans, rom
religiaSi farisevloba da misi usic-
ocxlod aRqma ar moswons da namdvil
religiurobas, romelic, gulmxur-
valed aRsrulebuli liturgiis gar-
da, yoveldRiur ubralo urTierTo-
bebSi mJRavndeba, arafers erCis gior-
gi, erCis ki ara, swored es aris misi
sicocxle, am Cveulebrivi urTierTo-
bebis dros modis adamianTan xan Rmer-
Ti da xanac _ eSmaki da uxsnis me-
gobars, rom ar daTmobs, ar gayidis im
saxls, romelSic gaizarda, mere ki
imasac vxedavT, rom megobaric is aris,
vinc ar iyideba, ar sxvisdeba, ar daiT-
moba im adamianis mier, visTanac marT-
la axloa RmerTi: `Senica mwams, / rad-
gan Cemi megobari xar, / amitomac: ver
gagyidi, / radgan mudam aris raRac, /
rasac fasi ar daedeba, / ar gasxvisde-
ba, / ar gaCuqdeba / am miwasaviT...~;
miSo dadians mimarTavs pirdapir
gulidan momavali, Zalian ubralo,
sityvebiT gadauWarbebeli frazebiT:
`xandaxan ase mgonia, / rom Cemi Svili
xar / da minda, giTxra: / xeebi totebs
rom giqneven, / Tavisaken migixmoben, /
rom mogeferon...~;
eka kvicians ase uxasiaTebs Tavs:
`mTasaviT var, / CemTan yofna mosawye-
nia. / didxans cxovreba CemSi _ / TiTq-
mis SeuZlebeli. / mxolod sezonze maw-
ydebian / ramdenime dRiT, / aparatebs
aCxakuneben, / selfisaTvis ipranWebi-
an / vnebianad Tvalminabul- / tuC-
mowkurulni... / [...] da Sen / rogor xar /
erTaderTi, / uhaerobas gamoqceuli,
/ turistiviT rom ar amosulxar, /
haers daeZeb / da ambob: / arsad aRar
waval! / me SenTan vrCebi!~ ilia Wav-
WavaZiseuli `goeTesaviT~ `miuwvdome-
li mTa~ namdvilad ar aris giorgi, _
araTu miuwvdomelia, _ TviTon modis
adamianebTan, leqsebiT, Tavisi krebu-
liT modis maTTan da ubralod, pozis
gareSe, marTla poeturi urTierTo-
biT cdilobs CvenTan saubars, poezia
misTvis mxolod Soreul sferoebSi
qrolva araa _ Cveulebrivi adamia-
nuri urTierTobac aris igi misTvis da
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am poeziis damkvidrebas eswrafis cx-
ovrebaSi;
mzia koWlavaSvili, SesaZloa, nan-
axic ar hyavdes mkiTxvels, magram,
roca giorgi lobJaniZis am sityvebs
waikiTxavs: `wuxel, sizmris fanjara
rom gamovaRe, / iqidan Sen Semoxvedi /
sufTa haeriviT...~, erTbaSad keTilad
ganewyoba leqsis adresatis mimarT, am
leqsiT ucbad imasac xvdebi, Tu ra
unda iyos erT-erTi mizezi imisa, `sizm-
ris nangrevebSi~ rom hqvia krebuls, _
sizmriseul xilvaTagan zog suraTs
mZafri kvali dautovebia poetis sul-
Si, imasac fiqrob, rom Zalian didi da
realuria es poeturi samyaro,
walkotebi da ulamazesi Senobebi dgas
masSi da aq ki, am fizikur qveyanaSi cx-
ovrebisas, aq gamoRviZebulT, Tu piri-
qiT, wuTisofliseul miraJebSi
CaZinebulT, mxolod calkeuli namsx-
vrevebi gvaxsovs im sufTa wiaRisa,
`sizmrad~ rom esaxeba poets da swored
es `namsxvrevebi~, es `nangrevebi~ qmnis
da aSenebs am qveyanaSi, am wuTisofel-
Si, patar-patara Senobebs, romlebsac
poeturi krebulebi hqvia... am wignis
saTauris axsna sxvagvaradac SeiZleba
da poeziis idumaleba, cxadia, isic
aris, rom erTmniSvnelovnad ver gani-
marteba masSi yoveli...
zabine Sifners ase mimarTavs: `me
miyvars Seni germania... / mTeli erTi
TviTmfrinavi / poetebi Camogiyvane...
/ vinc Sen ginda, amoirCie, /mze-
sumzirav, / rainis piras amosulo~... da
am leqsis adresatSi sul ramdenime si-
tyvidan ukve vxedav adamians, romel-
ic Turme sandoa _ mas WeSmariti da
yalbi poeziis garCeva ZaluZs, vxedav,
rom Zalian uyvars igi leqsis avtors,
TiTqos aRmosavluri, muxambazuri
kiloc ki dahkravs am sityvebs: `mze-
sumzirav, / rainis piras amosulo~,
meCveneba, rom `Sirazis vardi~ `rainis
mzesumziriT~ Seucvlia aRmosavluri
leqsebiT nasazrdoeb poets da im
qarTleli kacis xmac momesmis, romel-
sac Zalian gulRiad metyvelebis
uflebas aZlevs sxeulSi gamjdari es
pirdapiri da Zalian Tamami qarTluri
suli, romelic zogjer Tavisi alali
bunebidan gamomdinare ise gaxsnilad
metyvelebs, rom bevrs albaT eSinia
kidec _ Cemzec ar daweros leqsi da
raime iseTi ar miTxras, an saqebari, an
saZagebeli, rom mere uxerxulad vi-
grZno Tavio...
irinesaTvis, anu meuRlisTvis,
miZRvnilia leqsi, romelsac `pepleb-
is sasaflao~ hqvia _ es leqsic
qarTluri sialaliT iwyeba da iumor-
is ganwyobiT avsebs adamians: `rogor
momwonda es WaRi, / rac colma iyida /
da oTaxSi Tavis xeliT Camomikida, /
radgan am mxrivac, _ vaRiareb, _ cudi
qmari var, / ufro metic, saerTodac
xelTupyari var, / saxlSi verc onkans
SevakeTeb / da verc karadas, / guliT
ki minda gavakeTo saqme, / arada, / xeli
vera cnobs kalmis garda / vercerT
iaraRs~, Semdeg am leqsSi sityvebi nel-
nela metaforul mniSvnelobas iZenen,
sevdis Suq-Crdilebic Cndeba da mkiTx-
vels araerTgvarovani ganzogadebi-
saTvis ganawyoben: `magram wuxelis
Sevxede da aRmovaCine, / rom is / pep-
lebis sasaflaod gadaqceula... / da
ukve WaRi ki ara da / metaforaa / Cemi
gulisa~... da poeti gveubneba, rom misi
guli mudam bnelSi anTia, rom am guls
briyvi peplebiviT Tavs evlebian oc-
nebebi da amaod ixocebian, Semdeg wers,
rom `sakuTar sulSi CaZiruli~ verc
ki amCnevs am ocnebebis cekvasa da `gar-
TigarTias~ da bolos ase amTavrebs
leqss: `maSin, / roca me / mzad var, /
quCaSi, / nagvianev mgzavrs Tu dasWir-
da, / bnelSi gabmuli / gadarCenas Tuki
inatrebs, / mSvelel sinaTled daviR-
varo / Cemi fanjridan / da viyo ase _ /
am cxovrebis fuWi sinaTle...~; iqmneba
STabeWdileba, rom leqsis analizisas
SegviZlia sufizmsa da `Samir-farva-
nianis~ Temas mivmarToT, Tumc Tavise-
buri `sufizmia~ Cven winaSe, vxedavT,
rom _ sinaTlisaken ltolva ki ar
spobs da anadgurebs am SemTxvevaSi ad-
literaturuli gazeTi recenzia 13
amians, aramed TviTon iRvreba igi si- rixin-rixiniT...~ anda es leqsi vnaxoT: wvrilmanSia mSveniereba Semaluli da
naTled sxvebisTvis, sxvebs unaTebs Cab- `tabu~: `ai, babu! / es aris / tabu!~ aq im `zaris xmisken~ gadagdis yuradRe-
nelebul gzas... ubralod unda gaiRimo, gaxalisde da ba, romelsac `tyis gumbaTidan~ erTi
sityva `fuWi~ am SemTxvevaSi ufro mere, Tu survili gaqvs, SegiZlia se- pawia SaSvi gvawvdenda (yvavilebTan er-
daeWvebaa imis mimarT, sWirdeba Tu ara mantikur sivrceebSic daiwyo wiaRsv- Tad Turme SaSvic xmianobda diliT),
xalxs es sinaTle, es ufro im sevdisa- la da dafiqrde _ raime sxva saTqme- es ucabedi naTqvami (`ver gavige, / saiT
gan gamowveul sityvad gvesaxeba, li xom ar ismis am frazaSi xumrobis gafrinda, / diliT rom SaSvis zari
romelic afiqrebs adamians, _ `unda miRma... magaliTad, es `ai, babu, es aris moswyda / tyis gumbaTidan~) tankasac
ki vinmes Cemi leqsi, Cemi kalami?!~ da tabu~ _ namdvilad ar aris sityvebiT mohgavs, mSvenierebis gancdas gi-
srulebiT ar niSnavs imas, TiTqos av- mxolod Jonglioroba _ Tavisze asa- tovebs da, Tu religiuri kuTxidan
tors marTla fuWi egonos Tavisi kiT umcrosis mimarT ufrosi adami- SevxedavT mTel leqss, kargad davinax-
saqme, bevrisaTvis marTla araserio- anis damrigebluri xma ismis aq _ is avT, rom samyaros RvTis qmnilebad
zuloba da bavSvuri garTobaa poezia toni, romelic dasabuTebas aRar aRiqvams misi avtori, tye `taZrad~
da, saerTod, sulieri faseulobebiT saWiroebs, SegiZlia ironiac amoi- qceula poetis aRqmaSi da `gumbaTic~
cxovreba da isini ar usmenen poets, an kiTxo masSi _ ironia im adamianis mi- hqonia am `taZars~, is patara, mraval-
Tu usmenen, mxolod yalbad, xSir marT, romelic ufrosi asakidan ga- TaTvis iqneb SeumCneveli Citi ki pi-
SemTxvevaSi mxolod snobizmidan ga- momdinare gikrZalavs raimes, magram radad me tyis samrekloze zarebis
momdinareni akeTeben amas, magram sa- akrZalvis mizezs ki ar, Tu ver, gis- mrekav im mnaTed mesaxeba, Tavisi mova-
bednierod, poetebs namdvili mkiTx- abuTebs, anda sulac piriqiT xdeba _ leoba ukve rom Seusrulebia, dilis
velebic hyavT da cxadia, araTu fuWia aq, SesaZloa, im Tanamedrove `Ti- zarebis rekva rom daumTavrebia da
poeturi Semoqmedeba, mis gareSe neijerisa~ Tu bavSvis sityvebs gvas- axla sadRac sxva saqmeze wabrZanebu-
ubralod gadagvardeboda adamiani, meninebs giorgi, romelic uflebadam- la...
adamianur saxes dakargavda igi... cvelis moduri poziciebidan esaubre- sityvam moitana da davubrundebi
rogorc iTqva, leqsi sufizmTan ba asakiT ufross... zemoTqmuls _ mas, riTac daviwye
mimarTebiTac SeiZleba iqnas ganxilu- iaponuri tankasa da haikusaTvis saubari da rac laitmotivad gahyva am
li, Tumca am dros ar unda dagvaviwy- damaxasiaTebeli sxarti, moulodneli werils _ am leqsidanac Cans poetis
des, rom sufisturi filosofiis gad- fraza, romelic ulamazes suraTs qm- Sinagani religiuroba, romelic, iseve,
mosacemad winaswar mofiqrebuli ar nis da Tbilad geRvreba sulSi, grZel rogorc es patara SaSvi, `tyis samrek-
aris igi _ poetma Sexeda WaRs, dainaxa leqsebSic gaielvebs xolme, magaliTi- lodan dilis zarebs rom dagvirekavs
masSi Caxocili peplebi, dainaxa, rom saTvis am striqonebs gavixseneb: `neSo- xolme~, zogjer arcTu advili SesamC-
maT sasaflaos damgvanebula es WaRi Si / nedli yvavilebis / lurji nevia... radgan Sinagani musikis xma is-
da leqsmac daiwyo dabadeba, wamovida TvalebiT / miyurebs es tye _ / gadmo- mis am leqsidan, masSi riTmebic Cndeba,
sityvebi, iumoriTa da sevdiT Sezave- suli zamTris zRapridan. / iebisa da iqmneba STabeWdileba, rom TavisTavad
bul striqonebad gadmoiRvara zizilebis /dgas Jriamuli, / Sors ki ibadebian gariTmuli sityvebi _
qaRaldze... giorgis poezia fuWi nam- maTi da / Camuxlula _ / ucxo maTi- winaswar ki ar aqvs avtors gadaw-
dvilad ar aris _ Tavisi leqsebiT Ta... / me ki vdgavar / da ver gavige, / yvetili, rom saWiroa, riTma moargos
sevdasTan erTad nugeSsac gvris adami- saiT gafrinda, / diliT rom SaSvis aseT leqss _ mgonia, rom spontanurad,
ans, xalissac matebs mas, am alali si- zari moswyda / tyis gumbaTidan~. weris dros grZnobs, saWiro rom aris
tyvebis kiTxvisas piradad me isev re- axali gazafxulis tyis nazi Jriam- aq riTma da mkiTxveli ki imasac xedavs,
ligiurTan mimsgavsebuli ganwyobile- ulis xmebi gwvdeba TiTqos am leqsidan rom riTmebiT wera araa ucxo misTvis,
bac meufleba _ am leqsSi gamoxatu- da im mdumarebasac grZnob, axali vinc, garda prozisa, sparsuli da ar-
li pirdapiroba da ubraloeba aseve im gazafxulis jer kargad gamoufxi- abuli poeziis TargmanebiT aris say-
sulier samyarosTan aris dakavSirebu- zlebel dilas rom sCvevia, grZnob, ovelTaod cnobili...
li, romelic zemoT vaxsene da romel- rom es Cveulebrivi xmauri ar aris, am bevris Tqma SeiZleba giorgi lob-
Si myofi sulebic, rogorc iTqva, ve- leqsSi xom iebi da ziziloebi Jriamu- JaniZis am axali krebulis Sesaxeb, ma-
rasodes ifareben namdvili saxis dam- loben da ara _ Citebi, anu ferebi Si- gram aRar gavagrZeleb sityvas... `sizm-
malav niRabs... es leqsi sxvagvaradac nagan bgerebad iRvrebian poetis sme- ris nangrevebi~ hqvia wigns da Cems
SeiZleba interpretirdes, amis saSu- naSi, Sinagani musika JRers aq da tye ki gamoxmaurebasac im Senobis erT naw-
alebas yovelTvis qmnis namdvili poe- `lurji TvalebiT~ iyureba, mere am ilad warmovadgen, romelic mkiTxvel-
zia... ucnauri orkestris erTi wevrisaken Ta sxva zepir Tu werilobiT gamoxmau-
leqsis dabadebaze, mis impulsebze migidis fiqri da xedav, rom yvela da rebaTagan aigeba da romelTa erT-
daviwye zemoT saubari da axla vityvi, yvelaferi uyvars da axarebs poets, erTi mTavari saTqmeli esec iqneba:
rom giorgi lobJaniZis zogi leqsi araferi rCeba SeumCneveli, radgan gmadlobT, giorgi, am axali leqsebi-
saganze Tvalis erTi SevlebiT, an ram- icis, rom xSirad TiToeul detalSi, sTvis!
denime winadadebad gaelvebuli
fiqriT aris Seqmnili, xan impresion-
istul naxats emsgavseba, xanac _
iaponur tankas da haikus da, rogorc
aseT iaponur poezias Cvevia, mkiTxve-
lis sulSi didxans rCeba igi, amgvaria,
magaliTad, es usaTauro leqsi: `ise
moviwyine, / TiTqos gamoketil saxlSi
/ zafxulidan SemTxveviT / SemorCeni-
li / anTebuli / naTura / gadaiwva...~ an
es: `RmerTo, / iq, TxrilTan, / Cems uki-
dures siRaribeSi, / velosipedi damr-
Ca, / Cadi, / amomitane...~ roca SeZleb,
rom yovelgvari maRalfardovanebis
gareSe ise ubralod mimarTo ufals,
rogorc Svilma mamas, es imas niSnavs,
rom sufTa xar Sinaganad, aq pozis daW-
eras ver gabedav, aq ver iTamaSeb, Sens
TavTan Tu ar xar marTali, marTla
RvTis Svilad Tu ara grZnob Tavs, ise
ver gabedav, ase Sinaurulad elapara-
ko RmerTs...
erTgan aseT sityvebs vkiTxulobT:
`ar mesroloT! / ilia (ara) var~ da am
xuTsityvian leqsSi mTeli tragizmi
iSleba mkiTxvelis winaSe, gvaxsendeba,
rom Cven is qveyana varT, romelSic,
SesaZloa, ilia WavWavaZes esrolon da
romelSic zogjer `ostati unda iyo
da xelmocarulad mogqondes Tavi~,
raTa sasrolad ar gagimeton... radgan
sityva `ara~ frCxilebSia Casmuli, es
sityvebi sxva mniSvnelobasac Rebu-
loben _ ilias gziT svla, ilias baZva
rom miaCnia avtors TavisTvis sanimu-
So magaliTad, es azric ikiTxeba am
striqonSi...
mokle leqsebis werisas araerTgan
TiTqos ubralod xumrobs, erToba
krebulis avtori, aseT ganwyobasa da
Rimils badebs da es ki uSualobiT
avsebs am wigns: magaliTad, xumrobs,
xalisobs poeti, roca aseT leqsebs
gviwers: `rixiT mosuli / gaistumres /
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poeti vaso guleuri

sabavSvo avtori, mTargmneli vaso guleuri 1971 wels gorSi daibada.
daamTavra saqarTvelos teqnikuri universitetis arqiteqturis fakulte-
ti. sxvadasxva wlebSi muSaobda korespondentad gazeTebSi „gori~, „axali
epoqa~, „axali qarTuli gazeTi~, „24 saaTi~, 2003-2005 wlebSi „xalxis gazeTis~
redaqtori iyo.
misi pirveli leqsebi daibeWda Jurnal `dilaSi~. pirveli Targmanebi _
gazeTebSi `rubikoni~ da `mesame gza~. pirveli sabavSvo krebuli `melakudas
maRazia~ `diogenem~ 2007 wels gamosca. sxvadasxva dros vaso guleuris wigne-
bi gamosces `diogenem~, `saunjem~, `Semecnebam~, `elfma~, `palitra L~-ma.
dRemde intensiurad ibeWdeba Targmanebic.
vaso guleuri originaluri nawarmoebebisa da TargmanebisTvis araerTx-
el gamxdara literaturuli jildos mflobeli. 2011 wels gazeT „liter-
aturuli mesxeTis~ mier gamocxadebul Targmanis konkursSi, romelic sax-
alxo dResaswaul „SoTaobas~ mieZRvna, misma Targmanebma meore premia mi-
iRo, xolo imave konkursSi 2012 wels _ pirveli premia. ufro adre, 2007 wels,
igi gaxda literaturul konkurs „weros~ gamarjvebuli (me-2 adgili) leqse- aZaleben mSoblebi Svilebs mZime Teme- aris CemTvis axali ambavi. madloba Rm-
bis ciklisTvis „sabavSvo baRi~. cota xnis win vaso guleurma iakob gogebaS- bze dawerili, arasabavSvo leqsebis erTs, ukve sami welia, kulturis samin-
vilis saxelobis sabavSvo da saymawvilo literaturuli premia miiRo. dazepirebas, anda sulac ugemovno, istros mxardaWeriT, mweralTa saxli
mdare xarisxis leqsis daswavlas sTx- gascems iakob gogebaSvilis saxelobis
_ premias gilocavT. albaT gagax- ana axmatovas, marina cvetaevas, veron- oven. mere bavSvebs aRar uyvarT arc sabavSvo da saymawvilo premias. Tumca
araT jildom. ika tuSnovas, bevr sxvas. karga xans leqsi, aRarc poezia, aRarc wigni. arc es aris sakmarisi _ sabavSvo av-
_ ra Tqma unda, gamixarda liter- mTlianad TargmanebSi viyavi `dakar- _ pirveli leqsebi sad gamoqveyn- torebs, vfiqrob, meti mxardaWera
aturuli premia, gansakuTrebiT imit- guli~. bolo wlebSi vTargmne radiard da? sWirdebaT. bevria damokidebuli ga-

om, rom iakob gogebaSvilis saxelo-
bisaa. magram am sixaruls erTgvarad
afermkrTalebs is, rom dRes bavSvebi
ar aris Cveni qveynis erT-erTi mTavari
prioriteti, bavSvebis did nawils ara
aqvs ganaTlebis miRebis saSualeba, ara
aqvT jansaRi cxovrebis saSualeba, ar
miuwvdebaT xeli dasvenebaze, arian
Zaladobis msxverplni ojaxSic, sko-
laSic, sazogadoebrivi institutebis
mxridanac, rom xSiria mozardebis sui-
cidis SemTxvevebi da kidev uamravi
problema. sabavSvo literatura bavS-
vebisTvis iqmneba, da Tuki bavSvi ar
iqneba qveyanaSi daculi, Tuki bavSvis
uflebebi dairRveva yovel fexis
nabijze, maSin fass kargavs yvelaferi.
swored amitom minda es premiac mi-
vuZRvna yvela bavSvs da visurvo, rom
kiplingis, jeims joisis, ambroz bir-
sis leqsebi. xSirad vTargmni Tamar
`
_ leqsebi pirvelad Jurnal `dila- momcemlebzec, isini didad ar inter-
Si~ daibeWda da Zalian kargi gamoxmaure- esdebian Tanamedrove qarTuli sabavS-
vo mwerlobiT, albaT imitom, rom
moTxovna naklebia, mSoblebs klasiko-
si avtorebis wignebi urCevniaT SeiZ-
inon, Targmnil literaturas aniWeben
upiratesobas, Tumca mainc yinuli
galRva TiTqos, axali avtorebi sasko-
wera lo saxelmZRvaneloebSi Seiyvanes, maTi
nawarmoebebi sul ufro popularulia
norC mkiTxvelSi. me da Cems megobrebs
skolebSi gvixdeba xSirad siaruli,
SvilebisTvis bavSvebs, pedagogebs vxvdebiT. Zalian
mniSvnelovania, roca mwerali skola-
Si, bavSvebTan midis. me samduravi nam-
dvilad araferi maqvs, Cemi 15-ze meti
daviwye wignia gamosuli, magram Tanamedrove
avtors erTgvari piarkampania mainc
sWirdeba.

bavSvebis uflebebi iyos daculi da
yvelani, ganurCevlad profesiisa da
saqmianobisa, vzrunavdeT amaze.
_ didi xania, werT?
_ weriT bavSvobidan vwer _ mego-
brebs, dedas vuZRvnidi xolme. deda-
Cemi axlac inaxavs bavSvobis droindel
misalocebs. Tumca maSin mwerlobaze
metad mxatvrobaze vfiqrobdi. gorSi
samxatvro skolaSic davdiodi. mere
Targmna daviwye. teqnikur univer-
sitetSi arqiteqturis fakultetze
rom vswavlobdi, Zalian kargi ingli-
suris pedagogi gvyavda, qalbatoni
manana qvelaZe, erTxel moitana leqse-
bi da gvTxova, Sinaarsobrivad gad-
mogveqarTulebina. me ki Zalian momin-
da isini leqsadve meTargmna. es iyo
edgar alan pos `eldorado~ da henri
uodsuorT longfelos `wvimiani dRe~.
momdevno leqciaze Targmanebi rom
mivitane, qalbaton mananas Zalian moe-
wona da maSindeli gazeTebis, `ru-
bikonisa~ da `mesame gzis~, redaqcieb-
Si gamgzavna. pirvelad swored iq
daibeWda Cemi Targmanebi. es didi stim-
uli iyo _ mixaroda, rom moewonaT da
Tan, rom damibeWdes. ase daviwye Targ-
mna. studentobisas gatacebuli viyavi
rusuli poeziiT, nikoloz gumiliovs
vTargmnidi, Cemi Targmanebi internet-
sait `gumiliov.ru~-zea ganTavsebuli.
mis garda, vTargmnidi sergei esenins,
kotrikaZesTan erTad. masTan muSaoba
Zalian sainteresoa. erToblivad
vTargmneT qristine lavanti, Jan Jene,
qristian morgenSterni, iozef vainhe-
beri.
_ sabavSvo leqsebis wera rodis-
Ra daiwyeT?
_ sabavSvo leqsebis wera Svilebi-
sTvis daviwye. albaT banaluria, magram
sabavSvo mwerlobaSi xSirad xdeba ase.
xom iciT, yvela mSobels SvilisTvis
raRac gansakuTrebuli unda. mec,
pirveli Svili rom SemeZina, vifiqre
raRac damewera misTvis. marTalia,
Zalian kargi avtorebi gvyavs, vukiTx-
avdi klasikosebsac _ mayvala mrevliS-
vils, givi WiWinaZes, nodar dumbaZes,
magram mec mqonda saTqmeli misTvis.
swored maSin daviwye wera. da roca me-
ore Svilic SemeZina, ukve mivxvdi, rom
Zalian momwonda es procesi. bavSvebT-
an did dros vatarebdi, vsaubrobdiT,
maT samyaros vecnobodi, vakvirdebodi
reaqciebs, ras rogor aRiqvamdnen,
rogori leqsebi moswondaT.
_ da rogori leqsebi moswonT
bavSvebs?
_ bavSvebs moswonT xalisiani,
Tavisufali, laRi leqsebi. Zalian
vbrazdebi xolme, roca vxedav, rogor
~
ba mohyva, rac didi stimuli iyo CemTvis.
Semdeg 90-iani wlebis bolos popularul
internetsait `literatura.ji~-ze va-
qveynebdi leqsebs. isini gansxvavebuli iyo,
tipur sabavSvo poezias amas ver daarqmev-
di da amitom gamoxmaurebac sxvadasxvag-
vari moyveboda xolme.
_ kargi dasawyisi gqondaT, lit-
eraturuli jildoc daimsaxureT.
_ diax, `wero~ iyo pirveli liter-
aturuli konkursi, romelSic vmonaw-
ileobdi 2007 wels da gavimarjve. Tum-
ca maxsovs, ukve finalSi viyavi da san-
am gamarjvebuli gamovlindeboda,
atyda erTi aJiotaJi _ ratom aris
sabavSvo leqsebi finalSio. Tumca
iyvnen sabavSvo mwerlobis dam-
cvelebic. sabolood, meore adgili
momakuTvnes. es iyo Cemi pirveli lit-
eraturuli premia. mas Semdeg 12 weli
gavida.
_ literaturul konkursebs sa-
bavSvo literaturis nominacia rom
ar aqvT, es albaT ara mxolod konkur-
sis organizatorebis damokidebule-
bas asaxavs, aramed zogadad, imis
maCvenebelic aris, rom bazarze nak-
lebi interesia.
_ zogadad, sabavSvo mwerlobas
araseriozulad rom uyureben, es ar
_ didi sareklamo kampania hqon-
da ,`gamomcemloba palitra L~-is
Zalian popularul serias `Tovlis
gunda~. am proeqtSi Tqvenc monawile-
obdiT.
_ ramdenime wigni davwere am
proeqtisTvis. `Tovlis gunda~ mar-
Tlac Zalian warmatebuli seriaa, sx-
vadasxva avtorma SevqmeniT am person-
aJze sxvadasxva ambebi da Zalian popu-
laruli gaxda bavSvebSi. rogorc ori-
sami wlis win gamocemuli wignebi, ise
gundas axali Tavgadasavlebi axla ax-
lidan ibeWdeba.
_ Tqven erT romelime gamomcem-
lobasTan asocirebuli avtori ar
xarT, yvelasTan TanamSromlobT. ma-
galiTad, pirveli wignebi `diogenem~
gamosca.
_ pirveli wignebi `melakudas maRa-
zia~ da `Citis motanili ambebi~ 2007-
2008 wlebSi, aseve lela cucqiriZesTan
TanaavtorobiT Seqmnili krebuli `naZ-
vis xis mosarTavi leqsebi~ 2012-Si `di-
ogenem~ gamosca. SeiZleba iTqvas, lit-
eraturul konkurs `weroze~ gamarjve-
bis mere erTgvari mwvane aminTes gamom-
cemlobebma da mec aqtiurad viTanam-
Sromle `diogenesTan~, `saunjesTan~
`sezanTan~, `SemecnebasTan~, `elfTan~,
`palitra L~-Tan. dRemde asea, vinc dain-
teresdeba, yvelasTan mzad var, vimuSao.
2011 wels `elfis~ gamomcemlobisa
17 - 30 ianvari 2020
da sazogadoebrivi radios mier gamocxadebul saSo-
bao zRapris konkursze Cemma piesam `dabrunebuli
bgerebi~ pirveli adgili daikava. radiodadgma 2012-
is 7 ianvars gadaica sazogadoebrivi radios eTerSi,
xolo wlis bolos wignadac gamoica. mas Semdeg `elf-
Tan~ kidev araerTxel viTanamSromle, maT Cemi `mx-
iaruli leqsebi~ da `Cxubi samzareuloSi~ gamosces.
_ axal wignze xom ar muSaobT?
_ ukve ramdenime wignis masala damigrovda. `pal-
itra L~ amzadebs Cemi axali leqsebis krebuls. velo-
debi, rom wigni gazafxulamde gamova. krebuls erT-
erTi leqsis saxeli, `vin upasuxebs iraklis~, davar-
qvi.
_ mgoni, es is leqsia, romlis gamoc erTxel
socialur qselebSi gagakritikes. mainc ratom aR-
SfoTdnen?
_ diax, is leqsia. ar vici, ra mizani hqonda aseT
lanZRvas. erT-erT axal saskolo saxelmZRvanelo-
Si Seitanes, Cems ramdenime sxva leqsTan erTad da
amas mohyva yvelaferi. es aris leqsi patara biWunaze,
romelic, rogorc yvela bavSvi, bevr iseT SekiTxvas
svams, ucnaur SekiTxvas, ufrosebs rom ar gauCnde-
baT. magaliTad, leqsSi aseTi strofia: `Ramura RamiT
xom frinavs?/dRisiT xom frinavs beRura,/beRuras
ratom veZaxiT,/ratom ar hqvia dRemura?..~ erTgvari
sityvebis TamaSi, bavSvuri logikaa. arada am uwyi-
narma leqsma didi xmauri gamoiwvia, daundoblad
gamlanZRes. gaognebuli vkiTxulobdi komentarebs,
gamoxmaurebas, ver mivxvdi, ra undodaT, Zalian vin-
erviule. kidev kargi, rom iyo sapirispiro gamox-
maurebac. bevri damcveli gamouCnda Cems leqss da
es Zalian manugeSebda maSin.
_ saufroso leqsebs ratom ar werT?
_ saufroso leqsebs ar vwer, radgan Cemi sayvare-
li patara princiviT mec vfiqrob, rom didebi ucn-
auri xalxia. ar minda, im didebs davemsgavso, visac
ricxvebis meti araferi adardebT. Cemi sayvareli
mwerali, ianuS korCaki ambobda, ufrosebs Tu rame
ar moewonaT, `ver gaigeben da sicils damayrian, ma-
gram maT xom verafers dauSli?~ amitom mec bavSvebT-
an urTierToba mirCevnia.
_ mwerlisTvis mTavari Semfaseblebi albaT
swored bavSvebi arian. mweralTa saxlis araCveu-
lebriv proeqtze miambeT, bavSvebTan Sexvedrebze,
romelsac araerTi welia uZRvebiT.
_ rogorc iciT, mweralTa saxlis am proeqtSi
Tavidan mwerali maka miqelaZe monawileobda, Sem-
deg gamomcemlobebi maspinZlobdnen bavSvebs. ukve
meeqvse welia, me vuZRvebi Sexvedrebs da yovel Sa-
baTs didi sixaruliT mivdivar mweralTa saxlSi,
bavSvebTan Sesaxvedrad. literaturaze, konkretul
wignebze vsaubrobT, ama Tu im avtors, Temas, teqsts
ganvixilavT, vkiTxulobT fragmentebs nawarmoe-
bidan. Tu wignis safuZvelze mxatvruli an animaci-
uri filmia gadaRebuli, mis fragmentebsac vnaxu-
lobT. garda amisa, Cem mier sagangebod momzadebul
prezentacias vmarTavT, slaidSouTi, bavSvebisTvis
vizualsac xom didi mniSvneloba aqvs. bavSvebi uam-
rav SekiTxvas svamen, Zalian Tavisuflad grZnoben
aq Tavs, da roca midian saocrad gulis amaCuyebel
baraTebs, an Canaxatebs mitoveben, xSirad mec mxata-
ven. bavSvebisgan wamosuli es ulevi siTbo da siyvaru-
li yvela premias Tu Seqebas gadawonis.
_ bavSvobaSi Tqvenc gyavdaT albaT sayvareli
avtorebi.
_ rogorc mogaxseneT, sami avtori, mayvala mrev-
liSvili, givi WiWinaZe, nodar dumbaZe miyvarda
Zalian, axlac siamovnebiT vubrundebi xolme maT
leqsebs da vukiTxav bavSvebs, Seudarebelia aseve
arCil sulakauris `salamuras Tavgadasavali~ da
`jadosnuri kaba~da otia ioselianis `daCis zRapre-
bi~. ukve vaxsene antuan de sent-egziuperi da ianuS
korCaki. Tanamedrove sabaSvo mwerlobac aranakleb
sainteresoa.
_ Targmanebze intensiurad muSaobT?
_ Targmnas vagrZeleb, diax. gamomcemlobebisgan
SekveTebi maqvs. vTargmni martoc da megobrebTan
erTadac. ZiriTadad, poeziaze vmuSaob. Tumca pro-
zasac vTargmni. magaliTad, axlaxan davasrule
muSaoba sabavSvo mweral beatris poteris zRapreb-
ze, romelsac `elfi~ gamoscems, igive gamomcemlo-
ba dabeWdavs Tanamedrove rusi avtoris saymawvilo
romans `maias kalendari~, romlis Targmnac axlax-
an davasrule. `artanuji~ male dabeWdavs ambroz
birsis `eSmakis leqsikons~, es ufrosebisTvis dawer-
ili wignia, prozauli nawili Tamar kotrikaZem,
leqsebi ki me vTargmne.
_ fotoebSic Tqveni Tema bavSvebia?
_ fotografia Cemi adrindeli gatacebaa, mamam
Semayvara. Cemi profesiac, arqiteqtura, ZiriTadad,
mainc Tvalia, xedvaa, aRqmaa. es mexmareba fotoebis
gadaRebaSi. momwons, roca Cems danaxuls da aRqmul
movlenebs, sagnebs, saxeebs, sxvasac ise vaCveneb,
rogorc TviTon vxedav. fotografiaSi saTqmels
vizualurad gadmoscem, literaturaSi _ sityve-
biT; asea.
esaubra Tamar Juruli
literaturuli gazeTi Targmani 15
raien van uinqli Tanamedrove amerikeli poeti, mTargmneli, podkasteri, performeri da kritiko-
sia, romelic cxovrobs edinburgSi. gamocemuli aqvs ori poeturi krebuli: „xval Cven unda vicx-
ovroT aq~ (Salt, 2010) da „mSvenieri sibnele~ (Penned in the Margins, 2015). misi teqstebi Sesulia 2010 wlis
„Tanamedrove poetTa oqsfordis anTologiaSi~. miRebuli aqvs araerTi literaturuli premia. avto-
ria poeturi performansis: „wiTeli, rogorc Cveni saZinebeli~, romelic „gardianma~ Seafasa, rogorc
„intimuri da STambeWdavi~. misi teqstebi Targmnilia qarTul, frangul, serbiul, germanul, arabul,
bulgarul, latviur, rusul, Turqul da sxva enebze. `nodar dumbaZis gamomcemloba~ ramdenime dRe-
Si gamoscems mis poetur krebuls „xval Cven unda vicxovroT aq~.
raien van uinqli
Tanac, kravTa mogebis droa
Tu ginda, iyos yvavilebi yviTeli feris.
yvelaferi rigzea
irgvliv: eklesiasTan bavSvebi
dedebs kalTebze eqaCebian,
kravebiTaa mindori savse,
ZuZus woven dedis jiqnidan,
pirvel nabijebs frTxilad dgamen rbil miwaze,
fexiT rom vTelav. da Tuki Tvali aexilaT,
albaT xedaven
Sav figuras, WiSkridan rom gamovida da
wyarosken miemarTeba.
da instinqti Tu ar RalatobT,
albaT TrTian, roca dedebi
ZuZus arTmeven.
cxvrebi Cqaroben, rom gaaridon batknebi
safrTxes, gadaefaron orive mxridan,
sirbilisas
basri CliqebiT Telaven nakels,
yviTel kbilebs gamoaCenen
minda, waviRo abazanaSi,
da nawyvet-nawyvet mwared bRavian mamis Zveli, amovfxiko frCxilebiT da
momakvdavi kraisleriviT, bRavian _ TiTqos
mavTulis RrubliT,
Sotlandiur duduks urtyamen rkinis firfitas, misi feri wyals gavatano.
anda _ TiTqos RmerTi moTqvamdes:
Sors xelebi sayvareli
ukve gareT viyavi,
kravebisagan, Cemi fafuki kravebisagan. roca yvelaferi Camoingra*
magram dedebiT
garSemortymuli batknebi uceb, dilaobiT mkvdariviT aRar viRviZeb xolme
raRac jadoTi ukan rCebian, da embrioniviT mokuntuls axali dRis
ar meSinia, metroSi aRar davborialob,
borZik-borZik miabijeben. aRarc quCis Crdilebi mzafravs.
cxovreba ukeTesia betisa da imis gareSe,
marjvena xeliT WiSkars vaReb,
rac masTan iyo dakavSirebuli.
mere ki vxurav. Robis iqiT
magram am bolo dros meCveneba, rom
grZel rigs vxedav Savi Tvalebis.
quCis sinaTleebi ganuwyvetliv cimcimeben,
rogorc SuqniSnebi _ gamTeniisas.
da kravebi, sazRvrisa rom araferi ar gaegebaT,
ar vici, SeiZleba bevrs vmuSaob da
pouloben TavianT dedebs,
amis bralia, rom mZimed var da naisTaunSi
aravis araferi smenia mtverze. ukve mawuxebs,
isev ZuZuebs ubrundebian, sitkbos,
rom niu iorkidan wamovedi da SeiZleba,
romelsac xarbad iwoven. minda, pensilvania Zalian Sors sulac araa.
talaxSi Cavyo xelebi, SeiZleba, arsebobs adgili, sadac pirdapir
xidan mowyvet atmebs da forToxlebs.
minda jinsebiT da sviteriT Seviwovo ocnebidan gamofxizlebuls mefiqreba _
mTeli es WuWyi, isev cxvrad viqce. sulad xom ar gadaviqeci?
aRdgoma modis. wuxel barSi yvela isev foqs niuss uyurebda.
zedac aravin Semomxeda. mindoda, meTqva:
me ara var Cems samSobloSi da garSemo aCrdilebi kargi iyo, ase rom moxda. arasodes miyvarda
borialoben. es gayinuli Senobebi _ dilaobiT, roca
dedaCemis rZe mowiTalo-moyavisfroa. grZel sawvimarSi trotuarze mivseirnobdi,
maTi Crdilebi asfaltze
yinulis filebiviT gawoliliyvnen.
laqa da erTxel, beti iq davinaxe,
sadac sul ar velodebodi _
mosaRamovda. marTas mTeli dRe lodinSi taqsi gamomwvevad gaaCera
gadis. sarecxs Tokidan Camoxsna unda. im dedamotynul me-15 quCaze. vifiqre,
RmerTo, aq ratom unda vyofiliyavi.
bordosferi viskis boTli TiTqmis dacala, im diliT cota gvian wavedi samsaxurSi.
Tan moqufrul cas gahyurebs. im areulobaSi telefoni sadRac Sevtene,
zed portis administraciasTan avariaSi
„qariSxali gviaxlovdeba~, _ ambobs TavisTvis. movyevi. da es mxolod mcireodeni
karebTan ZaRli kuds aqicinebs. nugeSia, rom Cemi foto kedlebze,
daRupulTa gverdiT ar kidia.
ase rom yofiliyo, betis albaT
Semodgoma ZalaSi Sedis. sul male,
sakmarisi fuli gauCndeboda
ukve saSrobSi Seyris Cvens tansacmels
9/11-is dazRvevisagan. momwons, roca
warmovidgen, rom im saSinel ormosken
da morCenili eqneba saqme.
midis, vxedav mzis sxivs mis saxeze da
gareT magzavnis. cariel haers gemos vusinjav, axal mamakacs _ mis mklavze. albaT
fiqrobs, rom Cemi Zvlebi
ZaRli garbis xeebisaken. saimedod daimarxa, rom warsuli
gaxevebulan windebi da maisurebi. aris warsuli da aris warsuli
da saxlSi misvlas aRar vapireb.
maT gamxmari comiviT vkecav.
saxlSi irTveba televizori.
*
leqsi exeba 2001 wlis 11 seqtembris teroristul aqts niu-

iorkSi _ mTargmnelis SeniSvna.
marTas qaTqaTa perangs vferTxav da
Ria bordosfer laqas vpoulob.
16 Targmani literaturuli gazeTi 17 - 30 ianvari 2020

Cveni bedi, rom droze SevCerdiT,

rom mogveca SesaZlebloba sxvebTan Sexvedris
ukeTesad mowyobil binebSi
ufro gaxsnili sivrceebiT.

wiTeli oTaxi

roca oTaxi mWaxe wiTelSi

gadavRebeT, ZuZus qveS
blanti saRebavi mieweba.

gvian Rame vigrZeniT, rom saRebavi gamSraliyo.

TeZoze wiTeli laqa hqonda _

es imis gamo, mwife xiliviT rom gavsinje

da saRebavis mZafri suni arad Cavagde.
meore diliT mazidebda,
Tmebze zeTi mqonda Semxmari.

zed buxris Tavze, gamSral, mkveTri feris

kedelze surda Tavisi suraTebis Camokideba _
iaponuri Ria baraTebis faqizi rigis.

me ki mindoda uqudod qarSi xetiali.

arasodes aRar minaxavs,
Tu romeli baraTebi amoarCia.

mwvane oTaxi
raien van uinqli
mkvdrebis gatana saaxalwlo naZvis xe
es iyo da es. saxli sruliad dacarielda. mTeli oTxi Tve
wagebuli armia Cvens dagebul gzebs abinZurebs. aRar bJutavda cecxli karavSi, uecrad gaqra kuTxeSi edo,
mkvdrebze davdivarT, qalaqs vaRwevT, balaxis suni da gviani Rameebi, rodesac yvela da sabolood roca movxible,
saxlSi vbrundebiT. sakuTari instrumentiT erTad visxediT. mxolod totebi SemorCenoda.
SuadRisas ruxi enoti da brma ZaRli Semogveyreba. zogierTebi isev vagrZelebT urTierTobas, wiwvebi SiSvel
svlas vanelebT, magram ar viciT, is sad wavida, fexisgulebSi gverWoboda,
danaSaulis kvali sanam ar waiSleba. niu iorkamde Tu CaaRwia, mere loginSi iyreboda.
gvamebs wvima da matli Semusravs. magram zogjer erTmaneTze ase vzrunavdiT.
SigneulSic aRwevs simyrale. Cvenc gveqneba miatova Tu ara neSvilSi samsaxuri, an tunasaviT, dilaobiT, cariel kedlebze
saflavis qvebi. konservis qilebi da boTlebi Tu amjobina. farda CrdilebTan TamaSobda,
xbos xorcs saWmelad ver vekarebiT, didi droa sadac fiqrobda
suni gvawuxebs. ukve gasuli. musika iyo iseTi rbili, xaverdovani, girlandebis da
mezobeli qalaqis merias ukavSirdeba. rogorc balaxi Cvens mxareSi. magram xSirad, gobelenis Camokidebas.
jinsebSi Cacmuli moviCqari yvelaze ufro is menatreba, xe ki manamde
stafilosferi eqskavatoriT roca megi Cems saxels yviris _ sruliad gaxma,
da satvirTo manqaniT. meZaxis, rom simindi ukve moxarSulia. qiris vada amoiwura,
mTeli zafxuli gzebi dayril xaliCa wiwvebiT daifara.
*
cxedrebs iTvlian, blugrasi _ musikaluri mimdinareoba, romlis winamorbedad iTv-
leba qanTri da folki; warmoiSva me-20 saukunis 40-ian wlebSi amerika-
rogorc sisxliT gadaRebil wiTel
bamperebs me-11 gzidan
Si, apalaCis regionSi _ mTargmnelis SeniSvna. TeTri oTaxi
vidre volnatamde. yoveli gvami
Cemma mSoblebma
xocva-Jletis scenidan gamaqvs,
daumTavrebeli oTaxebi yvelaferi gadmoalages:
rogorc usulo dekoracia,
jariskacebis Trevisas vcdilob, yviTeli oTaxi komiqsebi karadebidan
ar visunTqo, sanam
LP* da kasetebi,
sxeulebs TxrilSi movisvri, ori weli
sadac vyridiT Cais paketebs, sawolis gverdiT afiSebi, plakatebi,
WuWyian saxvevebsa da manqanis daSlil nawilebs. carieli naTura ekida. rbilydiani wignebi.

es iyo tom ueitsi, kremisfer xaliCas laqebi moaSores.

blugrasi * Tuki tom ueitsi Cemi pirveli Ramis mowme leibi
SeiZleboda naTura yofiliyo.
es xorcisferi dRec gailia. vsvam. megi xarSavs axla “xsnis armiis~ sakuTrebaa.
Cveni yanis oqrosfer siminds. gakreWil gazons versad vipove saWiro zomis bra
saxls veRar vcnob.
Sevavleb mzeras, kargad vici, gaTibuli balaxi da amitom zafxulobiT vuyurebdi
naTuris irgvliv mofarfate farvanebs
sakvebia Cveni baRisTvis da ivnisisken oTaxSi kedelze miyudebuli
mkrTal Calisfrad gadaiqceva. tuCebi TandaTan erTaderTi sarkeRa darCa.
frTebi rogor etrusebodaT.
miwiTldeba. mSvidi var, rogorc banakSi cecxli. es oTaxi _ daxrili WeriT _
sxvenSi iyo da iq zogjer aRarc Wikartis naxvretebi,
maxsovs, yurmils me vuWerdi, roca ukravda. aRarc mrgvali anabeWdebi yavis Wiqebis.
mas Semdeg didi xani gavida: iseTi siCume, sicive da
aTi weli, an _ cota meti. simyudrove Caibudebda, Jurnalebis magidaze
erTaderTxel, mTeli saxli TiTqos damunjda. rom karavSi megona Tavi. halogenis naTuris Suqi.
yvela Cvengani _ tuna deivic _
xmas ar viRebdiT. saoperacio TeTreuliviT
sunTqvaSekruli mivyvebodi yavisferi oTaxi gaqaTqaTebuli zewrebi.
misi simebis energetikas:
iyo kidev erTi oTaxi, „TiTqmis movrCiT, _
Red Dirt Girl maRal notze mowyvita,
sadac me zemodan moveqeci, amboben isini, _
is mTvrali iyo, magram mainc damajereblad
misi banjo ise TrTroda,
moZraobdnen misi xelebi, sul cotac da
rogorc kani _ moferebisas.
oTaxi ukve mzad iqneba.~
erTi noti _ tyavis maTraxi gvirilebiT savse damisvelda bambasaviT gamSrali piri,
mindorSi, meore ki _ Semodgomis nazi foToli. Cven gverdiT, iatakze gorebad ewyo *
LP (Long Playing) _ vinilis firfitaze Cawerili musikaluri al-
erovnuli radios TanamSromelma, niu iorkidan gayviTlebuli Zveli wignebi bomi _ mTargmnelis SeniSvna.
rom usmenda, uTxra: CrdiloeTisken aiRe gezi, natifi SriftiT.
fuls blomad mogcemT, oRond Camodi. biblioTekis sacavs hgavda es oTaxi. Targmna nene giorgaZem

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